“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

[...] However I would appreciate it if you would this evening act as a stenographer on my behalf, in a business matter.

[...] He would have continued answering questions had I asked them, but Jane would have found it tiring. [...]

(The evening was very hot and humid; it was quite uncomfortable even through it had just rained, and Jane wasn’t sure we would have a session. [...]

Would you then take the following letter addressed to Mr. Mossman and Miss Carr, jointly? [...]

Much of the inner meaning would not have registered. You would have thought it a surface book, because you would not have understood clearly the premises beneath. [...]

[...] However, it would not have been nearly as helpful earlier for you would have accepted it in a surface manner.

(Today while relaxing, Jane received two impressions, both somewhat worrisome, that we hoped Seth would cover tonight.

It may seem to you (Jane pointed to me) that this would not be the case, and that the caution is unnecessary. [...]

[...] There is a small matter I would like to clear up. There was no subconscious distortion on Ruburt’s part, when I told you that the nonphysical self book would sell. [...]

[...] Ruburt would not turn any destructive energy loose upon you, my dear friend, for he loves you too deeply. [...] He would not willfully turn such energy loose even upon an animal.

[...] It would be for you, had you the time. There are unfortunate connections with your father however, that might at first mitigate against your enjoyment, though old experience with the land would soon come back to you.

I knew that the book would be returned shortly, and this is the reason that I gave you this reassurance. [...]

[...] You set up a system of balances so that you would think before using your power. [...] In that joint venture it made little difference which of you accepted the role that would in one way or another prevent the both of you from misusing power, for the one role would be passive while the other was active.

Ruburt’s condition in late years would fluctuate. You would use it, the two of you, as a measuring yardstick: if he began to improve considerably enough, particularly a few years ago, you would instantly, Joseph, become negative and guarded. [...]

In any case, in the context of this discussion, had you not married Ruburt, you would have remained single, or possibly married to a woman who also would not want children. [...]

[...] At times, however, you refused to lead in this life when circumstances might have warranted a more active role at particular times, because in that previous life you would not buck Ruburt, and because you also were more cautious this time about the use of personal power.

[...] The thought had come to her that Seth would discuss the self and the notself tonight. [...]

[...] Without telepathy no language would be intelligible. [...]

The individual self is, therefore, literally a part of what would seem to be completely different objects. [...]

[...] It is true that these constructions take place on a subconscious level, but to the degree that you realize what you are doing, they will become more comprehensible to the intellect, until full awareness of the origin of physical matter would be reached.

[...] He was not to have recalled its true nature, and it was hoped that he would elaborate the experience into a dream which would be composed of the constructive elements which the experience had given him.

He would not accept the responsibility that he felt such ability would put upon him, and so he looked for an outside source of the voices, and dreamed the sequence in which the voices came from a radio, and not his head. [...]

(In the 198th session of last Wednesday, October 13, Seth stated that financial matters and our kitchen problem would be settled by Saturday, October 16. [...]

[...] The shock is his knowledge that our material would cease were he to shut off his abilities in such a manner. [...]

[...] You were simply afraid of expressing the feelings in any capacity, and projected them, therefore, upon a person who subconsciously you felt would not be able to reciprocate. You very nicely projected them upon a person who was bonded as you were by all kinds of taboos, specifically against any such behavior, where they would be least reciprocated in physical terms, when any such action would automatically involve all kinds of guilt and retaliation, the most difficult position of which you could conceive. You would have projected them upon a priest, but this frightened you even more because the male relationship held for you a feeling of terror. [...]

What do you think you would feel if you were convinced that what I told you about your lives tomorrow and for the next year was true, and then I told you. What would you think if I gave you a legitimate statement about the activities of your lives until your deaths, in your terms. Would you thank me, or would you instead hate me for taking from you the glorious unpredictability of the life that you know? [...]

(Ron:] “So there would be no contradiction in that if you conceive of God consisting of all personalities, then as individual personalities progress up through different realities then He would eventually become in His identity God in that God is All That Is.”)

(After break.) A villain or a victim can also be a part of a religious drama, but I enjoy your interpretations of what I have said, and so before I finish I would like to hear more of these. [...]

