“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(You had a brief life as twins... Some definite clear-cut divisions within yourself have to do with this life when you were one of two... one going one way, and one the other... One twin had a strong leaning toward military things... a soldier... The organization of the church now serves the same purpose I believe.... security within the organization... The twin who was in the military found his sense of identity as a soldier within the system, but he had great faith in the system... in what he was doing... The other twin was more given to a statesmanlike sort of thing... and was in fact an orator although he had another profession...It included oration to people... The two of you had a very strong telepathic relationship... and this time the church has provided the same kind of organization... You sort of resented the fact that this twin brother of yours had this organization in which he found support and in which he felt so a part because he was absolutely certain of the aims and goals of the organization and he was a good soldier within it... and at that time you envied him that security and that sense of identity within the system in which he believed. This time the orator part of you is still strong in that you want to teach and like to talk and to discuss issues... but also at the same time you wanted the sense of security that you felt the other brother had... Also you picked up his desire to go to battle for, only in this case you are using battle for ideas that you are struggling for. The other brother was battling for what the organization wanted, and served the organization well... You are now battling the things the organization wants and you feel the division... This division is bringing up memories subconsciously, in this past life where there was this division between you and your brother.

(Greek name... Ostinatious... I am getting also 12 B.C.... This would be his name, not the other twin; that is because he had this telepathic communication with his twin, he has this sense of wanting unity within himself very strongly, at the same time a sense of being divided. A strong inclination to go ahead independently with his ideas, balanced by the desire to find security within the system, and the fear to leave it. His intellectual freedom, he feels, exists only so long as it is cushioned by the feeling of security of the organization... and if he cut loose he would be too panic-stricken to be an independent thinker leading to a dilemma...which you reached just after 30 in this life.... You, Muriel, were the twin brother.) [Typed by WL.]

You had a brief life as twins—some definite clear-cut divisions within yourself, have to do with this life when you were one of two—one going one way, and one going the other—one twin had a strong leaning toward military things—a soldier—the organization of the church now serves the same purpose, I believe—security within the organization—the twin who was in the military found his sense of identity as a soldier within the system, but he had great faith in the system—in what he was doing—the other twin was more given to a statesman-like sort of thing—and was in fact an orator, although he had another profession—it included oration to people—the two of you had a very strong telepathic relationship—and this time the church has provided the same kind of organization—you sort of resented the fact that this twin brother of yours had this organization in which he found support and in which he felt so a part because he was absolutely certain of the aims and goals of the organization and he was a good soldier within it—and at that time you envied him that security and that sense of identity within the system in which he believed. [...] The other brother was battling for what the organization wanted, and served the organization well—you are now battling the things the organization wants and you feel the division—this division is bringing up memories subconsciously, in this past life where there was this division between you and your brother. [...]

[...] His intellectual freedom, he feels, exists only so long as it is cushioned by the feeling of security of the organization—and if he cut loose he would be too panic-stricken to be an independent thinker, leading to a dilemma which you reached just after 30 in this life. [...]

This is not to say that a man has no control over the physical state of his own organism. It is to say that many more factors go into the construction and maintenance of the physical organism than you realize. Subconsciously, man manages to balance these influences, and there are physical mechanisms within the organism whose purpose it is to deal with such data.

The inner self, which has been called the soul, has connections through the entire physical organism, and is not concentrated in any one portion. More adjustments are made by the physical organism than you know, and when I say that it exists in many fields, I mean that it actually not only appears within them, but is a part of them in an intimate manner, that the physical organism as it is materialized within your universe is actually a coming together and merging that has its existence, and is a blending of data from many planes, that would be considered foreign by the intellect.

[...] When they are clicked open, usually but not always chemically through a momentary imbalance, the physical organism itself is connected to the dream universe, as well as to your physical universe; and to some degree the physical organism can be affected through this connection.

It is not understood that this connection exists, but metabolism is to some degree influenced by the physical organism’s dream connection. The physical organism is not only open to, but to some extent influenced by, many more areas of actuality than is supposed; and its survival is determined by a large variety of factors as yet hardly considered possible by your scientists or doctors.

I have said this before: If you were able to focus your attention upon the dissimilarities, merely those that you can perceive but do not, then you would be amazed that mankind can form any idea of an organized reality. [...] When the others look at our friends here on the fancy blue couch, they see a picture of true organization. [...] It appears perfect and organized.

[...] You make the organization. Your thoughts perceive an organization. You enforce the organization, and indeed create it.

[...] In the session, here slightly abbreviated, Seth discusses organization in our present reality, among others. See the 537th session in Chapter Nine for material on after-death organization.)

Now: If you want organization then you shall have it — at any time. You structure your own existence, and you choose those realities that have exactly as much organization as you need at any given time.

