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For the same reason you are also obsessed with the idea of cause and effect, with the illusion of successive time bringing forth the other. Here we have two of your most basic idea camouflage structures: your conception of time as a succession, and your idea of cause and effect.

Some of this material will take some getting used to but I wanted to give it to you now; and perhaps you will see how important the use of psychological time can be to you. [...] There is more I will say later along these lines, but your experience with psychological time will to some degree help you to see through the walls of past and future. [...]

Any time, any one time, that you can behave in a manner that suggests that one of your cherished limited laws of the universe does not exist, then you can be certain that the so-called law does not exist, at least not in any basic manner.

In your terms, the rate at which you discover the facets and realities of the spacious present becomes your camouflage time. [...]

[...] At times it will agree with our predictions and our interpretations. At times it will not agree with our interpretation of what it calls a valid prediction. And at times it will state that a prediction is valid, when we can see nothing during the following day’s events to tie to the prediction.)

[...] The pendulum also advised her against a trip to New York City at this time. [...] The upshot of all this was that by session time we had about decided to sign the contact.

[...] She drank some water, remarking that as far as she could remember this was the first time she had ever so interrupted a session. [...]

The Seth book will be finished at the correct time.

[...] Ruburt should write in a personal diary if he prefers, but write his feelings several times a week. A half-hour at a time is fine, plus the effort to express any normally negative feelings at once.

[...] As you know, it does no good to worry about the time you may sometimes feel was “wasted” (in quotes) in the past. Great damage can result however by projecting such feelings of time waste into the future.

At one time when communication was poor, he tried to use your moments of tenderness as opportunities to tell you his worries. It seemed to him then (underlined) the only time. [...]

Now, because it seemed to you for so long that you could not move freely in your own life, that you did not paint full time, you got in the habit of automatically viewing all change as negative. [...]

[...] Simply to stretch your imagination: When you look at your photograph, imagine that you are a representative of a species, caught there in just that particular pose, and that the frame of the photograph represents, now, “a cage of time.” You, from the outside looking down at the photograph, are now outside of that cage of time in which your specimen was placed. [...] If you hold that feeling, then the element of time becomes as real as any of the other objects within the photograph. Though unseen, time is the frame.

[...] The last time she’d done this had been early on March 4; her material then was on parallel man, alternate man, and probable man; Seth mentioned it that same evening in the 687th session, and it furnished the basis for Section 2 of this volume. [...]

[...] In one way both concepts are on the same level, and deal with realities in consecutive time sequences. [...]

(“A photograph of a given person represents one experienced probable identity, focused in a recognized time sequence. [...]

[...] It did not appear constructed, that is in constructed form, for a long period of physical time however, and we have discussed psychological time as being part of what I will call for now an inner time sense.

This human self-consciousness existed in psychological time and in inner time long before you as a species constructed it in terms of your particular camouflage patterns. [...]

This was in Belgium—and I will not be tricked, my dear Joseph—it was in Belgium in 1632, and our Philip in a rather sensational case for the times actually brought this husband to a village trial, a particularly unusual occurrence at that time. [...]

[...] The first concerned condensed time; that is, in what may be a split second to the entity, the incarnated personality will experience a time duration of say, 70 years. [...]

When you intend to leave in the middle of a session, there is hardly time for me to light into you adequately, or to answer the questions that I think we could answer. [...] Indeed, I have been harsh with no one, though I have been tempted at times. And I am always hampered both by time and because of mechanical difficulties, and because we must be so still and silent.

[...] If you have time we shall explain this evening. If not we shall explain another time.

[...] This places it in time a couple of weeks before we saw John last time, during the Binghamton meeting affair. [...]

[...] Jane’s eyes had, I believe, opened briefly a few times; her face was turning more toward John much of the time here. [...]

[...] Psychologists, generally speaking, have not yet accepted the theories of your own physicists, and they continue to consider time as a series of moments. The inverted time system recognizes the actual nature of time. [...]

[...] This spring will be the time. [...] It will begin about the time of his own birth date, another reason why birth symbolism was used.

I was disappointed, naturally, but again I sent the dream manuscript out; this time to Prentice-Hall, on April 2, 1968. On April 12, as I did psy-time, I received a strong impression that Prentice would give me a contract if I revised the book rather drastically. [...]

[...] Seth says no — that time is being changed at each point. It’s impossible to speak of time and precognition without considering probabilities. [...]

[...] The same applied to your own creative abilities, where for some time a divergence from a literal pictorial illustration was felt to be wrong, or off. Some other personal information that I gave you concerning your relationship with your father this time also fits in here.

