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Symbolically, however, the crucifixion idea itself embodied deep dilemmas and meanings of the human psyche, and so the Crucifixion per se became a far greater reality than the actual physical events that occurred at the time.

(Finally Jane told me: “I’m just trying to relax…. He’s got something for you, I think, about those biblical times; the Crucifixion… The thing is, I know what Seth’s going to start telling you, but it’s confusing. It doesn’t sound right.”

He had no intention of dying in that manner; but others felt that to fulfill the prophecies in all ways, a crucifixion was a necessity.

To the intelligent, even the symbolism of the Crucifixion is abhorrent. Does this mean, however, that such a crucifixion did not occur? It may not have occurred, in one place and in one time, and to one called Christ; but because man has created the myth, he created the Crucifixion out of his own need; and this Crucifixion, which historically did not occur, as the myth says it occurred, nevertheless has as much reality, and more, than it would have had, had it occurred in so-called hard fact.

I will at another time go into the Crucifixion myth and its strong element of truth. [...]

[...] As a brief byline here, I mentioned once the Crucifixion, saying that it was an actuality and a reality, although it did not take place in your time. [...]

(See the 81st session for Seth’s statements on the Crucifixion. [...]

The Crucifixion was one of the gigantic realities that transformed and enriched both the universe of dreams and the universe of matter, and it originated in the universe of dreams. [...]

[...] The crucifixion of Christ was a psychic, but not a physical event. [...]

Now: Whether or not the Crucifixion occurred physically, it was a psychic event, and exists as do all the other events connected with the drama.

[...] There was no historic Virgin Birth, and no historic Crucifixion. [...]

(Seth has dealt with psychic gestalts, religion, the Crucifixion, beginnings and endings, etc., under the general heading of the God concept, at various times. [...]

“Dreams and the Crucifixion, Creativity and Inspiration, Importance of Dream Recall”

I mentioned the Crucifixion once, saying that it was an actuality and a reality, although it did not take place in your time. [...]

The Crucifixion was one of the gigantic realities that transformed and enriched both the universe of dreams and the universe of matter, and it originated in the world of dreams. [...]

And within the framework of the crucifixion there are inexhaustible truths still to be explored. Mark’s paintings of the crucifixion, like other such paintings, created a concept form, within which an unexpressable concept is transformed into expressible terms and placed within a spatial framework.

[...] The crucifixion has no existence in space. [...]

1. I added “[resurrection and]” to Seth’s passage because Jane told me that according to ordinary teaching Christ’s resurrection from the dead took place on Easter Sunday, the third day following his crucifixion (on Friday), while his ascension into heaven transpired at an indefinite later time — up to 40 days later, as stated in the writings of St. Luke in the Acts of the Apostles (AA 1:10). [...]

[...] Seth has always maintained that Christ wasn’t crucified to begin with — indeed, he told us in the same private session that “…in the facts of history, there was no crucifixion, resurrection, or ascension. [...]

[...] Even after his crucifixion the risen Jesus wasn’t recognized on various occasions.)

(Pause.) Now in the facts of history, there was no crucifixion, resurrection, or ascension. [...]

“I mentioned the Crucifixion, saying once that it was an actuality and a reality, although it did not take place in your [physical] time. [...]

“The Crucifixion was one of the realities that enriched both the universe of dreams and the universe of matter, and it originated in the universe of dreams. [...]

Seth is not saying here that the Crucifixion was “just a dream.” [...]

[...] Crucifixions were normal punishments. [...]

[...] The Crucifixion and attendant drama made sense within your reality at the time. [...]

[...] This would involve such related matters as the soul, energy transformation, cycles on our plane, spirituality, the “source of the source,” the Crucifixion, beginnings and endings, prayer and the will to be, etc. [...]

[...] There will be, incidentally, no crucifixion in that drama. [...]

[...] This does not include the crucifixion of the ego.

For those who may wonder: I’ll close here by noting that historically the time period within which my impressions took place would embrace the reputed visits of Jesus Christ to Jerusalem during Pilate’s tenure, including Christ’s crucifixion around A.D. 30 — but that my experience per se had nothing to do with the Messiah.