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TES4 Session 195 October 4, 1965 16/84 (19%) Lorraine Asheville dreamer Marleno breakage
– The Early Sessions: Book 4 of The Seth Material
– © 2013 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 195 October 4, 1965 9 PM Monday as Scheduled

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

(I planned no envelope test for this session. Not because of the poor results of the last test in the 194th session, but to vary the steady test diet. I thought Jane might come to feel under pressure without a break occasionally. I expected the data on Dr. Instream to come through as usual, however.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

I am pleased that Ruburt’s mood has somewhat improved. I told him that the affair would work out to his advantage, but again patience is not one of his virtues.

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

If she were to accept the real validity of the sessions, then she would feel obligated to enter into the affair. She feels too deeply, and so sometimes she backs away, and sometimes she does not. This makes it difficult for me to speak to her specifically, for it is not easy for me then to look into her circumstances. I say this because I would indeed, Marleno, be more helpful, as I have tried to be with the Jesuit and the cat lover. But so far, while you are interested, you have not quite allowed me to probe into your circumstances easily.

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

I do think that these sessions have helped you, generally speaking. The very fact of their existence has been an advantage to you, though you may not know it, and I have hinted at this before. You are wishing for many answers from me, and I have always felt the pull of your inquiries. However at the same time you do set up these blocks; for you are not afraid of the answers, but you are afraid basically that they could be given in this manner.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

Strangely enough, it can be knocked down most easily, if you can think of me in terms in no way occult or mysterious, but simply as a personality engaged in an endeavor which science will soon come to accept, as simply one of the many facts of existence of which they have previously known but little.

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

There is much preparation necessary for such work. Various kinds of conditions must be exactly met, between those such as myself, and those through whom we speak. Not only general conditions but personal conditions. I meant, very simply, that since you have not been able to be emotionally open, you have often closed up tightly in the sessions. It is not that I could not reach you through Ruburt, and answer some of your questions. In any case it is simply that the answers would do you no good under such circumstances.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

Now, this same sort of emotional system operates in the sleeping state as well as in the waking state, though there are differences in that the personality will allow greater leeway in the dream state. But even in the sleeping condition, as should be obvious, the individual accepts and attracts certain experiences and blocks out others. You know that telepathy and clairvoyance operate rather freely in the dream state. However the nature of such experiences is strongly dependent upon the particular emotional system that is characteristic of any given personality.

Dreamer “A” for example may pick up telepathically a small but particular portion of a dream by dreamer “B”. Dreamer “A” need not necessarily have an emotional connection with dreamer “B”. However there will be at the very least an emotional connection between the event within dreamer “B’s” dream, that has strong meaning for dreamer “A”. A man may dream of a childhood experience in which he was bitten by a dog. Another man who was also bitten by a dog, may then for example telepathically pick up the original dream. Not because he is necessarily connected with the dreamer, but because the experience will strike at him emotionally, and he will then attract the dream.

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

(Break at 9:55. Jane had been dissociated as usual. Her eyes had remained closed, her pace had been good. I had indeed been watching the volume of her voice, for several times during this delivery I thought I noticed a tendency to escalate in volume. A couple of times I was on the verge of asking Seth to be careful, but the voice quieted each time by itself.

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

There is a litter of papers, however, that are not in sight in a drawer. He has forgotten about us until very late. He lies down. (Pause at 10:10.) He seems to be in a dissociated state, but whether or not it was produced purposely I do not know.

[... 12 paragraphs ...]

Now I pick up the word whiskey, as applying to a later period, and another circumstance involving a man and a late hour, and a dwelling place with a front door precisely in the middle of a front room, and a porch that is shadowed, and back bedrooms with children. But they are not all asleep, and one overhears an argument.

[... 6 paragraphs ...]

(Lorraine had three children then, and they did sleep in back bedrooms of the apartment house in Asheville, NC, she said. As to a front door precisely in the center of a front room, Lorraine was not sure. She said this could be deceptive. If one looked at the front of the house from the outside, he would see a single door in front, in the center of the house; but this was a door opening into a hallway, with apartments opening off on either side, and thus would not be in the middle of a front room.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(Jane had but a vague memory of what she had said. She said Seth had not been pushing to obtain the information, and Lorraine agreed. Jane resumed, again with her eyes closed, at a rather fast pace and in an average voice, at 10:35.)

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

With all due respects to Ruburt, he was right in one respect and wrong in another. The porch to the front was shadowed. He correctly picked up the leaf images; however it was not the first floor. The door was in the center. However, my viewpoint is not precise enough perhaps, but I have the picture of a door precisely centered, leading outward. And I am working here despite the unwitting blocks that are erected. I see something yellow and something rose; and voices rising, and something broken. This is on my part an emotional breakage.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

Now I have the feeling of a funeral, though this may be symbolic. But there is a connection with a car, perhaps a black one. This could explain the funeral impression. A disturbed afternoon, and an argument, and the strong impression, again, of a breakage.

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

(There was no black car connected with her during the stay in Asheville, Lorraine said. But she owned a black car in 1960, while living in Elmira, several years before we met her. This is the only black car she has had, or been closely associated with. She did not own it when we met her a few months ago.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

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