“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Space.

(“Space?”)

Fifth space.

(“You said, then, that the fifth dimension is space?”)

Your idea of space travel is indeed as ridiculous as trying to build a huge, tall structure many stories high, and considering this building as a space vehicle. Buildings may be used for many things; as space vehicles you will admit they would be hilarious. [...]

[...] In it Seth compared our idea of space travel to traveling from the basement of a building to the top floor; and for a building he used as an example the ancient Tower of Babel.)

Through Ruburt’s subconscious I picked up the old legend of the Tower of Babel, and yet this is precisely what you are attempting now in space travel. [...]

Now, although your space vehicles are not as apparently connected to the ground, they are indeed connected to the ground of your camouflage patterns in a most meaningful manner, since they are themselves camouflage. [...]

“I come here as though I appeared through a hole in space and time. There are walks in space and time through which you can travel, and in dreams you have been where I am. [...]

[...] The individual is basically free of space and time. [...]

I was so used to thinking of myself as a physical creature, bound to space and time, that I almost refused to accept the evidence of my own experience. [...]

[...] Through me, Seth has produced a continuing manuscript that runs well over five thousand double-spaced typewritten pages, in not quite five years’ time. [...]

You know that you cannot perceive with the outer senses the pulsations of energy as they form this chair; because you cannot perceive these pulsations, the chair appears durable, a part of your time and space, and continuous in time and space.

[...] In our analogy, the painting while framed within a given space, expanded. [...]

[...] The elements of the painting would expand in the same way that I have told you the universe expands, in a way that has nothing to do with space but of value fulfillment, which has its own kind of depth and perspective, and which exists not only behind but within the construction of matter.

There are multitudinous physical constructions in the space between these two chairs, of which you are not aware, because you cannot perceive the perspective in which they occur.

Space travel, in your terms, will develop in a seemingly extravagant and startling fashion, only to be dumped as such when your scientists discover that space as you know it is a distortion, and that journeying from one so-called galaxy to another is done by divesting the physical body from camouflage. The vehicle of so-called space travel is mental and psychic mobility, in terms of psychic transformation of energy, enabling spontaneous and instantaneous mobility through the spacious present.

If scientists think that the inner world is a murky maze of intimate chaos, let them see what happens when they attempt space travel; that is, journeys through a camouflage nonexistent space to begin with, with a camouflage vehicle. [...]

[...] Consciousness takes up no space nor is it enclosed by time, as you know time. [...]

By then you will have discovered that your present theory of the expanding universe is in error; and this error will, nevertheless, affect your calculations as to the exact location in your space, of the intelligence that is contacted. [...]

[...] Your solid earth is not a solid to inhabitants of other planes that would seem to take up the same space as your earth. The idea of taking up the same space is erroneous to begin with, but I don’t see how we can avoid such terms and still make any sense to you.

There are several of these culture establishment existences or planes, coexisting in the same space as your earth; but when I say coexisting in the same space I am speaking on your terms and simplifying to an alarming degree.

Your particular camouflage pattern is given to solids, among other things, and the idea of solids gives its alternative of something not solid or unfilled, which you call space. [...]

These other planes that you would say exist simultaneously with you in the same space as your earth, are unperceived of course by you. [...]

[...] There is an individual here and an individual here on the blue couch with space between. [...] However, the space between our two friends is not vacant. [...]

[...] Now as you know, you do not perceive the atoms and molecules that swim about the room nor the atoms and molecules that fill this space between our friends, nor the forces—the field forces—that exist. [...]

[...] There is an individual there (pointing), and an individual there, with space between. [...]

However, the space between our two friends is not vacant. [...]

Now: As you know, you do not perceive the atoms and molecules that swim about the room, nor those that fill the space between our two friends, nor the forces — the field forces — that exist. [...]

[...] It is true that you emerge into space and time at a certain point in your perception. [...]

[...] You are at a meeting ground in that respect, where individuals from many probable realities mix and merge, agreeing momentarily to accept certain portions of the same space-time environment.

Consciousness does not simply choose to be born at a certain place in space and time, but it also endows its physical organism ahead of time with certain inner triggers so that it will respond to those conditions in highly individualistic ways.

[...] Such dates are obviously not just points in time, pinpointed in space. [...]

The system exists basically, again, not in space, nor does it expand in space as you conceive it. It exists and expands in terms of depths that take up no space, in terms of value fulfillment.

[...] After a few minutes of this I abruptly became aware that my lower legs felt as though they were off the edge of the bed, suspended in space. [...]

It is obvious that you impress a room with your characteristics as you furnish it, but you also mark (long pause) what seems to be empty space in the same fashion — that is, you turn empty space into the living matter of your body without ever realizing that you do so. [...]

In some instances the physical body stays in its original location, and the personality-essence moves through camouflage space and time. That is, the personality-essence, realizing that space and time are merely camouflages, is therefore free to behave accordingly.

The reason that these things are done so infrequently is because the personality-essence finds itself so unable to give up belief in camouflage time and space. [...]

[...] It is not impossible, however, at all to travel seemingly through time as well as space. [...]

Since both space and time are camouflages, to speak of traveling through them is basically meaningless. [...]

However, they were not by any means identical, either in space, time, or physical bulk. Quite literally the cat’s bug was larger and heavier in bulk, existed longer in his—that is the cat’s—time, and also took up more space.

[...] Also during this period, Jane experienced an odd sensation within the black field of inner vision: as though she was moving quickly through space and changing perspective.

[...] These bug constructions, by various means which we shall discuss, tallied in your camouflage space to an amazingly approximate degree.

Your bug, Joseph, differed in actual physical construction also from Ruburt’s. It was better detailed and more precisely drawn, smaller in size from either Ruburt’s or the cat’s, existed less in your camouflage time, and took up a measurably less amount of your space.

But time and space are one to us.
The infinite skull
Opens skies all curled within,
Miniature world on world.

Our dreams therefore occupy the same space as is occupied by the mind—no space at all. [...]

[...] The true reality of distance as you know it is dependent upon the intensity of emotion, and has nothing to do with your idea of space. [...]

Emotions take up a certain amount of what we call psychic space within the personality’s awareness. [...]

[...] He travels through space in moments. [...]

[...] so bright!
For we are the spark that flutters in space,
Consuming an eternity of a moment’s grace,
For today is tomorrow, and present, past.
Nothing exists, and everything will last.

[...] To put this as simply as possible, it is not so much that they move through space, as that they use space to move through. [...]

Of course mental or psychic journeys into other dimensions and systems are possible, and when I speak of dimensions here I am not referring to space systems. Mentally you can cut through space, physically you cannot. [...]

[...] First of all, any effective large-scale space travel will be mental travel.

I use the term space travel loosely. [...]

(A note: as of now my original single and/or double spaced typewritten record of the Seth material is 4,636 pages long. [...]

[...] But the four-fronted counterpart self’s own sense of continuity is not broken up; it persists outside of space and time, while its parts — the individual selves, or counterparts — live in space and time….”⁶

[...] A portion of you has lived many lives upon this planet, but the “you” that you know is freshly here, and will never again encounter space and time in precisely the same way. [...]

[...] There are reasons, then, why people are born in any given century, and why they meet in space and time. [...]

(Now for two concluding paragraphs of commentary and reference: Jane’s statement that the four-fronted counterpart self persists outside of space and time implies a contradiction, of course — but this situation is one that we, as physical creatures, will in some manner always have to contend with when we encounter certain of Jane’s and Seth’s concepts [including that of the four-fronted counterpart self]. [...]