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The subconscious, and in fact all portions of the self with the exception of the ego, are capable of assimilating a wider area, so to speak, of action. Therefore to these other portions of the self, time has a much different essence than it has for the ego. The ego is indeed many things. It can be defined in relationship to many other aspects of reality. In relationship to action, and moment points, the ego is indeed that portion of the self which stands at the apex of the moment point, and is limited by the moment point. The ego is in this context the portion of the self which is utterly focused upon, and imprisoned by, the moment point.

Now. Each moment point is a field or dimension. You perceive certain very limited aspects of a given number of such moment points. The same moment points may simultaneously be experienced in an entirely different fashion, and to a different set of perceptions. These moment points would appear quite different than they appear to you.

We are dealing here principally, and in the main, with the essence of action, and essentially all apparent divisions are arbitrary for the sake of explanation. The moment point is in itself arbitrary, an artificial division. As we have said, the moment point for you is actually composed of the amount of action which you are capable of assimilating within your present framework, for the moment point is indeed a portion of the spacious present.

The subconscious, reaching outward, reaches also inward. For while there is no real past or present or future within the spacious present, there is indeed an infinity of inward and outward; and again, of actions within actions, and there is no end to these actions for they are self-generating. The other portions of the inner self reach then even further in all directions, and they therefore envelop many moment points. To many portions of the inner self then, what you would call a moment would correspond to an almost limitless number of moments, for even physical time has no meaning without experience without action.

Now give us a moment.

(This concerns my recent suggestions to Jane that she concentrate upon the beauty and pleasure of the moment; even when she is performing a difficult task, or finds herself brooding, etc. [...]

(In other words, when I tell her to live in the pleasurable aspects of a moment, I don’t mean for her to use this as a method of sweeping unpleasantness under the rug, etc.)

[...] You can help him to relax in the moment as you did last evening by simple reminders and by play.

[...] Nevertheless when you become overly concerned with the seeming shortness or lack of time, it is almost always because you have fallen back to conventional ideas: you have only so many moments in a day. But the conventional version says, really, that those are surface moments; that you, say, run from one to the next, as if time were a moving sidewalk with the past moment vanishing forever. [...]

[...] A moment’s insight, for example—a moment’s—might carry you in a flash where your intellect alone could not travel in years.

[...] Ruburt in one moment is often mulling over and mentally arranging his time. Figuring out how he will get such-and-such done an hour or two hours from then—so he foreshortens the moment, in that it becomes far less full than it is capable of being for him.

No one can steal your time, or in any given moment prevent you from using your creativity. [...]

Now the moment points could also represent various personalities belonging to the entity, portions of its own consciousness that it sends upon the journeys of exploration and discovery. [...] The boundaries of the entity would be imaginary, taking in as many moment points as the entity felt it could handle. [...]

[...] Give us a moment. [...]

[...] Let these represent moment points. [...]

[...] This traveling-through obviously changes the nature of the moment points. [...]

4. Suppose further that the next card below represents the same two-dimensional being a moment earlier. And the next one up represents the same being a moment later. Thus each card is, in fact, a moment of the life of the being and the progressive change represents growth. [...]

3. Suppose now that one card in the stack represents a living, intelligent, two-dimensional being at some moment in time. [...]

[...] In its moment-to-moment reactions, the body consciousness is, you might say, “literal-minded.” [...] The symbols are the realm in which interpretations are made, but the body must always react moment by moment at that level of activity, irregardless of a vast knowledge of probabilities. [...]

[...] With the writing I sought to make sense of everything at least intellectually, but for the moment at least, I thought, this left untouched what seemed to be the more powerful emotional tangle of beliefs. [...]

[...] If there is a large body of beliefs, however, that dampen those bodily purposes, that encourage timidity rather than courage, promote fear rather than faith, then you run into difficulty—particularly if the grounds for those beliefs are not present in any given moment. [...]

[...] The body senses your fear, looks for the source in the immediate environment of the moment so that it can suitably react to protect you—but it senses no immediate difficulty. [...]

We start once more with our moment point. For now this moment point which appears within your physical universe is but a small materialization of larger portions of the spacious present. In the dreaming state, when the ego is released from its idea of time as a series of moments, then other portions of the self can travel through these moment points, and you have here a journey through depths that have nothing to do with your (underline your) concept of time or space.

[...] If you will recall our early sessions dealing with value fulfillment, let us now consider what I prefer to call a moment point. This moment point, as you know, refers to any given present instant. If you are thinking in terms of Dunne’s theories, then start out with this moment point as it is seen in time one by self one.

The ego can perceive only certain portions of any given moment point or present instant, and it sees the moment point indeed as if it were one of a series of lights that approaches the ego from one side, and passes him by on the other side. The ego perceives this moment point, then, very much as if it were a flat cardboard-like object which comes, is flashed before him, and disappears.

(See the following sessions for details on moment points: 149, 150, 151, 152.)

Give us a moment.... The creative artist can be in somewhat of a quandary, according to his beliefs, for he wants to preserve the precious moment, the fleeting thought, the daffodils, the perceived insights. At the same time he often feels the need to stand apart from life, from the fleeting thoughts, the daffodils or the insight, so that he will not be lost completely in the moment, but able to form almost a second self with a larger viewpoint, who can then more clearly examine and understand the thought, the moment, or the insight.