[...] If you were able to focus your attention upon the dissimilarities, merely those that you can perceive but do not, then you would be amazed that mankind could form any idea of an organized reality. [...] When the others look at our friends here on the fancy blue couch, they see a picture of true organization. [...] It appears perfect and organized. [...] And so the picture is very organized. [...]

As soon as you realize however that the picture is not complete, then you must begin to ask new questions, and the old idea of the perfect organization is gone. [...] You make the organization your thoughts perceive as organization. You enforce the organization and indeed create it. [...]

Now, if you want organization then you shall have it—at any time. You structure your own existence and you choose those realities that have exactly as much organization as you need at any given time. [...]

([Arnold:] “Do we all create the same organization and see the same couch?”)

You use such belief organizations to concentrate upon certain data and ignore other, so that consciously and unconsciously you organize inner and outer stimuli so that it makes sense according to your beliefs, and forms therefore a more or less dependable framework in which action and response are possible.

[...] To many people, some kind of organization, even one that is wobbly, is far better than facing the task of setting up an entirely new view of reality. The inner structure of most of your organizations and institutions are based on those old precepts. [...]

(With gentle irony:) You made a remark earlier this evening to the effect that the individual could do nothing in the face of such organized behavior—a remark that by now I’m sure you regret voicing. [...] To some extent through the books you are helping people alter their psychic organizations, to look at the world in a different fashion, and therefore to view a different world—a world in which their experiences are different than they would have been otherwise.

Now: in basic terms you form your reality, privately and en masse—through your beliefs, of course, and those beliefs cause you to organize your psychic world in certain fashions.

[...] They compose the cells, and these combine to form the organs. The organs possess the combined consciousnesses of each of the cells within them, and in their way the organs sense their own identity.

They have a purpose — that function they provide within the organism as a whole. [...]

[...] Though you organize this living material it has its own right to fulfillment and existence. [...]

[...] It is no longer organized by your own domain. [...]

[...] He presumes that consciousness must be organized about an ego structure. And what he calls the unconscious, not so egotistically organized, he, therefore, considers without consciousness—without consciousness of self. [...] He does not realize, however, nor do your other psychologists, what I have told you often—that there is an inner ego; and it is this inner ego that organizes what Jung would call unconscious material.

Now: the inner ego is the organizer of experience that Jung would call unconscious. [...] As the outer ego manipulates within the physical environment, so the inner ego or self organizes and manipulates with an inner reality. [...]

[...] It is the inner self, here termed the inner ego, that organizes, initiates, projects, and controls the EE (electromagnetic energy) units of which we have been speaking, transforming energy into objects, into matter.

The inner ego is always aware of both aspects and is organized about its primary aspect which is creativity. [...]

These coincidences do indeed hint at another kind of organization, and throw a different perspective indeed on the nature of events. Those coincidences and significances are indeed giving hints of the actual organization behind the facts of your world. This organization is personally, intimately tuned, in that it gives evidence of a spectacular psychology on another scale that organizes events in a manner that is for each individual personally significant.

[...] You think that it is organized along mechanical lines, or absolute lines, or objective lines, and that any intents that you have exist almost in spite of the organization of the universe.

Your organized patterns of thought cause you to look in all the wrong places, usually for the wrong reasons.

[...] You have, however, the clues, and again, begin to organize your reality along those lines—to take each release or new motion, however small, as one part of the puzzle that is falling into place, in line with the greater pattern.

[...] You will then still organize experience (underline organize), but you will not need artificial aids such as time to lean upon. [...]

[...] Form, like time, is an aid, an organization of experience. Form is used as time structures may be used, but multidimensional personalities know that they construct form as they may construct various time systems as an aid toward organizing perception.

[...] Any time structure is an aid, organizing experience along certain lines. [...]

[...] You organize experience along your own lines because you have learned now to do so. [...]

The belief that a given problem cannot be solved can cause much difficulty, unless you freely and consciously give it up; particularly when inner organs are affected, this point plays a strong part. A diseased organ that is then removed through an operation often represents an unfaced problem, or one that is considered beyond solving. [...] Since people only have so many organs to lose, that road can be dangerous indeed.

Ruburt spread his physical problem around more, bodywise; in such a way, he thought he could endure longer, you see, rather than attacking a critical organ.

They were these; that the entire world and its organization was kept together by certain stories or one in particular—like the Catholic Church’s; that it was dangerous beyond all knowing to look through the stories or examine them or to look for the truth and that all kinds of taboos existed to keep us from doing this, since.... since on the other side so to speak there was an incomprehensible frightening chaotic dimension, malevolent, powers beyond our imagining; and that to question the stories was to threaten survival not just personally but to threaten the fabric and organization of reality as we knew it. [...] without a framework in which to even organize meaning. [...]

