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(Jane has been taking time off from God of Jane and If We Live Again to work on the Introduction for Sue Watkins’s Conversation With Seth. Sue took the manuscript for Conversations with her when she went to Florida for the month with her son and parents. If those three members of her family are enjoying a vacation, Sue isn’t—but at least she’s working on her book in warm weather!

(Sue stated she felt miserable.)

([Sue:] “No.”

(To Sue.) And to this one over here. [...]

[...] And I can say here (Sue); in particularly here (Florence); and here (Alison); and here (another student), for these forces have already begun. [...]

(To Sue.) And I have a few remarks for our friend here. [...]

[...] (To Sue again.) For if your own fears for the individual become involved, then it is more difficult for you to perceive the reality. [...]

([Sue:] “Was that just a projection in the dream?”)

(To Sue.) And without detours. [...]

[...] Sue Watkins visited us last night, and related several recent dreams in which she saw Jane functioning normally physically. [...]

[...] Your dreams and Sue’s allow you, ever so subtly, to change your own views of Ruburt’s behavior. [...]

[...] Privately and through your dreams and Sue’s, Ruburt with your help in the dream state sees that motion can be and is easy. [...]

(Sue Mullin was a witness.)

[...] Now, you may take a break and we shall continue, and my heartiest wishes to our friend (Sue).

[...] On that day Tam Mossman of Prentice-Hall called Sue Watkins to ask her permission to publish Conversations With Seth in two volumes; Sue’s account of Jane’s ESP classes is now too long for a single book. Actually, then, Sue finished Volume 1 while in Florida last month. [...]

([Sue:] “I’ll cut it for you.”)

[...] This is the one Sue Watkins had “picked up on” several years ago; see the notes preceding the last session. I’ve come to think of those data involving Sue and “her” family as cropping up every so often like counterpoint to other themes in this 6th section.)

(Then at 11:21, here presented verbatim:) Now a note: I do not want to get into family variations, but Sue Watkins picked up a variation of the Gramada family of consciousness (the Grunaargh) — quite legitimate, and at the time very good on her part.⁴ People love to make divisions. [...]

(Sue Mullin was a witness.)

[...] Now you may take a break and we shall continue—and (to Sue:) my heartiest wishes to our friend.

(To Sue.) Now I will tell you the full story but at another time, and if you have not already discovered it. [...]

(To Sue.) Now your friend was a jealous leader. [...]

[...] The answers lie within Sue and Bette and Mary Ellen and Natalie and Joel. [...]

(To Sue.) And I thank you for the typing you have done for our friend, Ruburt. [...]

[...] [Some of them are on reincarnation, and I plan to present them when Seth gets into that subject in Dreams.] On October 7, a Sunday, Jane saw for the first time the work Sue Watkins has done on Conversations With Seth, the book she’s writing about the ESP classes Jane used to hold. The project is turning out to be much longer than Sue had thought it would be, and she still has a few chapters to go. [...] Later Sue laughingly admitted that she’d been nervous at first, imagining all kinds of adverse reactions either Jane or I might have—but she’s doing a fine job. [...]

Four days after Sue’s visit we received an enthusiastic letter from an independent motion-picture producer and director in Hollywood, informing us that he’s finally succeeding in his quest for an option to the film rights to Jane’s novel, The Education of Oversoul Seven. [...]

[...] As I reread the book I learned that Jane devotes considerable portions of several chapters to material involving our friend, Sue Watkins — her adventures with dreams, projections, and probable realities — and also refers to her in other chapters. Sue published her two-volume work, Conversations With Seth, in 1980-81; her father died two years later. [...] Ever since she arrived from the West Coast in August, Laurel had wanted to meet Sue, who lives in upstate New York. The three of us finally did meet — a few days after Sue’s mother had died on October 19. Two nights earlier, Sue had had a very strong precognitive dream concerning her mother’s death; she plans to discuss that event in the book she’s writing. Laurel made a card for Sue when we heard about the demise of her mother, and left room inside it for me to write a note. [...]

In more specific terms, I’m organizing this rather short exploration of Jane’s death around these items; a loose chronology surrounding her writing of Seth, Dreams … in 1966-67, and our unsuccessful attempts to sell the book; my acceptance of the survival of the personality after physical death; a waking experience involving my sensing Jane very soon after she had died; a metaphor I created for her death; a dream in which I not only contacted her but gave myself relevant information; another metaphor for Jane’s death; my speculations about communication among entities, whether they’re physical or nonphysical; a letter that could be from the discarnate Jane — one that was sent to me by its recipient, a caring correspondent whom I’ll call Valerie Wood; a note I wrote to Sue Watkins about the death of her mother; some quotations from a published letter of mine; Jane’s notes concerning the relationship we had; and, finally, the poem in which she refers to her nonphysical journeys to come.

Dear Sue:

(To Sue:) You did very well. [...]

(To Sue:) And you be up and about. [...]

[...] We know little about that life; one evening with Sue Watkins, who also lived then, I managed to tune into that existence to some degree via images. [...] Sue was one of my pupils. [...]

[...] Your friend Sue said that there is free action across the board in such cases, and that is an apt description.

[...] Jane said I could take up with Sue — although I doubt if Sue would care to do that.

(To Sue:) Do you have a question, our lady on the blue couch with the brown pigtails? [...]

([Sue:] “Was the dream I had some months ago involving sessions about my shoulder legitimate?”)

(To Sue.) You and this friend of yours over here, I am going to take the two of you together in the dream state and take you on some journeys that will make your head spin and your hearts sing, and I want Ruburt to see these written down, too. [...]

(Long pause at 10:01.) Others have indeed sensed me — Sue [Watkins]⁷ for example — but the relationship there is far different, and it is important for Ruburt that he have clear-cut areas, which I respect.

7. In Session 594 for the Appendix of Seth Speaks, see Sue’s material on how she sensed Jane’s and Seth’s “speeds” — as well as her own.

[...] Sue Watkins remains close (to both of us, by the way), even though she now lives in a small community that’s well over an hour’s travel north of Elmira. [...]

[...] There is, as your friend Sue Watkins said, “constant action across the board.”

[...] That word Sue used — ‘acceleration’ — is a good one….” [...]

[...] And again, it is a story, and though I have never used this term before, in class or in our sessions, and though I do not want our friend over here in the elegant outfit to become angry with me (to Sue), I will tell you that reincarnation, in its own way, is also a parable. [...]