“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

I would like to speak on some of the topics that were discussed in our last session. If you recall, I said that thoughts and also emotions existed as electric actions, and once initiated are then in independent existence. That is, they are actualities apart and independent from their point of subjective origin.

We must go much further into this particular subject. Nevertheless it must be clearly understood that thoughts and emotions are actualities in themselves, that directly work upon the physical mechanism. Any thought or emotion is bound to directly affect the physical body. Because thoughts and emotions, as electrical actualities, are independent from their subjective point of origin, a given thought or emotion, initiated by an individual, may be rejected by him and cast out. If the thought or emotion is similar to those usually accepted, then this will take time, for new electrical patterns must be set up. But an idea, thought or emotion so rejected still has independent actuality, and may be attracted to the emotional climate of another.

They are brought into existence in a subjective manner, but they then are independent action, and as such may continue to exist in duration within the physical field, according to their original electric potential. In turn these thoughts or emotions, as electric actions, can affect other actions; and influence patterns can be set up, and are set up. The subjective habits of individuals are largely responsible for their own attractions to various types of such electric actions, and here indeed like attracts like.

The emotional climate, though intangible, is intimately known by each individual as it exists within himself, and it is the best indication of his physical condition, for thoughts and emotions as independent electrical actions have great influence directly upon the physical mechanism, acting indeed as electric storms which flash through the entire nervous system; or as great stabilizers as the case may be, and with of course many middle varieities of influence.

[...] And let them form a foundation upon which you can climb to find your own reality and your own existence that is in itself independent, both of my words and even of the room in which now your bodies sit, for that independent inner self wanders through all existences that you have known, in your terms, has a wisdom and knowledge that you can use. [...]

Now you may each interpret your experiences in your own way but feel the independence of yourself from this room and from this time and from this existence. [...]

[...] And within this energy have you your independent existence. [...]

[...] He was more used to an independence of motion, and greater leeway in using his own judgment. The conflict arises because he tries to balance this, which grates against his grain, with the hope of, or against the hope of, future possibilities of gaining more independence, and using creative abilities in teaching the children’s classes.

In the past he stayed at the gallery despite some natural disadvantages, because of the independence which he enjoyed there, because of the commitment mentioned earlier, and because of innate interest in paintings which surrounded him. But the fair amount of independence allowed was the main point.

[...] Ruburt subconsciously wanted more money to make up for the lack of independence, or rather the taking away of independence. [...]

[...] Ruburt did have a larger measure of independence at the gallery until very recently, and it is this more than anything which causes the difficulty.

[...] Nevertheless both Ruburt and the woman who transcribed the notes are unusually independent, and women will resent independence in other women, though they appreciate the same quality in a man.

What they fear is that the responsibilities of independence will be thrust upon them. Philip’s most personal inner image, the primary inner image, is of a single, free, independent male.

This same originality and independence that made him an extraordinary salesman, will operate even more effectively if he is in a higher position of responsibility. [...]

[...] Nevertheless, they know well the independence that is the basis of your value to them. [...]

[...] A strong inclination to go ahead independently with his ideas, balanced by the desire to find security within the system, and the fear to leave it. [...] and if he cut loose he would be too panic-stricken to be an independent thinker leading to a dilemma...which you reached just after 30 in this life.... [...]

[...] A strong inclination to go ahead independently with his ideas, balanced by the desire to find security within the system, and the fear to leave it. His intellectual freedom, he feels, exists only so long as it is cushioned by the feeling of security of the organization—and if he cut loose he would be too panic-stricken to be an independent thinker, leading to a dilemma which you reached just after 30 in this life. [...]

Egotistically you make arbitrary designations of necessity, perceiving only portions of any given action; again, the ego attempting to separate itself from overall action, and to see itself as an entirely independent structure.

[...] In paranormal instances you change your focus largely, throwing it into the seemingly independent event. [...]

[...] Remember also in your terms that the seemingly independent perceived event and its nature is changed and altered by your own perception of it.

Any physical perception is actually an action response at a psychic level to thoughts and emotions, and these exist independently of their physical counterparts. [...]

[...] In this electrical actuality they then exist independently of the dreamer, although he still applies the dream to himself. [...]

Personal identity, the basic “I”, is a product of the subconscious, and as such it exists as an actuality within the electric field; because of this it is basically independent of the physical field, held to it mainly by the ego. [...]

The breath of life, so to speak, is breathed into the ego by the inner self, but from that point on the ego is independent.

[...] It is, the pattern is, then independent of the physical system, while residing within it. [...]