[...] Let us get to the details in our time. You died, I believe, shortly after the time of Christ—that is, somewhere between 35 and 50 AD.

[...] Now at times his own overly-conscientious portions would agree quite heartily with Nebene’s dictates. [...] They would often seem so different from your own actions at a given time that he became highly confused, and distrusted his own reactions.

[...] Before, they seemed to have an energy of their own, almost at times not a part of you, and Nebene experienced his own creativity as equally apart from him at times.

Now: Physically your body has a stance in space and time. [...] Let us call primary experience that which exists immediately in sense terms in your moment of time — the contact of body with environment. [...]

At the levels with which we are concerned, the body must primarily react to present, immediate, primary existence in space and time. [...] But the body depends on the conscious mind to give it a clear assessment of precise conditions of the space and time it occupies. [...]

[...] That primary sense data, while pinpointed in the present, providing you with the necessary stance in time, still can open up to you the timelessness from which all time emerges, can bring you intuitive intimations, hinting at the true nature of the ever-present coming-to-be of the universe.

[...] For many well-intentioned artists, with the best of intentions, produce at times shoddy works of art, all the more disappointing and deplorable to them because of the initial goodness of their intent.

You would not have left your parents so far behind at that time, he felt, except on his behalf. [...] He has therefore never pushed you really to make a change since that time, and has pushed such ideas away from him, although he feels that the longer you stay at Artistic the more unhappy you will be; and there is also in him, and in you, a fear of making a move in physical terms. [...]

[...] You thought they bought you time. [...] Ruburt’s symptoms you thought gave you both time. [...]

[...] Seth returned almost at once, after I said that I wasn’t interested in solving our problems by simply changing jobs for more money – the problem was that I wanted time to paint, etc., and time for Jane to write.)

Now in your discussion you released some emotions, and this is beneficial, but you have not discussed such problems together in some time. [...]

(Trying psychological time on Wednesday, 6/24, 8:00 PM, I had no results. On the same day at 7:30 PM during psychological time, Jane once again heard within the static sound described on page 167. At the time she was thinking about calling the owner of the gallery where she works on business this coming Friday. [...]

(At the exact time the session was due Monday, Jane, Del, Midge and I were visiting our landlord and his wife on their farm in Pine City. [...] She gave none; later Jane said she hadn’t the slightest inkling of Seth’s presence as session time passed. [...]

[...] As session time arrived our cat Willy also became quite active. [...] Willy rushed several of them, even climbing up the screens at times.

However, they were not by any means identical, either in space, time, or physical bulk. Quite literally the cat’s bug was larger and heavier in bulk, existed longer in his—that is the cat’s—time, and also took up more space.

[...] She’d just finished reading the last 25 of the 48 fan letters that had arrived from our publisher this noon; she’d wanted a little time to relax and write a few notes before the session. [...] She’s answering most of the mail herself these days, since I don’t have the time to help her.)

What was needed was a highly focused, precisely tuned physical self that could operate efficiently in a space and time scheme that was being formed along with physical creatures—a self, however, that in one way or another must be supported by realms of information and knowledge of a kind that was basically independent of time and space. [...]

(All with emphatic rhythm:) The inner self was too aware of its own multidimensionality, so in your terms it gave psychological birth to itself through the body in space and time. [...] That portion of the self is the portion you recognize as your usual conscious self, alive within the scheme of seasons, aware within the designs of time, caught transfixed in moments of brilliant awareness, with civilizations that seem to come and go. [...]

(The weather continues to be unseasonably warm for this time of year, with the ground still bare. [...]

[...] In those terms, the physical events that you perceive or experience can be compared to “psychological objects” that appear to exist with a physical concreteness in space and time. Such events usually seem to begin somewhere in space and time, and clearly end there as well.

In your terms, your father’s mother is ready to enter time again. Your father was pointing you out to her, and acquainting her with other such living members of the family as well, who are still in time. [...]

(The dream suggests numerous subjects that Seth didn’t go into, and that I’ll leave for the reader to consider: reincarnation, the shifting of ages and the independence of memory from time in the dream state, and so forth. I do have a few clear conscious memories of Grandmother Butts; the last time I saw her she was ill, a few months before her death 52 years ago. [...]

In the same way you experience a birthday party, an automobile accident, a bridge game, or any psychological event as psychologically solid, with a smooth experienced surface that holds together in space and time. [...]

For now, I recommend a definite certain amount of time on a regular basis. [...] Later you will not need the time, per se. [...]

