“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

The experiences were legitimate enough. In two cases he was using his own energy to sustain and direct the group, and to transport them, so to speak. He had some help from others in the group, but not enough for such sustained effort.

If he only sees your physical body then he should address you, announce his own out-of-body state and invite you to join him. If you are still in your body and if conditions are good, you will then leave your body and join him. If there is no response then you are on an unconscious projection of your own. When astral contact is made, some manipulations may be necessary in order to maintain them, but there is nothing to worry about if you go your separate ways.

Now if you make a habit of doing this, of giving these suggestions two evenings a week, you will ultimately be highly successful. I suggest that the two nights be together. Ruburt should try on these nights one of his methods as he falls asleep, and if that does not succeed, tell him to use the other methods that he knows from the dream state.

You should be comfortably warm, but not overburdened with blankets. (Long pause.) A note to Ruburt: he should keep a robe handy. Use one book for dreams, and leave it on his desk overnight. As a preliminary to the instructions I have given you, for 7 days he should give himself dream suggestions, and on several occasions, though not every night, tell himself that he will awaken after a dream and record it.

As he knows, this facilitates out-of-body states on his part. This should be done a week before you begin your joint experiments.