“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

I want to say something about beliefs that became obvious to him today concerning time and “work.” [...] His beliefs about time are important in relationship to his work ideas. [...]

In that system he saw you nearly ten years older than he, and in those terms unsatisfied; so he must work all the harder against time, and cut out everything else. In that system, as he developed it, there was no time for leisurely meals, showers, shopping trips or mundane enjoyments—only the work was important. [...]

[...] He became pursued by time, so that in his world there literally was no time for anything else.

At the same “time” his body kept trying to assert its privileges and natural life, but he saw it as a tool to work. [...] Even his writing time therefore became frenzied. [...]

[...] While everything seems neat and tidy within those specifications, and whole, you operate with brilliant nonchalance in the theater of time and space. Time and space are each the result of psychological properties. (Pause.) When you ask how old is the universe, or how old is the world, then you are taking it for granted that time and space are somehow or other almost absolute qualities. [...]

[...] So is time. The universe did not, then, begin at some specified point in time, or at any particular location in space—for (louder) it is true to say that all of space and all of time appeared simultaneously, and appear simultaneously.

[...] Seth came through several times, delivering beautifully organized little dissertations to Dr. Guy on how he might relax enough to allow the psychic signs that he’s so interested in to come through. [...] We didn’t use one either, and so for the first time in a long while Seth’s material disappeared as rapidly as it was given—an odd experience for us. [...]

[...] You cannot pinpoint “invisible” events, for even as your sophisticated instruments perceive them, they have not met them in the same time scheme. [...]

You have to some extent closed off your creativity by thinking of it in terms of the time you have to give to “your work.” Again, while a certain time is required for any activity as far as artistic inspiration is concerned, there is little correlation, for artistic inspiration is independent of time.

[...] But your idea of specific work time automatically divides that time according to your beliefs from other times when you may be shopping, or doing something else far divorced from work.

(Just before the session Jane told me that Seth could give us what she called The Christ Book at any time. [...] Seth told us we could have more on Jerusalem and related events whenever we want it, or have the time, so presumably the Christ Book idea stems from that. [...]

[...] Your whole concept of work time brings about limitations also. You personally do not think of the dream state as work time, and therefore inhibit very definite inspirations. [...]

[...] Your talk about the time clock got through to him in the past only too well. The amount of time is not important, but his attitude toward it is.

[...] He used to feel that you were accusing him when you said that he did not know what it was to punch a time clock, meaning that he did not have the guts or the ability. At the same time you had not chosen that source either but very briefly. [...]

[...] It had to be scheduled, and even the time within the writing hours was watched so that it was productive. At the same time distractions were minimized, impulses to move away from the desk cut down, and day-dreaming, dream recall, and out-of-bodies became not business, not-work. [...]

If he thinks in terms of doing what he wants to do, even if he assigns time to the pursuits, he is better off than labeling anything work. [...] But do not overdo it, as is his inclination at times when he thinks in terms of absolutes.

We have spoken concerning the relative impossibility of first origins as you consider them, occurring at a particular point in your time. Inward, individualized, aware energy existed before the conception of your time, your time obviously being an interpretation of the spacious present, from which all creation not only originally began but continues in terms of value fulfillment. Without such a development before the conception of your time, indeed, your universe would never have come into existence.

[...] At one time I again had the feeling, also, of a “bridge” or connective of flesh, this time from my left heel to the inside of my right big toe. At the same time I experienced the sensation of having my wrists connected in the same way to my sides, as I lay upon my back. [...] I also experienced my standard thrilling sensation a few times, to a mild degree.)

[...] I have told you that as the dream is only connected by the smallest thread to your time, so also, although it is difficult, you could manage to pinpoint the apparent beginning of a dream in clock time. This time, you know intuitively, has no psychological inner relationship to the dream experience.

(As session time approached Jane had no idea of the material for the session. She told me she “still feels funny” even after all this time, when she hasn’t any idea about the material to come.

[...] But as the word evolution is the title for a fine tale with a little truth in it, and much distortion, so also, must the realities of consciousness sometimes be explained in terms that you can understand and in terms of your own time concepts. So what you understand of reincarnation, and of the time terms involved, is what you have been told so that you could understand it, but it is a very simplified tale, indeed. [...] It seems very difficult for you to understand the fact that you live many realities at one time, simultaneously, and since the time scheme seems to be such a reality to you, the multidimensional aspects of your own consciousness are explained in those terms. [...]

I hate to tell you this, and I cannot follow through in one evening’s session, but the idea of movement and the idea of time are not at all connected in reality. There is motion that has nothing to do with time and nothing to do with movement through space. [...]

[...] I am trapped by the concept of time, but I had the idea of development in reality.”)

