“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now. All of this does not mean that personalities within other systems do not construct their own kind of time structures, but in all of these cases the personalities realize quite well that the structures are adapted for the sake of organization of experience.

They do not suppose any given time system to have any reality of its own. Such systems do not use the consecutive structure of your own however. In much the same manner materializations of a kind may be utilized, but the personalities do not give the materializations any reality outside of themselves. They know the origin of images.

It is rather difficult for those who have not been in your system to understand that you give time and images a reality of their own, as if they existed apart from you. Form does not necessarily presuppose the existence of images. (Long pause.) Give us a moment here.

Form is not dependent upon mass. This comes closer to what I am trying to tell you. In your time system the growth of mass seems to be dependent upon continuity of moments. Time has nothing to do with form, however.

Now some personalities from one system aid other personalities within other systems, but highly developed personalities, those in your terms so far advanced, will set for themselves the task of aiding an entire civilization; of assisting the development of a new system, and sometimes initiating the existence of that system.

Each will itself learn to organize larger portions of energy. It is difficult to put this into words that you will understand. They are incipient and latent personalities. This does not mean however that they will all materialize within your own system, but they do represent in your terms the future inhabitants of your system.

Now it is quite possible for the advanced personalities of which I have spoken to take upon themselves the camouflage of a particular system, enter it, become for, in quotes “a time” dependent upon its rules in order to help those who dwell within it; and this has been done on occasions too countless to mention.

In other cases contact is made through a personality within the system. The personality within the system may or may not know that such contact has been made. Ideas may be inserted in your case through the subconscious while the individual sleeps. When this happens then following your own psychological patterns the ideas would emerge more or less naturally, with little hint of their origin, and, the individual involved could well consider them his own.

The well-advanced personality then is aware of nontime, but can use the time illusions of others and can enter the particular camouflage structures. The nontime principle however operates in such a manner that a personality can only participate in the ways that I have described, in systems with which he has some familiarity because of his own experience.

Now. There are also those who stay within your system, in your terms, returning again and again in order to help its development.

Such personalities will concentrate their main activities in such a way that they can best affect conceptual thought, and bring about necessary changes. Many large families are representative of this group. They appear and reappear in your histories, always as dominant and significant entities. Here the family represents an entity who has taken upon itself the nurturing of your civilization. Knowing intuitively those changes which must come about in your future, they try to bring them about by appearing in your past; though to them your future and the past are the same they must still work within probabilities, you see, and what they are doing is affecting probabilities within your system. Even your time is basically plastic, though it does not seem so to you.

Such personalities try to affect the feelings and thoughts of a civilization, for these thoughts and feelings will alone bring about events. Personalities may be born within your system and find that it does not challenge them, or it is not to their liking in any case. (Pause.) Give us a moment on this. (Pause.)

They may leave the system then (pause), sometimes as aborted infants, but if they grow through childhood the first time, in your terms, then they must work out their development within the system.

You block out the realization of nontime, and accept your ideas of time along with the camouflage structure, for one is dependent upon the other. Once you accept physical matter as you know it, then the time system is indispensable. In those projections still within your system, you are still bound by a time relationship, in that it seems to you that perception operates as usual.

Time is useful only as a method of organizing perceptions. Perception itself does not require time. Within your system however perception does seem dependent upon it. Using your terms nontime is as plastic as space seems to be. Space can be formed into tables and chairs, mountains and continents, but space is not dependent upon tables or chairs, mountains or continents. Now you may take a break or end the session as you prefer.