For personality reasons neither of you would be happy, I’m afraid, were Ruburt to go into deep trances at my instigation during sessions. And you, Joseph, would be much less enthusiastic even than Ruburt. [...]

You should not, and I repeat this, grow panicky at the thought of distortions occurring, simply because to expect no distortions is just as unrealistic, and would send you flying headlong against an eventual wall of disillusion. [...] I do not want to set up a fear that is an exaggerated fear of distortions, since this might well make him so rigid that he would block perfectly valid material, fearing he was adding distortion.

[...] She didn’t hear it clearly within as she ordinarily would if it was a message from Seth before a session was to begin. [...]

A mistake for example in notes would not apply here. [...]

[...] I would not dare be so presumptuous. I would, literally, shiver in my boots, for he would pursue me with endless protests.

[...] Her ability to draw upon others would be very valuable in the “near future.” I believe he implied here that Jane would be speaking before larger groups, perhaps soon, and that possibly many in such groups would be strangers.

My thought here was merely that in perhaps four or five sessions we could deliver a basic, if not thoroughly adequate, explanation that would then serve as a basis for those who attended the four or five sessions, so that any problems could then be discussed in such a manner that the witnesses would be familiar with basic precepts and terminology.

[...] There would also be times when Jane’s energies would be at a lower ebb. [...]

[...] Now if the whipping-dogs were not connected with Ruburt, this would be a handy family mechanism. Another point I would mention: Ruburt knows quite well your own progress in your own work. [...]

[...] He feels how you would enjoy and appreciate painting in the same way that my book is being presented, so spontaneously and quickly, comparatively speaking. [...] He was afraid you would be jealous of the book, and hurt, and his panic was of your reaction.

Also, to some less extent, and at different times, he would know that the symptoms were a whipping-boy for you both, and so he was afraid at times to dispense with them completely. (Of letting them go, for fear they would be needed next week.)

[...] Now which would you prefer first?

[...] The ego, in anger, would not allow the suggestions made to be carried out. The energy that would have been used in what you may call, for now, astral projection, was dammed up. [...] The trouble was that the energy that would have been used to carry out the suggestions was dammed up by the ego.

[...] I then suggested we go shopping and run our other errands earlier in the day than usual, thinking the physical activity would help.

[...] Jane functioned all right, but felt as though she could “fly,” as though her feet would not come back to earth. [...]

[...] However, I am afraid that we must temporarily clip his wings, for indeed he would go too fast, too soon.

(Before tonight’s session I mentioned to Jane that I hoped Seth would discuss the August 12-15 date he gave for Miss Callahan, and would mention Bill’s report on his predictions. [...]

[...] You know that the individual cells of any form cooperate to form another, more complicated gestalt; and without the cooperation not only would the more complicated structure cease to operate, but the individual cells would also cease to operate.

[...] You have no need to even wonder about the possibility of any sort of invasion, that would be detrimental. And any invasion would be detrimental.

There are a few points that I would like to make of a general nature. [...]

[...] If Ruburt were a traffic cop, other methods would have been taken so that he would not get run down, for example. I understand your concern, and perhaps I should not comment, but if some of my suggestions had been followed, you would have had quicker results with the eyes. [...]

[...] In a note dated Oct 25 his assistant implied that Mr. Rubin would get in touch later, after the affairs connected with the Cézanne show there had subsided. [...] I mentioned to Jane that it would be fun if Seth could give us a little bit on Rubin’s reaction when he saw the book on Cézanne—not on its contents.)

You have both been afraid that Ruburt would not return to normal flexibility, to have faith in that situation, for fear your hopes would be aroused then dashed. [...]

[...] Most of the time we felt that her eyes were healing themselves, since often now she would be able to see with great clarity at various distances even better than with her glasses. [...]

[...] Seth’s “Framework 2” would be this magical area, of course, I thought. [...] The magical orientation to reality would include intellectual activity. That went without saying, but the way of relating to life would be completely different too; the way of dealing with problems or health difficulties; of achieving goals and so forth would be drastically different. The word “action” would mean something else than it does, too.

[...] But it would be part of our natural way of looking at the world — a way that has been overlaid by our belief in the “rational” way of doing things. [...] But I thought there would be things in each person’s life that could be used as guideposts, to a magical kind of orientation. [...]

