“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now the weapons and the destruction are the obvious things that you see. The counterparts are not so evident, and yet it is the counterparts that are important. The self-discipline learned, the control, the compassion that finally is aroused, and the final and last lesson learned, the positive desire for creativity and love over destruction and hatred. When this is learned the reincarnational cycle is finished.

Now there is a reason why these lessons must be learned in just this way. Elementally there is only creativity. Destruction is merely the changing of form. A cloudburst or a tornado knows nothing of destruction. This same energy encased within a human form is something else. There are different kinds of creativity, then, to learn, and a specialization in energy is focus and feelings that emerge; elemental energy becoming conscious of itself, and aware of issues that did not exist for it earlier; millions of molecules momentarily united with the living consciousness (pause), filled with primal energy, now learning love, and forming highly sensitive psychic patterns, electrical charges that now form emotions instead of clouds; the innocent chaos of undifferentiated personality that exists behind the highly specified and truly sophisticated mechanism of one thought. And all of this before an individual is born within your system. In terms of time this is behind us all.

You may even smile at the child’s utter sense of desolation until he finally connects the motion of his own hand with the destruction of the paper, cardboard house that is now gone, and in his eyes gone beyond repair.

This does not mean that he could not destroy the world that he knew. It simply meant that such destruction was not inevitable. You do not give a child a loaded gun if you are certain he is going to shoot himself or his neighbor.

[...] Even paintings of great destruction spoke of the great creative energy behind the talent that vitalized the very medium, and by its very creativity denied the very strength of the destruction so cleverly depicted.

[...] When you look at the great world picture before you in space and time, look at it as you would a multidimensional worldscape, painted by some artist who was all of the great masters in one; and behind the scenes of destruction and conflict, feel the great energy that in itself denies the destruction that is in that case so cleverly depicted.

Now: the weapons and destruction are the obvious things that you see. The counterparts are not so evident, and yet it is the counterparts that are important: the self-discipline learned, the control, the compassion that finally is aroused, and the final and last lesson learned—the positive desire for creativity and love over destruction and hatred. [...]

[...] Destruction is merely the changing of form. A cloudburst or a tornado knows nothing of destruction. [...]

You may even smile at the child’s utter sense of desolation until he finally connects the motion of his own hand with the destruction of the paper cardboard house that is now gone, and in his eyes, gone beyond repair.

[...] It simply meant that such destruction was not inevitable. [...]

It will be difficult for some people to believe that spontaneity is to be trusted, for they may be only aware of feeling destructive or violent impulses. [...]

[...] Therefore, they hide those yearnings, and the destructive impulses actually serve to protect them from the expression of love that they have somehow learned to fear.

— chaotic, destructive activity as one and the same.

Nature and the inner nature of man are both seen to contain savage, destructive forces against which civilization and the reasoning mind must firmly stand guard.

[...] Hate creates destruction and in that room, until the lesson is learned, destruction follows destruction.

(Smile.) In the terms of other systems that particular kind of destruction is meaningless and does not exist, but you believe that it does, and the agonies of the dying are sorely felt. [...] It is not that you must be taught not to destroy, for destruction does not actually exist. [...]

([Ron:] “In other words, in this reality we are faced with decisions in this context, is it true that our decisions can be only constructive and good or destructive and evil?”)

[...] In larger terms, there is no such thing as destruction; and your second question does not follow logically from the first one. [...]

There is no destruction and there is no evil. [...]

[...] I think that even in the way we look at it now that there is destruction, which is evil...”)

(10:01.) When he is destructive, man does not seek to be destructive per se; but in a desire to achieve that which he thinks of as a particular goal that to him is good, he forgets to examine the goodness of his methods.

[...] I am aware of that — and yet the destructive storms worked by mankind ultimately cannot be said to be any more evil than the earthquake. While man’s works may often certainly appear destructive, you must not blame man’s intent, nor must you ever make the error of confusing man with his works. [...]

[...] Reading about the possible annihilation of mankind through nuclear destruction or other stupidities, while you are sitting calmly enough in your living room, is obviously far divorced from the actuality described in an article.

None of the prophesied destruction man so fears is a reality in your time; nor, for all of the critical prophets through the ages, and the forerunners of doom, has the creativity of man destroyed itself in those terms.

[...] His emotions were not creatively—if you’ll excuse the term—destructive. You and Jane both have a peculiar problem in that you are creative even when you are destructive.

[...] The images were formed by the culminating energy of your destructive powers. [...] Unconsciously you saw the image of your destructive tendencies, and these images themselves roused you to combat them.

[...] Again, the images marked the critical culmination of your destructive energies. The fact that the images were of yourselves shows that your destruction was turned inward even though materialized in the outer world.

Once more, your personality is creative and constructive even when it is tuned to a destructive trend. [...]

[...] If you have difficulty imagining the deliberate destruction of the negative object, this is merely a sign of its hold. You may then instead imagine its destruction by an act of nature. [...] If this is the case then the exercise should be continued until you imagine you yourself deciding upon and bringing about the destruction and replacement. [...] The symbolic destruction is the real destruction. [...]

