“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

The units are just beneath the range of physical matter. None are identical. However, there is a structure to them. This structure is beyond the range of electromagnetic qualities as your scientists think of them. Consciousnesses actually produces these emanations, and they are the basis for any kind of perception, both sensory in usual terms and extrasensory.

These emanations can also appear as sounds, and you will be able to translate them into sounds long before your scientists discover their basic meaning. One of the reasons why they have not been discovered is precisely because they are so cleverly camouflaged within all structures. Being just beyond the range of matter, having a structure but a nonphysical one, and being of a pulsating nature, they can expand or contract. They can completely envelop, for example, a small cell, or retreat to the nucleus within. They combine qualities of a unit and a field, in other words.

There is another reason why they remain a secret from Western scientists. Intensity governs not only their activity and size, but the relative strength of their magnetic nature. They will draw other such units to them, for example, according to the intensity of the emotional tone of the particular consciousness at any given “point.”

These units then obviously change constantly. If we must speak in terms of size, then they change in size constantly as they expand and contract. Theoretically there is no limit, you see, to their rate of contraction or expansion. They are also absorbent. They do give off thermal qualities, and these are the only hint that your scientists have received of them so far.

To some extent (underlined) — a qualified statement, now — the scientists have become somewhat contemptuous of all who do not understand their language: the non-elite. They resent having to get money from the government, from men who are not scientists, and they build up a false sense of comparative omnipotence in response — and that makes them less careful than they should be. [...]

“The idea is that the scientists’ system of beliefs is bound to result in some destructive action; that is, the implied attitudes of today’s scientists lead them to be less careful of life than they should be, and separate them from nature in a way that leads to some contempt on their parts of individual living things. [...]

[...] The same applies to the scientists, who now feel that the cultural climate is turning against them, that people no longer trust them, so that they fear they will be pulled from high estate.

None of them want any disaster, and yet some of them think it would serve the people right — for then the people might realize that politicians do not understand science, and that the scientists should after all be put in control: “We must have enough money, or who knows what can go wrong?”

Gramacy was a psychologist and a magician, and he came to our house because he was a scientist looking for some real magic. [...] Both his eyes and his hands were really too expressive for a scientist’s, and he tried to be a scientist even when he was being a magician — perhaps then most of all.

[...] We hadn’t known that Gramacy was a scientist until he told us that night, and it was as a magician rather than as a scientist that Seth addressed him, telling him to trust his dramatic and imaginative flair.

[...] The scientists have their own vocabulary, which is used to reinforce the exclusive nature of science. Now I am speaking of the body of science in general terms here, for there is in a way a body of science that exists as a result of each individual scientist’s participation. A given scientist may act quite differently in his family life and as a scientist. [...]

(Long pause.) The scientists claim a great idealism. [...]

[...] As a group the scientists rigorously oppose the existence of telepathy or clairvoyance, or of any philosophy that brings these into focus. [...]

(Pause.) The scientists have long stood on the side of “intelligence and reason,” logical thought, and objectivity. [...]

[...] [The two scientists haven’t met personally, by the way.]

[...] Dr. Guy left us a book written by a scientist about a famous medium, and I’ll be mailing it back to him as soon as we’ve read it.)

[...] The electrons within the instrument itself have a relationship with the electron that scientists may be trying to “isolate” for examination.

Quite apart from that, however, there is what we will call for now the collective unconscious of all of the electrons that compose the entire seemingly separate event of the scientists observing the electron. [...]

Your scientists spend many long years in training. [...] There are some individuals embarked upon a study of dreams, working in the “dream laboratories”; but here again there is prejudiced perception, with scientists on the outside studying the dreams of others, or emphasizing the physical changes that occur in the dream state. [...]

To some extent, a natural talent is a prerequisite for such a true dream-art scientist. [...]

[...] This will be elaborated upon later in the book.³ Our dream-art scientist learns to recognize such points of correlation.

[...] All of this, however, is but a beginning for our dream-art scientist, for he or she then begins to recognize the fact of involvement with many different levels and kinds of reality and activity. [...]

The scientist’s (Truzzi’s) letter had some good results, in crystallizing your attitudes in Ruburt’s poetry, and in passages for his book. [...]

Remember to keep open-minded about individual scientists, also. [...]

[...] Here scientists, many being science-fiction buffs, can safely channel their own intellectual questioning into a safe form. [...]

(9:36.) This is the reason why some scientists who either write or read science fiction, are the most incensed over any suggestion that some such ideas represent a quite valid alternate conception of reality. [...]

[...] You are, or scientists are, working within what may be described as one small cube within literally millions of somewhat similar though different cubes, the cubes all representing various camouflage universes.

[...] Ruburt recognizes it now, and he is no scientist or psychologist. [...]

[...] However, for reasons that I will not go into, a hitch will develop of which your scientists will not be aware, at least in your terms. [...]

Space travel, in your terms, will develop in a seemingly extravagant and startling fashion, only to be dumped as such when your scientists discover that space as you know it is a distortion, and that journeying from one so-called galaxy to another is done by divesting the physical body from camouflage. [...]

[...] Your scientists will discover that their tools are no longer adequate. Because man has such a sense of curiosity the scientists on your plane will be forced finally to use their own inner senses. [...]

[...] More galaxies will seemingly be discovered, more mysterious radio stars will be perceived, until the scientists realize that something is desperately wrong. Instruments designed to measure the vibrations with which scientists are familiar will be designed and redesigned. [...]

[...] It is well known to your scientists, or it should be, that you bring many things about without knowing how you do so.

Your scientists are correct in supposing that the universe is composed of the same elements that can be found on your plane. [...]

Suppose a scientist found a first orange, and used every instrument available to examine it, but refused to feel it, taste it, smell it, or otherwise to become personally involved with it for fear of losing scientific objectivity.

