“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Break at 9:30. Jane was dissociated as usual. And as also seemed to be usual lately, we were both somewhat tired. The new schedule was still taking its toll in lost sleep; though we had felt good at the beginning of the session, already we were let down. In some way we do not yet understand, much energy is taken from us while Jane is dictating; I sometimes feel that I too am in a trance state when she is speaking. Tonight at times I had to fight to keep my eyes open while writing.

The reason that direct inner experience is often cut off and rarely sustained is that the ego almost immediately clamps down to examine the phenomena; and, Joseph, the bulk of the sessions is somewhat shorter for two reasons. For one thing I am getting the data through to Ruburt in a clearer, more concise fashion, and thereby dispensing with many unnecessary phrases. Also, I do not have to backtrack as frequently. I have given you some shorter sessions, though not many, because of your own changed schedule, and because I work through your energies, your combined energies, in a way that I have yet to explain.

Ruburt during these sessions is also to some degree dependent upon your energy, Joseph, and more than normally sensitive to your moods. I have said that both of you are necessary. I can sense a lack of confidence on Ruburt’s part when he senses any disturbance as far as you are concerned. I mention this because it then becomes more difficult for me to get the material through.

I am not sure precisely which way to give you this material. However we are on firmer ground now. As I mentioned, there is no real expansion of the universe in space. The appearance is a distortion. I have mentioned in the past that everything does have a form or a tissue capsule and field of energy.

Now I have said that a plane is not necessarily a location. It is not necessarily a planet, though it may be. The universe as you think of it contains innumerable planes, all taking up in your terms the same amount of space. The forms within these planes are in constant motion, as are the planes themselves. There is a continual exchange of energy and vitality, in other words, of actual atoms and molecules between one plane and another.

Your universe is only one of many such universes. You are aware only of perceptions along the horizontal planes, and the more powerful your scientific instruments become the more you will be able to see. One universe does become another. However, the universes containing an almost infinite number of planes are therefore affected by the exchange of energies involved, and the interaction and continual movement even of one plane through another results in effects which will be perceived in various ways, again according to your own situation in them.

These effects will be experienced as necessary distortive boundaries, in some cases resembling a flow as if a plane were surrounded by water, in some cases a charge as of electricity, but on each plane the resulting effects of this interchange, interaction and constant motion of energy will take on the camouflage of the particular plane.

(Break at 11:00. Jane was dissociated as usual. We sat in silence for the most part, resting; although I for one felt somewhat better. When Jane began dictating again she spoke somewhat faster and with more energy. Resume at 11:05.)

These sessions represent quite an accomplishment on both of your parts, and you do use your inner senses to some important degree. Otherwise the material would not come through with any dependability. We have here what amounts to a gestalt of a kind. It is natural that your energies rise and ebb, and this is to be expected. To some degree I am able to reinforce your energies, and I do as you may have suspected.

We will also all improve so that you should actually find your energies refreshed at the end of a session, though we have not reached that level at this time. The mere fact that the sessions continue, and have continued despite ordinary fluctuations of daily life, is proof of the validity of the sessions.