[...] Anything could be taken from him at any time. [...]

[...] (Pause.) Give us time… He did not feel that any love was his by right, yours or anyone else’s: therefore he did not feel worthy of it, and in the face of any difficulty between you he suspected it, thought then that you no longer loved him.

The backed-up feelings helped bring about the rigidity over a period of time. [...]

2. See the material on Seth’s concept of simultaneous time as given in the concluding notes for Session 724. [...] Seth: “While I am not affected by time on your plane, I am affected by something resembling time on my plane … It is therefore still a reality of some kind to me.” [...]

To Seth’s remarks in that early session I’d now like to add what he said a decade later in our time. [...] We do not exist in any time framework as you know it. [...] We are quite aware of the time situations within other systems, however, and we must take them into account in our communications. [...]

In your terms I see not only greater chunks of time than you do, but I can to some considerable extent view the probable actualizations of events and times.

Now: In a way, it is quite difficult to tell you what I have been doing with my time (humorously emphatic) while I have been involved in the production of “Unknown” Reality — and therefore, to some extent at least, inclined toward your time.²

Illnesses must be treated primarily however by changing the basic mental habits, for unless this is done the trouble will erupt time and time again in different guises. [...]

[...] This is the first time such a situation has developed in some time. [...]

[...] We have taken his ego into consideration at all times, so that he can consciously assimilate what he has learned, as is preferable. At times this may mean that we progress slowly, but the progression is steady and firm.

(“And a look out” is interesting to us, because I spent some time for a couple of days looking out our back motel room window, studying this particular view before finally taking a picture of it. This involved checking the appearance of the marsh grass at various times of the day to see when the light would be best, then waiting for a sunny day to increase contrast, etc.

As I have mentioned many times, cellular comprehension deals with probabilities and encompasses future and past, so at that level of activity time as you understand it does not exist. [...] The psyche — at the other end of the scale, so to speak — is also free of time. [...]

The next time you find yourself in the middle of a like experience, with associations flowing freely, then become more aware of what you are doing. [...] You will see that the events will not necessarily be structured according to usual time, but according to emotional content.

(9:40.) The next time an opportunity arises, and you recognize the presence of a fairly strong emotion in yourself, then let your associations flow. Events and images will spring to mind in an out-of-time context. [...]

(9:20.) First of all, these other organizations do not deal primarily with time at all, but with the emotions and associative processes. [...]

time since he’d had his bypass heart surgery. [...] Indeed, today was the first day in some time—at least a number of days—when I hadn’t noticed some sort of chest symptoms of some degree, light or stronger. [...]

[...] The symptoms, rather strong at times, bothered me through the afternoon, and prevented me from napping comfortably. I finally ended up rereading a couple of the private sessions on the chest difficulty, and the trouble seemed to largely abate itself by the time we were eating supper.

[...] When JA examined me I got a very pleasant surprise, for he told me that my eyes had improved over last time, and that they were now bothering me because my present glasses were getting to be too strong. [...]

(Moreover, when JA tested me for glaucoma, my eye pressures checked out at 17 for the left and l6 for the right—a point or so better than last time, and midway in the normal range which ends at 25. [...]

At one time you and the child were also brothers. He was impatient with you at times for he remembered you as a companion in male pursuits, and bitterly resented your femininity.

[...] You were from a side of the family with French connections and at that time flighty, easily upset, with some ability as a musician in piano, but without the discipline or drive to use the ability,

[...] You never forgave yourself, and now in your first reincarnation as a woman since that time, you decided to be the vehicle through which he could enter physical reality again, and so became his mother in physical terms.

[...] Your uncle did not blame you for the accident at the time. [...]

[...] Jane has met her just three times during the eleven years we have been married. The third time was at the funeral of my Aunt Ella on August 8,1965, in Wellsburg, NY. Thus the most recent time that Jane had a chance to speak at length to Aunt Mabel involved the funeral of a member of the Butts family. [...] We have noticed this curious time jump before in the envelope experiments, backwards as it were. [...]

[...] This was the first time Jane met Aunt Mabel. Thus Aunt Mabel was involved with funerals and related activities on two out of the three occasions that Jane has spoken with her; these two occasions being the times when Jane could exchange more than greetings with her, also. [...]

[...] You see, there are times when it would not be beneficial for us to miss sessions, and there are other times when this is quite legitimate. [...]

It is of course because of your highly distorted ideas of time that you persist in projecting antiquated concepts of past, present and future outward into explorations of your universe. [...]