“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

[...] “Imagine—atonement, self-punishment for things learned more than 40 years ago. [...]

[...] He does not need to punish himself in any way for any actions or any omissions in that relationship. [...]

There is in other words no need for you to punish the organs of your body that were involved in that birth.

[...] In this line of beliefs he was able to do anything — cure mankind’s ills if he chose, or withhold such knowledge from the world to punish it. [...]

The mother had been particularly given to the mutilation of prisoners, and hence chose the physical condition finally—not, now, as punishment, but to understand the experience—and to develop abilities under those conditions.

[...] Because while you see the male as godlike, you also see him as one who gives out punishment, and as unreasoning and cruel. [...]

[...] There is no punishment involved. [...]

[...] Not in terms of punishment, however, but in terms of understanding. [...]

[...] It saw a good God, a just savior, who nevertheless never thought twice about sending down death and destruction as punishment for sin. [...]

[...] Punishment simply adds to the child’s problem. [...]

[...] If you agree that violence is power then you will punish the criminal with great vindictiveness, for you will see life as a power struggle, and will concentrate upon the acts of violence about which you read. [...]

[...] Many religious dogmas consider such conditions, again, the result of a god’s punishment. [...]

[...] Why should nature punish anyone if it doesn’t punish anything? The realities of nirvana and karma are not ones that Jane and I want to create.

(12:02.) Many in the religious community said that the flood was the will of God at that level, or that people were being punished for their transgressions. [...]

Some people believe that they must be punished, and so they seek [out] unfortunate circumstances. [...]

[...] Then, beautifully clear, with rich humor, came the answering mental message: “Are you gluttons for punishment?”

This expectation of yours, this fear of making money, is a strong element in your psychological makeup, and beside the reasons already given, there is a subconscious need to punish your mother. [...]

[...] Within your system, to kill is obviously a moral crime, but to kill another in punishment only compounds the original error. [...]

[...] An avalanche or a flood or an earthquake will not be seen as a natural act of the earth’s natural creativity, but instead as a punishment from God for sin.

Nor does karma say anything about an eye for an eye, nor is there in karma any suggestion of punishment. [...]

[...] In your case, Joseph, and I have said this many times, you overcompensate now for past, shall I say fleshiness, by a most unnecessary esthetic and self-punishing attitude. [...]