[...] What is the meaning of movement outside of the concept of time?”)

In greater terms, seconds and moments do not exist, either, but the reality that is behind time or that you perceive as time, the “outside time” events, are composed of units that also have their own kind of consciousness. They form what appears as time to you, as atoms and molecules form what appears as space to you. [...]

What separates events is not time, but your perception. You perceive events “one at a time.” Time as it appears to you is, instead, a psychic organization of experience. [...]

(“Now, if you had all been really paying attention to what I have been saying for some time about the simultaneous nature of time and existence, then you would have known that the theory of evolution is as beautiful a tale as the theory of biblical creation. [...]

[...] Some life forms are being developed in what you think of as present time. They will not appear physically until you reach your future time. [...]

(At the time Rebellers was published, I was jealous, but it took me some time to learn this. [...]

[...] I was really upset by this time in the session. [...] I did voice some thoughts that I’ve mentioned before: about why, in times of great stress when it’s obvious the organism is in trouble, it doesn’t intuitively override wrong thinking and set itself right so that it can go on about the business of life, etc. [...]

[...] Suffice it to say here that Jane’s own pendulum agreed with it in toto, and we spent a good deal of time discussing it. [...]

(This we did not know.) It was at the time of your illness that he began to conceal his feelings from you, and in a sense to coddle you. [...]

[...] The usual idea of order is greatly concerned with serial time, but spontaneity’s natural order, with its origins outside of time, has “all time to play with.” [...]

[...] (Pause.) In a definite manner of speaking, spontaneity, being apart from time while operating in time, is aware of, say, private abilities before they show themselves in time. [...]

(Wade Alexander and his son Brian visited us for 3/4 of an hour at supper time. [...] This in turn left Jane feeling not quite ready for the session at the usual time. [...]

[...] That spontaneous order shows itself in time, but it is apart from time, in that its origins (underlined) are not physical. [...]

(What did develop was that my boss at work, at 11:50 AM, called me on the phone–he happened to be at the company’s other plant on Elmira’s southside at the time–and asked me to put in more time on the job as a regular routine. [...]

(I like the part-time arrangement I now have at Artistic very much. It gives me time for myself in the afternoons to paint—an arrangement that I have learned is very necessary, even vital, to my well-being both physically and mentally. [...]

(Both of us were busy as session time approached. During the day–Jane’s vacation has another week to run, while mine ended today–Jane had remarked several times that she doubted there would be a session tonight. [...]

[...] The time is an estimate, since I forgot to note down the actual ending time. [...]

[...] Dark and wooded, same time of year. Also had dog with you that other time.

[...] For a short time you wondered, and then the incident was forgotten. As a matter of fact, at that same time your brother Loren was looking out of your father’s shop, and he saw nothing.

[...] At the same time she is definitely aware of a feeling of impatience on Seth’s part. The board, she states, is much too slow a medium to use at times; and even my writing, fast as it is, is sometimes too slow.

Nevertheless at such times the old wounds are opened without the present personality’s understanding or awareness. [...]

Give us time here. I will at your request, at any time, give you the details of these lives. [...]

[...] The part-time job at the gallery for a while became a controlling factor, preventing him from dealing with the creative self on a full-time basis.

Give us time. [...] When he began to realize this the inner plan had already been put into effect, and at the time of worst symptoms he literally could not withdraw quickly. [...]

What you have now is a residue in the body of conflict representing mental conflict, when at the same time the muscles are being given signals to let go completely, and also signals to tense, signals of control. [...] Give us time. [...]

(9:40.) Give us time … You are also viewing your solar system through your own time perspective, which is relative. You “look backward into time,” you say, when you stare outward into the universe. [...] You will never meet them in your exterior reality, however, for you are not focused in the time period of their existence. [...]

[...] Time and space need not be connected, however — that is, the attractions that exist between a reality and any given probability cluster may have nothing to do with time and space at all. [...] You imagine your universe as extending outward in space (and backwards in time). [...]

“Their time measurements, based on camouflage [physical information] to begin with, are almost riotously inadequate and bound to give distortive data, since the universe simply cannot be measured in those terms. The universe was not created at any particular time, but neither is it expanding into nowhere like an inflated balloon that grows forever larger — at least not along the lines now being considered. The expansion is an illusion, based among other things upon inadequate time measurements, and cause-and-effect theories; and yet in some manners the universe could be said to be expanding, but with entirely different connotations than are usually used.”

Give us time … There are, again, inner coordinates having to do with the inner behavior of electrons. [...] The coordinates that link you with others who are more or less of your kind have to do with psychic and psychological intersections that result in a like space-time framework.

They do present difficulties, however, and are the cause of the panicky emotions he feels at times. [...] Certain muscles relax for the first time in recent times, while others might momentarily contract so that balance is maintained—so the body is in a state of constant change. [...]