Organized religion professes to hold the opposite idea, that man’s identity is independent of physical matter—after death. It often looks askance, however, at any investigations that might show man taking advantage of that independence now. While it preaches the survival of the soul, it is suspiciously uninterested in studying cases in which there seems to be communication between the quick and the “dead.”

[...] Suppose in fact that Seth is correct: we only inhabit the flesh, existing within it but independent of it?

If so, how independent would he be? [...]

[...] He is simply himself—which may, after all, be the badge of his own independent existence.

[...] All the personalities within it are independent, and survive as themselves, yet it is only part of a larger identity—which is to say that it itself is within the sphere of another psychological organization system or gestalt.

[...] You are independent as far as the actions you choose to take. [...]

[...] There are lesser, so to speak, personalities within every dominant physical personality, and lesser identities quite independent within each personal system. [...]

[...] There is instead not a working arrangement between various portions of one personality, but a working arrangement among many quite independent personalities. [...]

[...] However, he believed that we were divergent portions of a medium’s consciousness, that had gained relative independence.

I am utterly independent of Jane in any terms that have practical meaning in generally held concepts of personality. [...]

These selves are each completely independent from the other, making their own decisions as individuals, as in the most precise meaning you can apply to that term. [...]

Was fragment of his own entity, a past personality regaining momentary independence on visual plane. [...]

[...] (Jane dictates:) The entity gives the fragment independent life, then the entity more or less forgets them. [...]

[...] Fragments of another sort, called personality fragments, operate independently, though under the auspices of the entity.

[...] Yet in this state the independence of the various reincarnated selves is not diminished. [...]

There is even a certain feedback system that operates here, and yet you must understand that all of these other identities are independent and fully individual. [...]

[...] Again, this does not mean that the portions are not independent and individual. [...]

The Seth personality again, as you understand it, is legitimate and independent, a legitimate and independent personality which is a part of my identity. [...]

[...] Seth is however independent (smile, eyes open), and continues to develop as I continue to develop also. [...]

I, who am the source (pause), sent a portion of myself, an independent portion, to you. [...]

[...] This is not to be taken literally however, since both of us are fully independent, and exist simultaneously. [...]

In the main he felt that you would have even less use for him, that you valued individual independence, and the pride of making it alone too much.

Lighting his own cigarette in public was the one wild gesture of independence he allowed himself because you made such a point of lighting it for him. [...]

The whole thing boils down to the fact that he thought and felt you would not help him, but demand that he use his own abilities and help himself independently of you. [...]

[...] I am definitely a personality independent of Ruburt’s subconscious. Now, Ruburt assembles me, or allows me to assemble myself, in a way that will be recognizable to you; but regardless of this assembling, I exist in an independent manner, and with the past of which I have spoken.

And as your dreams originate with you, rise from you, attain a seeming independence and have their ending with you, so do an entity’s personalities arise from him, attain various degrees of independence, and return to him while never leaving him for an instant.

[...] They are independent to varying degrees, and they operate on various planes for purposes of overall fulfillment and development.

[...] That is, you have given them a certain independence. [...]

[...] Among other things, the poem is a passionate declaration of psychic independence, written in response to Seth’s ideas in this book.)

She will finally want to be independent of her body, but she is not cowering; she is struggling to free herself. [...] In one way the family’s treatment of her like a child is accepted, for it provides the thrust for independence in the same way that a child wants to grow up and leave the house. So your mother’s independence is aroused. [...]

(Long pause at 11:25.) Her feelings of independence are reincited, and will at last lead her to want to leave the family in general — not to cling to her “boys” (my two brothers and myself) — and they will also serve as an impetus to growth on her part not realized earlier.

[...] On those occasions when Ruburt has heard me more or less directly in his psychological time experiments, there has always been on his part a sound quite independent of himself, from outside of himself, of static. [...]

This was the result of my attempt to give the voice an independence, to form sound within your physical system without working through Ruburt’s vocal cords, but to impress your physical system kinetically.

(During the 68th session Seth stated that eventually, as Jane’s abilities grow, it should be possible for him to speak to us from different locations in the room, independent of Jane’s position, and that it might also develop that he could speak to us from his own apparition. [...]

[...] I have used the candle twice merely to show Ruburt that I could affect independent objects, and to show you that I could.

[...] They become embarrassed in late boyhood when kissed by their mothers, as a rule — yet it is quite natural to be both independent and dependent, cooperative and competitive.

Such young men grow up with the desire to be independent, while at the same time they also experience the natural drive for cooperation and dependence upon others. [...]