[...] I took that to mean that I would shortly be on the move again creatively, and to be prepared, so I had Rob help me move all my writing materials from the small breezeway where I’d finished The God of Jane, into the new patio back room, as a gesture of being ready to start over.

[...] Seth, I knew, would start up the sessions again that night — if I wanted to. [...]

[...] This would have been a very mechanical approach. More, it would have involved altering dates, and changing or eliminating some of the copy to make the rest of it fit—all things I dislike doing. [...]

[...] Medical science would be willing to try, however. Out of the goodness of its heart, all of its scientific procedures would be put at my disposal. [...]

Being a proper candidate meant that I would turn my life over to medical science in the hospital for at least a year: a year spent in therapy, surgical procedures, and more therapy, until I ended up having at least four separate operations. [...]

[...] I wanted to see how my body would react to the synthetic thyroid hormone and to therapy first. [...]

I told our good friend Joseph to underline the word “seem” because your instruments would show no physical alteration — since the instruments within such a room would themselves have already altered to the same degree.

[...] In your terms there would be no lack of space or time in which to operate. Now this would put tremendous pressure on any consciousness without proper background and development. [...]

[...] Otherwise what we say would not be understood.

[...] They have evolved along different lines, and their psychological structures would be alien to your own.

Now that the basic reasons for the symptoms have been conquered, the symptoms would disappear in any case, but at a rather slow rate. [...] A complete change of environment would be excellent of course if it were practical. [...]

[...] I would be willing enough to do an envelope test, but presume you would rather wait.

[...] He also liked to have the radio blaring as a gesture of defiance and freedom, and within limitations, this would be an aid when the windows are opened. [...]

It would perhaps help if at least one window is open during Ruburt’s exercise period.

[...] In between may be a grouping of opposing symbols, representing your hope — a spring flower, a table loaded with food, a new suit of clothes, any sign of abundance that would have meaning to you. Nowhere would the thought of the potential loss of a job enter in. It would seem to you that you had forgotten it.

(9:57.) Through the use of symbols, however, your feelings would be given full play, each image rising and falling in flow with feelings so far underneath consciousness — pools of emotion — that you were not aware of them. They would automatically bring about these images however. Now with reflection you could connect these with their origin, but usually they would pass you by.

If you let yourself lie still longer with eyes closed, the symbolism would continue to change character, losing perhaps some of its visual characteristics and growing more intense in other directions. [...]

[...] If you let yourself drift off into sleep here, you would most probably manufacture two or three dreams that symbolized the fear, dreams in which you consider and try out possible solutions within the dream context. [...]

[...] I was surprised and in a way sad for her, wondering how she would make out, and what problems the new place would have with her. [...]

(Pause.) In your terms, the rhythm of some kinds of consciousness would seem exceedingly slow, so that a century might pass between one perception and the next. Other variations might seem amazingly quick — the perceptions following each other so swiftly that they would indeed escape your (underlined) perception entirely; yet in the wondrous marvels of inner nature, all of these rhythms are connected one to the others, and in a matter of speaking — excuse the pun (amused) — they each balance each other.

[...] In the experience the kitten was in the hospital room, and there seemed to be adjoining rooms, as at 458 (the address of the apartment house we’d lived in on W. Water Street). This signified that Ruburt was building up similarities between present and past experience, so that the kitten, appearing in the dream’s present and past also, would indeed appear in the future.

This end would then represent the extension of the self outward toward the physical universe. [...] The world of inner reality would then be imagined as existing at the other end of this tube. And in the same manner that one end of the tube would represent the extension of the self into the world of physical reality, then so too would the other end of this tube represent the extension of the self into the inner world of reality.

I do not seriously imagine that you would entertain such a ludicrous idea, but the situation certainly contains humorous overtones, and it would not be like me to let anything like this pass without comment.

I would like to discuss some material that we have left unfinished, making certain that you understand that there are chemical and electrical reactions resulting from mental enzymes, that are also present in the process of constructing psychic energy into physical construction.

[...] Indeed, under most circumstances they could prove beneficial, although with all good respects for what you have in mind, you would have to literally line the walls with copper in this room.