“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Planes can and do intermix without the knowledge of the inhabitants of the particular planes involved. I want to get away from the idea of a plane being a place. It may be in some cases but is not always. A plane may be a time. A plane, believe it or not, may be only one iota of vitality that seems to exist by itself. A plane is something apparently divided from the rest of the universe for a time and for a reason. A plane may cease to be. A plane may spring up where there was none. A plane is formed for entities as patterns for fulfillment on various levels. A plane is a climate conducive to the development of unique and particular capacities and achievements. A plane is an isolation of elements where each one is given the most possible space in which to function.

[Many of] the flying saucer appearances come from [such] a plane, [one] that is much more advanced in technological sciences than earth at this time. However, this is still not a mental-science plane. Therefore the camouflage paraphernalia appears, more or less visible, to your own astonishment. Now, so strong is this tendency for vitality to change from one apparent form to another, that what you have here in your flying object is something that is actually, as you view it, not of your plane or of [whatever] plane of its origin … The atoms and molecules that structurally compose the UFO, and which are themselves formed by vitality, are more or less aligned according to the pattern of its own territory. Now as the craft enters your plane a distortion occurs. Its actual structure is caught in a dilemma of form … between transforming itself completely into earth’s particular camouflage pattern, and retaining its original pattern. The earthly viewer attempts to correlate what he sees with what he supposedly knows or imagines possible in the universe.

One note along these lines. A plane — and I am using your term; I will try to think of a better one — is not necessarily a planet. A plane may be one planet, but a plane may also exist where no planet is. One planet may have several planes. Planes may also involve various aspects of apparent time — this particular matter being too difficult to go into right now, although I will continue it later.

Planets have been used as planes and used again as other planes. A plane is not a cosmic location. It is oftentimes practical that entities or their various personalities visit one plane before another. This does not necessarily mean that one plane must be visited before another. A certain succession is merely more useful for the entity as a whole.

Planes can and do intermix without the knowledge of the particular inhabitants of either plane. I want to get away from the idea of a plane being a place. [...] A plane may be a time. A plane, believe it or not, may be only one iota of vitality that seems to exist by itself. A plane is something apparently divided from the rest of the universe for a time and for a reason. A plane may cease to be. A plane may spring up where there was none. A plane is formed for entities as patterns for fulfillment along various levels. A plane is a climate conducive to the development of unique and particular capacities and achievements. A plane is an isolation of elements where each element is given the most possible space in which to function.

The planes within the tiny wires, that is the planes formed by the connections and interconnections of our imaginary wires, come into the sphere of each different plane and take on the form inherent in the plane itself. [...] Then too, the inhabitants of any particular plane are chameleonlike, animallike. [...] They appear exactly of the same type as the other materializations on that particular plane.

[...] When however sciences progress on various planes, then visitations become less accidental and more planned. However, since the inhabitants of each plane are bound by the materializations or materialized patterns of that plane, they bring this particular materialization pattern or camouflaged vitality pattern with them. [...] When the inhabitants of a plane have learned mental science patterns, then they are to a great degree freed from the more regular camouflage patterns. This applies to a higher plane than mine, generally speaking, although my plane is further along in this science than your own.

The main mental enzymes create senses on the physical plane in order that they may be recognized and appreciated by the physical being. The mental enzymes are the same basically throughout the universe, but their materializations on a particular plane are determined by the properties inherent in the plane itself. The quality called light on this plane could just as well appear as sound in another, and for that matter even on this plane light can be changed into sound and sound into light.

[...] She is focusing less and less upon this plane and will, again gradually, begin to focus upon another plane. [...] There is a period of adjustment after leaving any plane, although your plane involves the most difficulty since the camouflage pattern is unusually rigid.

Oh yes, this happens in countless cases, and could happen to your plane. It would in no way affect other planes. The vitality on your plane and on or in all planes in your grouping displays itself in terms of self-consciousness to some degree, as you understand it.

On many other planes the vitality expresses itself in ways incomprehensible to you and at this point to me. The personality-entity concept involves only one main type process involving many planes and plane groups. [...] It is extremely possible that many in the personality-existence grouping have been involved within other completely different plane groupings in some inconceivable past.

That image was of another personality type fragment from another plane. I have used the word plane to describe any other existence sphere with which you are not familiar. [...] From here on I will use the word plane to refer to existences having to do with your own levels. That is your Miss Callahan I will say is on another plane, since this involves the continuation in some manner of a personality concept which you can understand.