“The man and woman in the York Beach dancing establishment … were fragments of your selves, thrown-off materializations of your own negative and aggressive feelings … the images were formed by the culminating energy of your destructive energies at the time. [...] Unconsciously you saw the image of your destructive tendencies, and these images themselves roused you to combat them.”

[...] Again, the images marked the critical culmination of your destructive energies. The fact that the images were of yourselves shows that your destructive energies were turned inward, even though materialized in physical form.

[...] “If Seth’s right, they actually became the destructive images they had of themselves.”

[...] “But it wouldn’t always be destructive, would it? [...]

The artist who paints such a scene may do so for several reasons: because he hopes through portraying such inhumanity to awaken people to its consequences, to make them quail and change their ways; because he is himself in such a state of disease and turmoil that he directs his abilities in that particular manner; or because he is fascinated with the problem of destruction and creativity, and of using creativity to portray destruction.

In your wars you are using creativity to create destruction, but you cannot help being creative.

The overall health of the individual and the delicate balance of electromagnetic properties are important, for when the organism is set deeply in destructive patterns, then this may be also felt in the dream state, so that destructive dreams add to the overall unfortunate state.

[...] Constructive thoughts do not simply affect the system for good in some sort of a generalized fashion, nor do destructive thoughts simply happen to affect the system directly.

[...] A destructive type of thought, then, is dangerous not only for the present state of the organism, but dangerous in terms of the future.

Poor health is indeed caused mainly by habitual destructive thought patterns which directly affect the physical system, because of the particular range within the electromagnetic system in which they fall; and despite any objections I will stick by this statement. [...]

[...] Ruburt would not turn any destructive energy loose upon you, my dear friend, for he loves you too deeply. He is too mature now to turn such destructive energy inward in a strong manner, against his own organism. [...]

[...] For a short period of time, Ruburt turned his creative energy, as he knows, I believe, inward rather than outward, knotted it up, misdirected it, did not focus it properly, and turned it into destructive energy.

[...] When it is not properly used it backs up so to speak, and explodes or erupts in what seems to be a destructive manner. [...]

[...] The destructive energy however found no outlet. [...]

[...] When you are concentrating upon destructive elements, you lose on two points. You reinforce the destructive qualities by the very act of concentrating upon them, and you rob yourselves of the constructive qualities that you could be concentrating upon, and therefore that you could be reinforcing.

All of these matters, you see, and many more, from the considerations of health and the formation of destructive ulcers and tumors, to the construction of any simple physical object, to the construction of an apparition—all of these are in one way or another connected with inner focus and concentration.

[...] (Another long pause.) At times they have immense power to bring about shaking world changes of either beneficial or destructive nature.

(Very long pause at 3:31.) Regardless of how unbelievable it might seem to some readers, it is true that even the most destructive events are based upon misinterpretations of reality, opposing beliefs, and the inability to receive or express love. [...]

The greatest majority of destructive acts are committed in line with that belief. [...]

Action at this level is conscious of itself, but the “I” differentiation is not definite enough to fear destruction or painful stimuli. [...] And knowing itself, it knows its basic indestructibility, knows its own oneness, and has no fear of destruction, for it is also part of destruction itself, from which further action will evolve.

Without any acceptance of painful stimuli the structure could never maintain itself, for the atoms and molecules within the structure constantly accept painful stimuli, and suffer even joyfully, their own destruction; being aware of their own separateness within action, and aware of their reality within all action, and not having complicated “I” structures to maintain, there is no reason for them to fear destruction.

(This question refers to a discussion the four of us had at first break, after Seth had given us data on any possible destruction of our earth, the various probable systems involving other earths, etc. We had wondered what course the entities would take who had manifested on our particular probability-earth, in the event of its literal destruction.)

They would however definitely go where their experience could be best utilized, and where their intimate knowledge of destruction be best used as a tool. To some degree such a destruction would be felt in all realities. [...]

[...] If the dream ends in a moment of destruction you do not consider the dream a failure. [...]

[...] Those responsible for such a destruction would have destroyed only reality as they knew it, in the probable system. [...]

[...] It has no fear of destruction, for it is also a part of the destruction from which new actions will evolve.

[...] … When the organism is set deeply in destructive patterns, then this is sometimes felt in the dream state, so that destructive dreams then add to the entire situation. [...]

[...] The “I” differentiation is not definite enough to fear destruction.)

[...] Without this acquiescence, the physical structure would never maintain itself, for the atoms and molecules within it constantly accept painful stimuli and suffer even their own destruction. [...]

The nation served as an example of what could happen in any country if the most fanatical nationalism was allowed to go unchecked, if the ideas of right were aligned with might, if any nation was justified in contemplating the destruction of others.

[...] He yearned for destruction, for in saner moments even he recognized the twisted distortions of his earlier ideals. [...]

Now, however, we come to Hiroshima, where this highly destructive bomb was exploded (on August 6, 1945) — and for what reason? [...]

[...] However the relationship between her own parents has been destructive. [...]

Her father has been more destructive to her psychological health in some respects than her mother, for he gave her the image of males as weak.