“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

One form may indeed serve, and then consciousness may project out of it into a new form that is familiar with other dimensions. In Ruburt’s experience three different forms were used. He spoke, incidentally to his Father Trainor, and Lizzie Roohan together, while he was in the second form. He was then led by me into a further dimension of reality in which his third form was used. You must remember that all of these portions of the self exist at once, and that the whole inner self knows them as a part of its own identity. (Lizzie and her mother shared the two-family Saratoga, NY home with Jane and her mother.)

Under usual conditions it will not be perceived by those still in physical form. This form is much like the form in which you project, but the form which you project is not truly complete, for there must be some (underlined) division of vitality so that physical existence is maintained during out-of-body episodes.

Since these selves exist simultaneously, it is then possible for consciousness to enter, or really form, such an image, undergo experiences within the characteristic pattern of reality, and then project to another image. In all cases consciousness forms the image. When consciousness changes, or travels at certain frequencies, it automatically changes its form. It is indeed possible to be involved with more than one form at once as in usual projection.

Now when you leave one form for the other, it of course is in the trance state. This applies to other forms beside the physical. You may look back upon it and think it a dead image of yourself, you see. Some individuals in their first astral form see their physical bodies as dead images of themselves and become frightened.

It seems to you that you have only one form, the physical one that you perceive, and no other. It also seems that your form can only be in one place at one time. You have indeed other forms that you do not perceive, and you also create various kinds of forms for various purposes, although you do not perceive these physically either.

[...] This intense desire would then act something like a core of energy projected outward from your own mind, given a form, your form. The place that you had envisioned would then attract the form, and it would instantaneously stand there. [...]

Now, through very intense emotional focus you can create a form, and project it to another person who may then perceive it. [...] This discussion does not concern the so-called astral form, which is something entirely different. The physical body is the materialization of the astral form.

[...] Form is the result of concentrated energy, the pattern for it caused by vividly directed emotional or psychic idea images. [...] If you have, for example, a highly vivid desire to be somewhere else, then without realizing it consciously a pseudophysical form, identical with your own, may appear in that very spot. [...]

You remember that I listed briefly the three forms used during projections. In the first form, you usually use certain inner senses. In the second form, you use more of these, and in the third form you attempt to use all of them, though very rarely is this successful. You should notice the overall form of perception that you seem to be using. [...]

The third we may call the true projection form. [...] The various forms that you use do not dictate your experience, however. You may begin in one form and change to another — or go from the first to the third. [...] The forms merely represent stages of consciousness.

[...] In the first body form, for example, you can look back and see the physical body. If you project from this form into the next, in order to intensify the experience, then from this second form you will not see the physical one. [...] In the third form, you will no longer be aware of the physical body, and you will not see it.

Using the third form, there could be a tendency for you not to recognize your own physical situation. [...] This third form is the vehicle of the inner self. [...] This disorientation is only temporary, and when at death the form is severed from the physical body, then all the memories and identity within the electromagnetic structure become part of the inner self. This form is sometimes used for purposes of instruction, however, or to acquaint the whole personality with the circumstances that strongly affect it.

The form perceived by your outer senses is always composed of matter, of course. There are also however forms or structures that are what you may call psychological forms or structures, even within your own field, which you do not perceive with your outer senses, but which are nevertheless frameworks that underlie form as it appears in matter.

Consciousness actually creates these perspectives, in which it can then manifest itself in form. Understand here that I speak in terms of psychological form and structure. In other words, individual consciousness operates in many different perspectives, in many various kinds of forms. In some stages it is unaware of the divisions or various manifestations of itself, due to the amount of focusing that is necessary for such form- [hyphen] projection.

[...] These prerequisite psychological forms exist before the construction of matter and physical form by an individual. He grapples with, and manipulates and juggles these inner psychological shapes before constructing them, his version of them, into physical form.

I want to mention that while form is not a characteristic of matter, it is one of the characteristics of consciousness. The form which consciousness takes is usually composed of matter on your plane.

Quite literally, the “inner self” forms the body by magically transforming thoughts and emotions into physical counterparts. [...] Using atoms and molecules, you build your body, forming basic elements into a form that you call your own.

You are intuitively aware that you form your image, and that you are independent of it. [...] The inner self, therefore, individually and en masse, sends its psychic energy out, forming tentacles that coalesce into form.