A plane is not necessarily a planet. A plane may be one planet, but a plane may also exist where no planet is. One planet may have several planes. Planes may also involve various aspects of apparent time. Planes can and do intermix without the knowledge of the inhabitants. A plane may be a time … or only one iota of vitality that exists by itself. A plane may cease to be. A plane is formed for entities as patterns for fulfillment along various lines. [...]

It is often practical that entities or their various personalities visit one plane before another. This does not mean that one plane must necessarily be visited before another. … You could say also that an entity visits all planes simultaneously, as it is possible for you to visit one particular state, county and city at one time. [...] In fact, the analogy of a plane with an emotional state is much more valid than the analogy between a plane and a geographical state, particularly since emotional states take up no room or space. …

[...] The planes within the tiny wires — that is, the planes formed by the connections and interconnections of our imaginary wires — come into the sphere of each different plane and take on the form inherent in the plane itself.

[...] Mental enzymes create senses on the physical plane in order that they may be recognized and appreciated by the physical being. The mental enzymes are the same, basically, throughout the universe, but their materializations on any particular plane are determined by the properties inherent in the plane itself.

“The universe as you think of it contains innumerable planes, all taking up, in your terms, the same amount of space. The forms within these planes are in constant motion, as are the planes themselves. There is a continual exchange of energy and vitality, in other words, of actual atoms and molecules between one plane and another … the interaction and movement of even one plane through another results in effects that will be perceived in various ways … as necessary distortive boundaries, in some cases resembling a flow as if a plane were surrounded by water, or in other cases a charge as of electricity. But on each plane the effects … of this interchange of energy will take on the camouflage [physical appearance] of the particular plane.

[...] No living consciousness exists on any plane without this tissue capsule enclosing it … To some inhabitants of other planes [realities] that have access to your plane, all that can be seen of you is this capsule, since such inhabitants have had no experience in your particular type of camouflage [physical] construction. [...]

“… forms vary on different planes, are visible or invisible according to your own situation. A form that may be perceived by you as solid may be seen merely as an electrical unit on another plane, or as color on a third. You, for example … are perceived by others on other planes at this moment, but to them you are not seen in the form with which you are familiar.

“Using the senses developed on a particular plane to perceive its characteristic camouflage patterns, it is almost impossible to see beyond these boundary effects. [...]

[...] There are certain planes which I cannot glimpse from my viewpoint, although I have greater understanding of these things than you. I realize that the changes that must occur before I can view those other planes will occur in me, not in the other planes. Again if you will consider our maze of wires, I will ask you to imagine them filling up everything that is, with your plane and my plane like two small bird’s nests in the net-like fabric of some gigantic tree.

[...] Things behave as though the wires and cubes were there, but these were only constructions necessary even to those on my plane in order to make things comprehensible to our faculties, the faculties of any entity. [...] I have more senses, so to speak, in operating use that is, than you have, because not only am I aware of my own plane but of yours and other parallel planes, even though I myself have not existed in some of those parallel planes.

[...] Your plane could be likened to a small position between four very spindly and thin wires, and my plane could be likened to the small position in the neighboring wires on the other side. Yet not only are we on different sides of the same wires, but we are at the same time either above or below, according to your viewpoint, and if you consider the wires as forming cubes—this is for you, Joseph, with your love of images—then the cubes could also fit one within the other without disturbing the inhabitants of either cube one iota; and these cubes are also within cubes, which are themselves within cubes, and I am speaking now of only the small particle of space taken up by your plane and mine.

Again now think merely in terms of your plane, bounded by its small spindly set of wires, and my plane on the other side. [...] You cannot see through, but the two planes move through each other constantly.

The distortive illusion of successive moments, and of the resulting conception of cause and effect, are both on your plane the result of the observation by the outer senses, and are practical and useful on your plane and therefore have a certain validity, if for you only.

[...] When fifth dimension is understood, it in itself will show the existence of other realities not on your own horizontal plane. And as I mentioned earlier, I’d like to see you try to get from one plane to another in a spaceship.

[...] I was not completely reassembled for your plane, however, and he prickled at the unusual chemical fields that were noticeable to him because they were not yet stable. [...]

[...] On your plane there must be physical manipulation. [...]

Such an outer ego turned inner ego, has only experienced existence then upon a particular plane. It is therefore filled with impatience as far as existence upon other planes are concerned; and therefore if it developed upon your plane initially, it will not choose to initiate anew there, but will choose other planes of activity.

It does therefore contain within it the knowledge of its experiences upon your plane, though such an entity can spring from any plane. This of course represents the most extraordinary possibility, and such an entity can, if it is so propelled by its own strength, exist upon a variety of planes, carrying along with it knowledge of all previous planes; and each of its outer egos have the same opportunities. [...]