[...] Any true scientist will ultimately have to learn to enter that realm of reality. [...]

[...] I have mentioned the dream-art scientist and the [true] mental physicist (in sessions 700–1). [...]

[...] So far, Seth hasn’t designated or titled a Part 1.⁶ Jane had received more, but she was vague on it: “… something to do with how each of us could be our own dream-art scientist, mental physicist, and complete physician. [...]

[...] The true scientist is not afraid of identifying with the reality he chooses to study. [...] There are many unofficial scientists, true ones in that regard, unknown in this age. [...]

[...] Some of these civilizations did not need spaceships.⁴ Instead, highly trained men combining the abilities of dream-art scientists and mental physicists cooperated in journeys not only through time but through space. [...]

[...] We had briefly discussed Einstein’s work and some allied subjects before tonight’s session, but I hadn’t asked her to give material on physics through Seth.⁵ In her own way, Jane is quite interested in the field, however, and has done a little work in it with scientists. [...]

(Using conventional reincarnational terms, I half jokingly asked Jane if she’d ever been a dream-art scientist, say, or a mental physicist. [...]

A scientist examining nature studies its exterior, observing the outsideness of nature. [...] The scientist does not usually look for nature’s heart. [...]

[...] Is the disaster the result of God’s vengeance?” A scientist might ask instead: “With better technology and information, could we somehow have predicted the disaster, and saved many lives?” He might try to dissociate himself from emotion, and to see the disaster simply as the result of a nonpersonal nature that did not know or care what lay in its path.

[...] The Christian scientist is caught in between. [...]

[...] (Pause.) The structure is beyond the range of elecromagnetic qualities as your scientists think of them.

These emanations can also appear as sounds, and you will be able to translate them into sounds long before your scientists discover their basic meaning. [...]

This is another reason why they remain a secret from Western scientists. [...]

[...] They do give off thermal qualities, and these are the only hint that your scientists have received of them so far.

[...] Your scientists will find that their tools are no longer adequate. Because man has such a sense of curiosity, scientists will be forced finally to use the inner senses. [...]

More galaxies will seemingly be discovered, more mysterious radio stars perceived, until … the scientists realize that something is wrong. Instruments designed to measure the vibrations with which scientists are familiar will be designed and redesigned. [...]

Your scientists are correct in supposing that the universe is composed of the same elements that can be found in your plane. [...]

Your scientists can count their elements, and while they are on the wrong track, they will discover more and more elements until they are ready to go out of their minds. [...]

Jane and I have often been most intrigued by the obvious contradictions involved here, for what can the materialistic scientists use other than mind—or consciousness, that poor epiphenomenon—to study and dissect matter? [...] To which, understandably enough, those scientists who do accept the reality of mind reply that neither can the idea be falsified that only what is “physical” is real.

Many of the ideas in our current book will be accepted by scientists most dubiously, though some, of course, will grasp what I will be saying. [...]

5. By now, a number of the world’s leading scientists in the physical disciplines have publicly stated their beliefs that basically consciousness plays the primary role in our world and/or universe. [...]

However, for every scientist bold enough to think this way, there are scores of others who vehemently disagree. [...]

“Instruments calculated to measure the vibrations with which scientists are familiar will be designed and redesigned. All sorts finally of seemingly impossible phenomena will be discovered with these instruments, until the scientists realize that something is desperately wrong. [...] Scientists do this all the time.”

[...] In parentheses: (Any scientists who might be reading this book may as well stop here.) I am not assigning human traits to energy. [...]

“Your scientists can count their elements…. [...]

As long as scientists insist upon considering the perceiver and the perceived event as entirely separate, then the true nature of perception will not be understood.

[...] The scientist’s field of inquiry involves these. [...]

These connections are not even suspected, simply because your scientists do not seriously consider that physical reality is the result of any such interrelation. [...]

My life is its own definition.
So is yours.
Let us leave the priests
to their hells and heavens,
and confine
the scientists
to their dying universe,
with its
accidentally created stars.
Let us each dare
to open our dream’s door,
and explore
the unofficial thresholds,
where we begin.

Some of our readers, sending us recent books and copies of articles written by scientists working on these subjects, have noted that it must be nice for Jane and me to have concepts that Seth has been discussing for years “corroborated” by the establishment (often we already had the material on file, by the way). But once again irony enters in on my part, for I’m afraid our answer is that in general science isn’t even aware of the existence of the Seth material, notwithstanding the letters of approval and/or encouragement we receive from individual scientists, representing a variety of disciplines. [...] As I wrote to a fan just last week: “No matter what he or she may think of it personally, no reputable scientist is going to publicly espouse a belief in the Seth material. [...]

[...] From what Jane and I can gather (through our reading especially), at least some of the world’s leading scientists are becoming willing to contend with consciousness itself. [...]

Some day, for our own amusement—but hardly with the idea of convincing others, let alone influential scientists—I’ll ask Seth to comment upon whatever connections may exist between his ideas and those embedded in quantum mechanics. [...]

[...] Science and philosophy will not agree with any of this, I know—at least for the most part, for I’ve read that there’s never an idea so wild that it can’t find a home in the mind of some scientist or philosopher. [...]

Existence in this field has great importance, particularly as far as the physical brain mechanism is concerned, and there are far more connections here than your scientists have yet discovered. [...]

Now again: regardless of current scientific thought, there are at least three different kinds of electric force which your scientists have not yet discovered, and one of these has much to do with the intensity of thoughts as they are formed in the intangible mind, and translated to the physical brain and then into action, as the case may be.

The trouble has been that your scientists see or perceive electrical and chemical systems, for example, only in their relationship with the physical system. [...]