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On one level they could be said not to exist, and yet they do exist. While in your dream, you are able to see and touch and move about in these locations. It is only when you awake that they escape you. This should be considered along with our material on the expanding universe, since dream locations represent, certainly, a reality, even a framework that has no existence in your space; and measured purely along the lines used to measure your space, you would receive no hint at all of their existence or reality. Measured purely in terms of your camouflage conceptions, many things which you know to exist would seem not to exist.

This tinge of time is an attribute of the physical camouflage form only, and even then the relationship between time and ideas, and time and dreams, is a nebulous one. As I have mentioned, though you experience two days in a dream, you are while in that dream free from the time involved, in that you do not age two days, although you have psychologically experienced that apparent time.

Now nevertheless the dream world, the mind and the reality universe do exist. They exist in a climate that we will call the value climate of psychological reality. This is the medium. This takes the place of what you call space. This value climate of psychological reality is a quality which makes all existences and consciousness possible. It is one of the most powerful principles behind or within the vitality that itself composes from itself all other phenomena.

One of the main attributes of this value climate is spontaneity, that shows itself in the existence of the only sort of time that has any real meaning, that of the spacious present.

I realize that this material is difficult, and I am giving it to you in as simple terms as possible. If growth is one of the most necessary laws of your camouflage universe, value fulfillment corresponds to it in the inner reality universe.

(Now Jane came up to the table I use as a desk during sessions. With one foot on a chair, she leaned over to supervise each word I wrote. The next paragraph represents probably the longest period of time she refrained from pacing back and forth while dictating.)

These basic laws are followed on many levels in your own universe. We will go into these laws in time. So far I have given you but one, which is value fulfillment.

What you consider death has no more basic reality than has your idea of time and space. Death really represents a blind spot in your present ability to perceive energy transformation, and even value fulfillment. Death merely represents the termination of your own perception, that is, the termination of your understanding. Your ability here amounts to a complete dwindling of comprehension. Your senses are not equipped to perceive the transformation of energy from one form to another.

I want to make one note here, that again experience in the use of psychological time will bring you close to an understanding of the value climate of psychological reality, for obvious reasons. Psychological time indeed is a part of this climate as it appears in fairly uncamouflaged form in your own universe. You can get the feel of it.

I am not giving you these laws necessarily in the order of their importance, merely in the order which is easiest for me to deliver to you. Creation is obviously one of the basic laws, which we will call the fifth law.

This material is actually not nearly as difficult to understand as it may seem. Intuitively you should pick up much of it. The intuitions are not bound by the so-called laws of logic, and cause and effect. They do not take time as you know it into consideration, therefore they are not bound by continuity or limited to communication of words or even thoughts, strung out one after another.

This is quite enough for one session, my pigeons.

(It will be remembered that in the 33rd session, page 262 [in Volume One}, Seth suggested the date, April 15, 1964, as a significant one for Miss Callahan. By coincidence, this session fell on April 15, so naturally I was curious to learn more. Jane’s thought at the time of the 33rd session was that April 15th meant possibly a change for Miss Callahan, instead of her death necessarily.

The session has been an excellent one. Even old Doubting Thomas Ruburt is impressed enough with the material to admit that his precious subconscious simply could not be the source of it all.

(She went on to say that as good as she wants the sessions to be, she has learned that she must overcome any feeling of responsibility for them; to do otherwise invariably makes her tense and hampers the flow of material. Again, Seth had something to say about distortions in the 36th session, in Volume One.