We also realize that permanency of form is an illusion, since all consciousness must be in a state of change. [...] Now whenever you think emotionally of another person, you send out a counterpart of yourself, beneath the intensity of matter, but a definite form. This form, projecting outward from your own consciousness, completely escapes your egotistical attention. [...]

[...] In a manner of speaking, three-dimensional objects are formed in somewhat the same way that the images you see on your television screen are formed, but with a large difference. [...]

The timeless quality will be built in, for the painting itself, though flawless in form, will suggest the changing quality of form, and stress the permanent quality that gives it its meaning. If you as artist are also aware that the same energy that fills the form that you paint also forms your own image, then the transformation into something better than excellent art is made.

The form is caused by a characteristic condition of the energy at any given time. If you are intuitively aware of that miraculous neatness, if you allow yourself to be enveloped within that particular moment point, then the painting will form itself about you in somewhat the same manner that I am formed about Ruburt’s voice. [...]

Ruburt cannot deal with form you see, in painting. He does not understand form in those terms, and never has. You can use it beautifully, as the carrier through which energy flows, and at the same time remember that the form itself is also the energy, period.

[...] (Humorously.) It is easier to realize that the vision and the everalive energy is far more permanent than the forms. The permanency and the timeless quality do not belong to the shapes of the mountains and the trees, but to the conscious energy that forms them.

[...] You plant thought forms in other systems, and you tend them. [...] Your world is like a thought form in my experience. [...] Probable selves can be viewed by myself and others like me, for we see your reality in all of its dimensions, and you view it from the small present forms that you know. [...]

Even physically you have not categorized all of the life-forms, and there are many co-inhabiting your system that you will never physically perceive. You do not understand the multiple reality of your own thoughts or thought forms, and you are not able to follow them out of your own mental home. [...]

[...] The gradations in physical matter forms alone escape your scientists. That matter exists in other forms is scarcely understood. [...]

[...] Consciousness of itself forms all of these realities and systems. It does not forget as you forget, that you form all the dimensions within your own system. [...]

Now, we can also take several forms at one time, so to speak, but you can also do this although you do not generally realize it. Your physical form can lie sleeping and inert upon the bed while your consciousness travels in a dream form to places quite distant. Simultaneously you may create a “thought-form” of yourself, identical in every respect, and this may appear in the room of a friend quite without your conscious awareness. So consciousness is not limited as to the forms it can create at any given time.

Having long ago recognized the dependence of form upon consciousness, we have simply been able to change our forms entirely so that they more faithfully follow each nuance of our inner experience.

Now: This ability to change form is an inherent characteristic of any consciousness. [...] You can see this in your own system, in a slowed-down version, when you observe the changing forms taken by living matter through its “evolutionary” history.

[...] Consciousness always creates form, and not the other way around. [...]

You appear in astral form in realities that are comparatively more advanced than your own. [...] But whether you have a physical form or not, if you have emotions or feelings, these will take form. [...]

[...] They are not fully focused in physical reality, however, either in personality or in form, and this is their main distinction. Some apparitions are thought-forms sent by survival personalities out of lingering deep anxiety. [...]

[...] Or the individual might send you a thought-form at the same time that he telepathically communicates with you. Your rooms are full now of thought-forms that you do not perceive; and again, you are as much a ghostly phenomenon now as you will be after death. [...]

You ignore certain temperature variations and stirrings of air as imagination, that are instead indicative of such thought-forms. You thrust into the background telepathic communications that often accompany such forms, and you turn aside from all clues that other realities exist quite validly with your own, and that in the midst of one existence you are surrounded by intangible but valid evidence. [...]

The vision will take another form, but if you have faithfully followed through, then the vision and its adopted form become one moment point. (Pause.) Allow the vision to express itself in form; again, do not attempt to impose the form upon the vision. The form should grow out of the vision.

[...] Now form is extremely important, but forms change constantly, and no form is permanent. Therefore let your fine draftsman’s ability carry in itself that message: beautiful form but already in transition, with the vision beneath ever ready to adopt new shape. [...]

[...] The vision must always be allowed freedom, for it is greater than its form. [...] Let your hand follow your intuitions then, and the form will be seen to vibrate, for then the form and the vision are one.