[...] These inherent qualities and characteristics determine the planes upon which the inner self will exist, and on each plane a certain materialization is necessary. It will vary according to the properties of the plane.

It will therefore return once more to the same plane with which it was familiar, where it will meet with new challenges, and develop new abilities that will, however, be of the same basic nature; that is, if we are speaking of your plane, the ego would have new experiences, develop new abilities, perhaps solve old problems, balance out deficiencies, but still be dealing with problems of manipulation and physical construction.

[...] What you call karma has meaning only in basic terms within your particular plane. [...] Nevertheless personalities on your plane work out individual problems within that plane through various existences. [...] He, the personality, adopts in various reincarnations upon your plane those purposes most in keeping with his own needs. [...]

The material that I have given you concerning the nature of planes will be quite handy here. I have told you that a plane is not necessarily a planet, nor a place, but even a mere focus of awareness. A dream is an awareness of and existence in another plane, whereby the self changes focus to keep in touch with the various portions of itself so that inner communication can be maintained.

There are only various planes of existence in which energy wishes, or may wish, to manifest itself. The entity then projects a personality within that plane of existence, equipping it with whatever camouflage senses, mechanisms, and protections that are necessary for survival on that plane.

A child is not completely materialized upon your plane, nor is he oriented. A personality may refuse to gain such experience before actual birth upon your plane. This necessity for value fulfillment through experience upon a particular existence plane, is the only detriment, if you wish to think of it that way, to free will.

They, or the inhabitants of such realities, do not perceive your plane of existence for the same reason. This does not mean that any one field or plane is more valid than another. The closest field or plane is that one that you create, that you call the dream world, and that you imagine to be unsubstantial, impermanent, fleeting, having no reality except during your own contact with it.

[...] During break I wondered aloud whether the inhabitants of another plane might be able to tune in on our dream world from the other side, you might say, and through the dream world thus locate our plane. Perhaps the flying saucer people had located our plane in that fashion.

It is not part of the particular camouflage necessities on that plane. [...] At other levels you exist and manipulate on other planes, which are consciously unknown to you, planes which are as valid as your own, and in which your existence is also a natural result of your own psychic makeup. [...]

You know then from past discussions that the dream world as you know it is the result of your awareness of a plane of existence which you help create, and in which you manipulate. In other words, on an unconscious level you here manipulate in another plane of existence entirely, one in which your conscious camouflage ego may not enter.

Mental enzymes have a chemical effect or reaction on your plane. That is they can be observed on your plane through their chemical effect in it. [...] On other planes the distortion effect may not be chemical at all. I have spoken of your plane rather than of your planet because earth is one of the planets that contain many planes.

[...] Even though they are not different things I must speak of them differently because they appear so on your plane. This is caused of course by the typical camouflage distortion effect, which occurs on almost every plane to some extent.

[...] Air and water have many forms even on your plane. [...] Then why is it so difficult to understand that this happens on other planes and under different camouflage sequences?

[...] The painting in other words achieves a certain freedom from camouflage, while it cannot escape it, and actually hovers between planes in a way that no thoroughly camouflaged object could do. That is, something that exists completely in your plane cannot be evocative in the manner that a painting or, and this is for Ruburt, a poem can be.

The capsule of course is not a solid on any plane. To some inhabitants of other planes that have access to your plane, all that can be seen of you is this tissue capsule, since such inhabitants have had no experience in your particular type of camouflage construction. [...]

The inhabitants of the flying saucers are not of your own plane. [...] You will have to remember in any of the discussions along these lines that your physical constructions simply do not exist except on your own plane. Other constructions exist simultaneously with your own, of an entirely different nature, also however on what you may call a horizontal plane. [...]

All of the inner senses are not utilized to the same degree on any plane. Many planes are given over to the training in the use of one or two of the most important inner senses. [...]

[...] The spider’s construction is severely limited to one plane, but this is not the case with your constructions, which may have reality on many planes at once, and in ways with which you are not familiar.

Now I have said that a plane is not necessarily a location. [...] The universe as you think of it contains innumerable planes, all taking up in your terms the same amount of space. The forms within these planes are in constant motion, as are the planes themselves. There is a continual exchange of energy and vitality, in other words, of actual atoms and molecules between one plane and another.

These forms vary on different planes, are visible or invisible according to your own situation. A form that may be perceived by you as solid may be perceived merely as an electrical unit in another plane, or as color on a third. [...] You are perceived by others on other planes at this moment, but to them you are not perceived in the form with which you are familiar.