(Now Jane agreed with all of this at the time, but later while painting I wondered whether I’d been too vehement in what I’d said. [...] But at this time in these sessions we’ve got to get all the new data we can to help in our own hassles.

It is very important that Framework 2 be remembered, that overall suggestions be creative while open (intently), rather say than at this time too closed-ended. [...] The entire arena of public endeavor brings up questions about the differences between spontaneous and controlled behavior, of course (long pause)—an issue we will go into another time, but thoroughly. [...]

[...] Suddenly it came to me that she had it backwards—that her body didn’t need any additional trust, that it was perfectly willing to do her bidding at any time, including healing itself. [...]

[...] Land changes and alterations of species are conditions brought about in line with overall patterns that involve all species, or land and water masses, at any given “time.” [...] They maintain the body’s structure in your poised time only by manipulating themselves in a rich medium of probabilities. There is a constant give-and-take of communication between the cell as you know it in present time, and the cell as it “was” in the past, or “will be.”

[...] You are your selves in time, then, because of the selves that exist before and after you in time. [...] Your desires go out from you in time, but in all directions. [...]

[...] I have said that evolution does not exist as you think of it, in any kind of one-line, ape-to-man time sequence.^l No other species developed in that manner, either. [...] Your time perception shows you but one slice of the whole cake, for instance.

In thinking in terms of consecutive time, however, evolution does not march from the past into the future. [...] Both above and below your usual conscious focus, then, time is experienced in an entirely different fashion, and is constantly manipulated,³ as physically you manipulate matter.

[...] Dreams can provide you with experience that in a manner of speaking, at least, is not encountered in time. The dream itself is recorded by the brain’s time sequences, but in the dream itself there is a duration of time “that is timeless.”

[...] Obviously I am simplifying, since you can eat an orange, watch television, scratch your foot, and yell at the dog — all more or less at the same time. You cannot, however, be in Boston and San Francisco at the same time, or be 21 years of age and 11 at the same time.

The body obviously must react in your official present; hence the brain neatly keeps its physical time sequences with spaced neural responses. The entire package of physical reality is dependent upon the senses’ data being timed — synchronized — giving the body an opportunity for precise action. [...]

Take all the time you want to with this. [...] Again, do this playfully, and take your time. [...]

(Jane has not been experimenting with psychological time since Seth suggested she stop at the time of her prolonged trance state of March 15.

Your reactions at such times are not good for yourself, and your reactions are not good at such times for the conditions which bring them about. [...]

[...] At no time however did I blame a virus, feeling that the real cause was psychic, thus permitting the virus to come to the fore. [...] As time passed, and while I pored over several daily New York City newspapers plus Elmira’s daily paper, I came to realize to a small extent that poor expectations on my part had much to do with my falling ill.

There was a possibility at one time, for a particular period of time, when for various reasons your Miss Callahan was in danger of falling down the front flight of stairs. [...]

Your personality is truly multidimensional, and after you have been here for some time, you will realize what the words multi-dimensional really mean, for they mean that you are not imprisoned within time, as you know it, in any way. And your reincarnated selves, or personalities, are not imprisoned in their time, as you think of time. [...]

Now, each personality is free and you are never imprisoned within time. [...] Time has open ends in all directions or such a thing as probabilities would not exist. [...]

[...] Now, psychological time is your best method for perceiving these actualities. [...] A web works to help you manipulate in a world of space and time which is, indeed, as nebulous and as precarious, and as delicate, as any spider’s web, and hangs indeed in as precarious a balance. [...]

(Following a discussion of reincarnation, probable selves and time. [...]

(11:31.) This is the first time you have decided to take time out to write. [...] In creative time one adds to the other.

Because of the personal material given in late sessions, Ruburt has the habit of worrying—protecting the idea of time and ability as described, so that in one day he will worry about what distractions may arise the next day, and this puts him on guard. [...]

[...] I thought I was close to losing it at the time. [...]

[...] This is, on your part, a reflection of those ideas in which time is something to be protected first of all. [...]

When you have completed a life then it is as if you have finished a living portrait of yourself, using the mediums of space and time. [...] The memories and realities within that portrait are yours to learn from and to use as a model for other such living portraits in time and space.

You cannot say to yourself twenty times a day “There is no peace,’’ and at the same time expect to find some, with any possibility of achieving anything but conflict. [...]

[...] Some paint living portraits of themselves in peaceful times and places. [...]

[...] Some of the Old Masters were adept at painting scenes of violence, warfare, sagas, with dark and dreary atmospheres, yet each so filled at the same time with life and vitality that the canvases themselves seemed alive. [...]