[...] Its inner development that has resulted in its present form, the energy behind the form. Remember in your painting the relationship of one object to another, not in terms of space necessarily, the interrelationship of the vitality that forms the objects; the vibrating always changing reality within, say, the skin of the apple or the orange, the quite living consciousness within the molecules that make up what seems to be the solid surface of the fruits’ skin.

The inwardness therefore flows through and forms matter, and the inwardness remains when it has finished expression in any given form. As you know in the case of man, memory, experience and value fulfillment is not lost as the inwardness disregards one form. [...]

The inwardness, as you know, is conscious of itself; but forming this new universe it could express its consciousness only through matter as it formed it, beginning with the innate, rather generalized consciousness of atoms. When sufficient atoms were formed from inward energy, then more various combinations became possible, and with them an accelerated consciousness could be made apparent.

Initially these mental enclosures formed as much matter about themselves as they could manage, capturing other such enclosures through attraction when possible, in which case the two groups thusly joined both benefited by the additional matter that they could form. For there is this excess of inner energy, and when two such enclosures joined they could between them form more matter through interrelationships, than either could alone.

I have told you that energy always regenerates itself, but the implications here psychically are astounding, as the inward energy forms gestalt after gestalt; and each gestalt itself then continues to go on, itself regenerating, forming new personalities which are never destroyed.

Whole consciousness adopts various forms. It need not always be within a form. All forms are not physical ones. [...]

Now: Since we realize that our identity is not dependent upon form, therefore, of course, we do not fear changing it, knowing that we can adopt any form we desire.

Consciousness is not dependent upon form, as I have said, and yet it always seeks to create form. [...]

[...] We follow what rules of form exist within these environments. [...]

Now you form the physical image that you know unconsciously. [...] There are other portions of your reality also formed by your thoughts and emotions however, that are not so obvious to you. [...] Now each of you, to some extent or another, build up such forms as you may refer to them. [...] All form has consciousness. [...] They formed through concentrations of energy. Now when you use all of your energy to manipulate in the physical reality there is little left to form such images. [...]

[...] As you learn to live spontaneously on a physical level, so automatically you will be able to build up such forms and when you do you must learn to train them. [...] And so when you grow these forms you must learn how to use them with respect and love. [...]

They are energy forms rather than thought forms. [...]

But energy forms depend upon strong, very powerful concentrations of energy whether thought or emotion is involved. These are in your terms, excesses of energy that shoot out from you like stars  but coalesce into a shape and a form. [...]

[...] What you really had in the beginning were images without form, slowly adopting form, blinking on and off, then stabilizing into forms that were as yet not completely physical. These then took on all of the characteristics that you now consider formed physical matter.

[...] Their die is cast, so to speak: They have already begun the special kind of screening process necessary that will bring about physical form. They begin to deal with the kinds of information that will help form your world. There are literally numberless steps taken before EE units combine in their own fashion to form the most microscopic physical particles, and even here the greatest, gentlest sorting-out process takes place as these units disentangle themselves at certain operational levels (underlined) from their own greater fields of “information,” to specialize in the various elements that will allow for the production of atoms and molecules impeccably suited to your kind of world.

Form exists at many other levels than those you recognize, in other words. Your dream forms are quite as real as your physical ones. They simply fit into their own environment at another level of activity, and they are quite reminiscent of the kinds of forms that you had in the beginning of [your] world.

If you remember that beneath all, each unit of consciousness is aware of the position of each other unit, and that these units form all physical matter, then perhaps you can intuitively follow what I mean, for whatever knowledge man attains, whatever experience any one person accumulates, whatever arts or sciences you produce, all such information is instantly perceived at other levels of activity by each of the other units of consciousness that compose physical reality—whether those units form the shape of a rock, a raindrop, an apple, a cat, a frog or a shoe. [...]

In the same way you form events, often without being aware that you do so. [...] The psyche forms events in the same way that the ocean forms waves — except that the ocean’s waves are confined to its surface or to its basin, while the psyche’s events are instantly translated, and splash out into mass psychological reality. [...] You are usually as unaware of this process as you are in normal practice of the ways in which you form your sentences, which seem to flow from you so automatically.

In a way events are like the spoken components of language, yet voiced in a living form — and not for example only sounded. [...] You form and organize sentences, yet you speak on faith, without actually knowing the methods involved in your speaking. [...]