[...] you threatened the fine framework of organization that alone made life possible....

[...] He presumes that consciousness must be organized about an ego structure. And what he calls the unconscious, not so egotistically organized, he therefore considers without consciousness, without consciousness of a self.

Now the inner ego is the organizer of experience that Jung would call unconscious. [...] As the outer ego manipulates within the environment and physical reality, so the inner ego or self organizes and manipulates within an inner reality. [...]

[...] He does not realize however, nor do your other psychologists, what I have told you often—that there is an inner ego; and it is this inner ego that organizes what Jung would call unconscious material.

[...] It is the inner self, termed here the inner ego, that organizes, initiates, projects, controls the EE units of which we have been speaking lately, transforming energy into objects, into matter.

[...] Your civilization is organized around science and technology, and generally speaking, now, the arts and other schools of knowledge have been largely subsidiary. [...] But these civilizations were not organized around technology, so that the technological advances, while highly sophisticated, were not pursued with the same diligence as in your time, and they were considered novelties—playthings for the wealthy, advanced toys, but not considered in a serious light.

[...] There was not a technological organization however as you know it, so that the technological achievements were considered somewhat in a fashion that your society now considers fine art—esthetic, to be collected by the wealthy, delightful, good for collectors but not particularly practical. [...]

In a way mental organization itself was different—psychic priorities, if you prefer. [...]

[...] Sometimes in a developed manner, or simply in plan form, but never in the same organized domineering fashion.

[...] It is, instead, a certain kind of organization that is indeed inviolate even while it is itself a portion of other kinds of consciousnesses, with their own points of focus. Your body itself is composed of self-aware organizations of consciousness that escape your notice and deal with perceptual material utterly alien to your own ways.

[...] The animals in particular realize this because they organize time differently from you. [...] But here is a creative mixture: the perceptive organizations from which prosaically tuned conscious life emerges. [...]

There are organizations of consciousness, however, that leapfrog the species, that produce no arts or sciences per se — yet these together form the living body of the earth and the physical creatures thereon. [...]

[...] Also, part of man’s reality contributes to that trans-species organization, but he has not chosen to focus his practical daily consciousness in that direction, or to identify his individuality with it. [...]

[...] By their nature certain kinds of organization, behavior, and experimentation exclude other quite-as-valid but different approaches. The CU’s, in their freewheeling nature beneath all matter, are acquainted with all such organizations, so that some of the lessons learned by one species are indeed transferred to another.

The CU’s, forming the structure later in its entirety, form all the atoms, molecules, cells, and organs that make up your world. [...] There is a great organization of consciousness involved on such occasions — sometimes creative cataclysms, in which, again from its own precognitive information, nature brings about those situations best suited to its needs. [...]

[...] The religious ideas served as social organization, much needed, and many of the monks managed to preserve old manuscripts and knowledge underground. [...] Psychic and religious ideas, then, despite many drawbacks, served as a method of species organization. [...]

[...] They also form organizations. [...]

Often the seeming meaninglessness of dreams is the result of your own ignorance of dream symbolism and organization. For example: You may also misinterpret “revelatory” material because you try to structure it in reference to your ordinary conscious organizations. [...]

First of all, the various kinds of organizations used by the psyche can be compared at one level, at least, with different arts. [...] I am not saying, then, that one mode of organization is better than another. [...]

(9:20.) First of all, these other organizations do not deal primarily with time at all, but with the emotions and associative processes. [...]

[...] Your emotions trigger your memories, and they organize your associations. [...]

Illness as a Way of Focus — an Organizer of Experience Conversion, love, etc., as alternate organizers.

(Now, after just a little organizing on my part, here are a few samples from the 35 chapter headings in Jane’s outline for The Way Toward Health. [...]

The Naming of Diseases as Structuring Experience Into Permanent States and Socially Recognized Organizations

The Need for an Organized Structure for Experience
If one vanishes, an illness may take its place while a new one forms.

You normally organize your experience in terms of time. [...]

[...] The psyche deals largely with associative processes, however, as it organizes events through association. [...]

All psychological structures then are composed of such organizations, however long-or short-lived in your terms. They are innately endowed with the desire or propensity for growth and creative organization. [...] Since these units of consciousness exist at once, they are aware of all the organized self-structures of which they are a part. [...]

[...] It contains within itself innately infinite properties of expansion, development, and organization; yet within itself always maintains the kernel of its own individuality. Despite whatever organizations it becomes part of, or how it mixes with other such basic units, its own identity is not annihilated.

[...] Using usual definitions, you would call a soul the result of a certain organization of such units, which you would then recognize as a “soul.”

[...] That viewpoint however is highly limited, for “above you,” using that scale, there are other more developed organizations of these units; and so from that “more exalted viewpoint,” you would seem to be junior souls indeed.