[...] You are aware only of perceptions along the horizontal planes, and the more powerful your scientific instruments become the more you will be able to see. [...] However, the universes containing an almost infinite number of planes are therefore affected by the exchange of energies involved, and the interaction and continual movement even of one plane through another results in effects which will be perceived in various ways, again according to your own situation in them.

These effects will be experienced as necessary distortive boundaries, in some cases resembling a flow as if a plane were surrounded by water, in some cases a charge as of electricity, but on each plane the resulting effects of this interchange, interaction and constant motion of energy will take on the camouflage of the particular plane.

[...] This seems to have something to do with the plane.. 19 three six, or nineteen six six in connection with the plane, type of plane, I believe, or the pilot is connected with a man who in 1936 conceived ideas not used until this particular plane’s construction.

[...] Or the plane lands at this time and the people are dismissed then.

[...] It is obvious by now that entities on any plane create that plane, and a strong portion of their personalities are similarly constructed to deal with the mechanics of the particular plane.

The inner senses operate on all planes and under all circumstances. The outer senses vary according to plane and circumstance. The outer senses are dependable only in terms of the definite plane for which they were constructed. [...]

War does not exist on other planes. It exists on your plane as a byproduct of certain challenges which the creator-entities wished to solve through materialization. [...]

Art creations represent such an awareness, but here the creation of another plane must be intertwined with the camouflage pattern with which you are involved. [...] You do this to the best of your ability, but in order for the painting to have a reality in your world it must be materialized to some degree on the physical plane.

[...] The actuality of a plane, the validity of a plane, is not necessarily determined by its material makeup. On some planes this is so, but on a small number only.

These fields or planes are more various than you can imagine, and they are formed in the same manner, basically, as your own universe was formed, and many of those inhabitants tune in on your universe spontaneously and quite accidentally. But the inhabitants of most such planes are no more aware of your actual existence than you are of their existence.

[...] Planes of actuality of one sort or another everywhere exist. [...]

Many of these planes of actuality can never be explored by any physical vehicle. [...]

[...] It follows that there are more curved lines than straight ones, both in our art on this plane, in our lives on this plane, and in our habitat on this plane.

(Jane dictates:) Chlorophyll as I said is a mental enzyme, and is one of the moving forces in your plane. However, a variant of this exists in all other planes. [...]

[...] (Jane dictates:) As mental genes are behind the physical genes so to speak, so mental enzymes are behind the physical stuff that you can examine on your plane. [...]

[...] You both already understand that your plane is really composed of solidified thought. [...]

[...] Now as these wires pass seemingly from plane to plane they actually form the boundaries of each plane and become subject to the particular laws of the plane. Therefore they become subject to time on your plane. And they become subject to other laws, if not laws of time, on other planes.

Everything on your plane is a materialization of something that exists independent of your plane. [...] However as your regular senses are limited according to the plane which you inhabit—in your case dear friends on your plane extremely limited, I’m afraid—so are the corresponding inner senses limited.

[...] As your ability grows in relation with the environment of your plane then you can afford to look around, use the inner senses, and enlarge your scope of activity. [...] Survival on a particular plane depends upon your concentration in that plane. [...]

While I am not affected by time on your plane I am affected by something resembling time on my plane. [...]

[...] Everyone who has left your plane has developed as far as he can on your plane. But as in your life certain environments tend to encourage some people in the realization of their talents, and seem to hinder others in the development of their peculiar talents, so some personalities expand in their capabilities on your plane; and some who do rather poorly on your plane expand surprisingly on other planes.

[...] This is not the case on all planes. It is not even the case on planes that you might consider lower than your own, nor is it the case with some portions of life that you consider beneath you on your own plane.

The personality when it leaves your plane for good will have developed its potentials as far as it possibly can. This does not mean that all personalities who have left your plane are at the same level. [...]

This talent for using energy to form unit patterns is elemental, not only on your plane but in all other planes. [...]

As these inner senses become more and more a part of your plane they take on more of the characteristics of your plane, and therefore more of the characteristics of the whole self on that plane.

If you will think (I hope) for simplicity’s sake of the whole self as it exists on your plane with its physical body, conscious ego and inner self as one field unit, which is also part of the larger or more complete entity as one field unit within another, then perhaps it will not be too much for you to imagine the connection, or one of the connections, between the entity field and the whole-self field, which is on your plane as being the inner senses—that is, the inner senses are one of the connectives between these two fields.

This subconscious is another link or connective between the two fields of which we have spoken, and again, as it enters your plane it takes on the characteristics of your plane. [...]

[...] In our discussion of fifth dimension, I mentioned how the vitality of the universe changes in different planes while it actually makes up the planes at the same time. [...]