In dreams, then, you are involved in the inner process by which physical events are formed. You deal with the psychological components of actions which you will, awake, form into the consecutive corporal “language” that results in the action of your days.

[...] She’s been busy typing that manuscript in its final form. [...]

[...] The initial point forms the three sides about it. [...] The three-sided effect, instantly formed, leads to an effect that is something like friction, but the effect causes (more gestures) the three sides to change position, so that you end up with a triangular effect, closed, with the initial point inside the triangle. Now, you understand this is not a physical form.

The energy point, from here on, constantly changes the form of the unit, but the procedure I have just mentioned must first occur. [...] Now these intensities of emotional energy, forming the units, end up by transforming all available space into what they are. Certain intensities and certain positions of polarity between and among the units and great groupings of the units compress energy into solid form (resulting in matter). The emotional energy within the units is obviously the motivating factor, and you can see, then, why emotional energy can indeed shatter a physical object. [...]

Take, for example, five thousand such units aligned together, formed together. [...] It would look like one single unit—say, it is of circular form—so it would appear like a small globe with the poles lined up as in your earth.

[...] Since they are the intuitive force just beyond the range of matter, upon which matter is formed, they will not follow the laws of matter, although at times they may mimic the laws of matter.

Form adopts mass within the physical system, but form is not dependent upon it. Form can exist and does exist without mass and without physical matter. Form, like time, is an aid, an organization of experience. Form is used as time structures may be used, but multidimensional personalities know that they construct form as they may construct various time systems as an aid toward organizing perception.

Time therefore is formed out of and from nontime. [...] (Long pause.) Entities then form the time in which they seem to dwell. (Long pause.) Experience itself is always plastic, and again, form is not dependent upon mass. [...] Form does not.

[...] Now, many personalities may work together to form a time system, as many men may labor to form a national highway. One personality may also form for his own purposes a time system of his own, as a man might make a path to his own garden.

[...] You will be able therefore to dispense with many seemingly permanent mass images, but when you form them you will realize why and how.

(Pause.) The energy point, the EE point, from here on, constantly changes the form of the unit, but the procedure I have just mentioned must first occur. [...] Now these intensities of EE, forming the units, end up by transforming all available space into what they are. Certain intensities and certain positions of polarity between and among the units, and great groupings of the units, compress energy into solid form.

The three-sided effect, instantly formed, leads to an effect that is something like friction, but the effect causes (gestures) the three sides to change position, so that you end up with a triangular effect, closed, with the initial point inside the triangle. Now, you understand this is not a physical form.

Take for example five thousand such units, aligned together, formed together. [...] It would look like one single unit—say it is of circular form—so it would appear like a small globe, with the poles lined up as in your earth.

[...] Since they are the intuitive force just beyond the reach of matter, upon which matter is formed, they will not follow the laws of matter, although at times they will mimic the laws of matter. [...]

[...] First of all you had the inner self, the creative dreaming self—composed, again, of units of consciousness, awareized energy that forms your identity, and that formed the identities of the earliest earth inhabitants. These inner selves formed their own dream bodies about them, as previously explained, but the dream bodies did not have to have physical reactions. [...]

(Pause at 9:23.) As the body became physical, however, the inner self formed the body consciousness so that the physical body became more aware of itself, of the environment, and of its relationship within the environment. [...] The body was lovingly formed from EE units through all the stages to atoms, cells, organs, and so forth. The body’s pattern came from the inner self, as all of the units of consciousness involved in this venture together formed this fabric of environment and creatures, each suited to the other.

So far in our discussion, then, we have an inner self, dwelling primarily in a mental or psychic dimension, dreaming itself into physical form, and finally forming a body consciousness. [...]

[...] As once it had formed the body consciousness, now it formed a physically attuned consciousness, a self whose desires and intents would be oriented in a way that, alone, the inner self could not be.

The fetus does have its own astral form. Now, this astral form belongs to the individual, the personality as it will be in this life. It is not the astral form that existed in a “previous” reincarnation. [...]

[...] As quickly as the new data forms the fetus and physical structure, the self from the previous reincarnation must begin to withdraw its hold. [...]

It helps form the new individual, and then it must withdraw. [...]

[...] It may project to other areas entirely while Sue is somewhere else in her astral form. [...]