(9:50.) Most artists, painters now, are lost, so to speak, in the moment or moments of the painting’s creation. [...] Most artist, painters, do not feel the need, then, to “later” examine the moments of creativity themselves, nor to form still another subjective platform from which to examine the creative process.

Give us a moment.... [...]

[...] For most people do not try that hard to preserve the living moment, or to understand it, while they are still involved with time’s physical package. [...]

[...] The moment point on the one hand is of course a minute division of action. [...] As you probe into any given moment point, you automatically become a part of it and change it accordingly as it makes its impressions upon you. [...]

[...] Moment points are indeed composed of action, action experiencing itself. [...]

[...] Action divides itself into various selves, and then explores the moment points of experience, for each new self is indeed a new action, an original act.

[...] Moment points have a structure, electromagnetically.

A certain portion of physical growth, in terms of a series of physical moments, is therefore necessary for value fulfillment to show itself within a physical organism. Within the dream field and within many other systems, this series of moments is unknown. [...] You experience action then as if you were moving along a single line, each dot on the line representing a moment of your time. But at the imaginary point on your line that represents any given moment, action moves out in all directions. From the standpoint of that moment point, you could imagine action forming an imaginary circle with that point as an apex. But this happens at the point of every moment.

But these developments, nevertheless, are the results of actions that occur in many perspectives at once, and not developments that occur as within the physical system, through actions that happen in a series seemingly strung out moment after moment.

[...] But structure is not dependent upon matter as in the physical universe, and the motion of molecules is more spontaneous, and an almost unbelievable depth of experience is possible within what would seem to you a fraction of a moment.

[...] In the dream universe, in all systems of such nature, development is achieved not by traveling your single line, but by delving into that point that you call a moment. [...]

Within what you call one moment, many such perceptions flash through to affect any given individual. [...] My idea of a moment point is only an approximation of your physical moment. [...] A moment point is a range of action.

[...] A moment point basically consists not of any particular given time division, but is within your system a convenient term that expresses or represents the range of reality that can be conveniently embraced without undue strain.

Give me a moment. [...]

[...] Give us a moment. [...]

[...] If you will forgive me, I will for a moment continue our discussion, or if you prefer monologue.

Now give us a moment, for overpopulated Chicago.

In the very next session for Volume 1, which Jane gave two days later, Seth stated: “There are systems in which a moment, from your standpoint, is made to endure for the life of a universe. I do not mean that a moment is simply stretched, or that time is slowed down alone, but that all the experiences possible within a moment become realities within that framework.”

[...] But between the moments that you know, and neurologically accept, there are other kinds of moments, if you prefer, other versions of time, and other kinds of accomplishments and fulfillments that are not dependent upon your usual ideas of, say, growth through time.³

3. Seth’s material in this paragraph reminded me at once of Jane’s own early, intuitive concept of the moment point. [...] I wrote that at the age of 25, nine years before initiating the sessions, Jane expressed the moment point in her poem, “More Than Men.” [...]

[...] Give us a moment for the heading.

[...] I suggest you speak with Ruburt for a few moments daily because of the combined nature of your energies, so for that period, however brief, concentrate upon the fact that the new beliefs are, even in those moments, taking hold.

[...] I suggest that you hear his morning as well as evening suggestions, and that you take a few moments, perhaps no more than 5 a day, to impress upon him the fact that these new beliefs can be inserted in place of the old, and will bear results. [...]

Give us a moment. [...]

Concentrate upon the present moment — but more, concentrate upon the most pleasant aspects of the present moment. If that moment has distracting, unfavorable aspects, then resolutely bring into your mind whatever images delight or please you at the moment. [...]

[...] Tell yourself you can worry another time if you want to — but for the moment you will not be concerned about the past or the future.

[...] I’ve often had the feeling that Seth’s material parallels Jane’s own situation, whatever that may be at that moment. [...]

Give us a moment.... [...] Give us a moment. [...]

(12:09.) Give us another moment.... [...]

(A pause lasting almost two minutes, starting at 11:12.) Give us a moment … There are alternate realities, and these exist only because of the nature of probabilities. Now give us a moment …

Give us a moment … We have been using Ruburt and Joseph’s private experience here. [...]

Give us a moment … Remember, in this analogy the various children represent your ancestors, yourself, and your own children. [...]

Now give us a moment … End of dictation.

—and give us a moment with this, for there are several issues involved. [...]

[...] Now give us a moment. [...]

[...] Now give us a moment. [...]

[...] Now we will take up the dog’s death later, but give us a moment. [...]

(Jane’s pages are with her Aspects II manuscript at the moment, and may be incorporated in that book. [...]

Now: give us a moment, and we will do this in our own way.

(9:57.) Give us a moment.... [...]

(10:02.) Give us a moment.... [...]

(11:44.) Give us a moment, and shortly we will end. [...]

Give us a moment.... [...]

Give us a moment.... [...]

(12:02.) Rest your hand and give us a moment....