“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

[...] Presumably, however, when speaking for Seth, Jane would show definite changes in all frequency areas in both hemispheres, with the theta and delta ranges altered the most. We also think that her EEG readings would vary once again when she spoke or sang in Sumari, her trance “language.”

[...] A mixture of brain waves would result. [...] You would follow your own pattern of continuity and understanding, weaving this into the sleep and dream states, forming a “new” pattern that triumphantly combines all, as to some extent this occurs in our sessions.

In an ideal society, each brain wave would be utilized purposefully. You would go to sleep to solve certain problems … There is an overall general difference, nationally speaking — that is, people of various nations do differ to some extent in their prevalent brain frequencies … All in all, however, the beta has predominated, and has been expected to solve many problems unsuited to its own characteristics.

[...] Very simply, delta brain waves are connected with dreamless sleep, theta with creativity and dreams, alpha with a relaxed alertness and changing consciousness; beta — the fastest — with concentration, and with an intense focus upon all of the challenges [and anxieties and stresses, many would say] faced in the ordinary daily world.

[...] You would understand that I am not contradicting myself. You would not say, or (humorously) at least I hope you would not say: “Why would anyone write a composition like Tchaikovsky’s Pathetique?”⁸ Why would a composer choose a somber mood? The music itself would have its own sweep and power, and would indeed be beautiful beyond all concepts of good and evil.

[...] If I said: “Apples sit quietly on a table,” you would have to agree that such is sometimes the case. If I said: “Apples roll down grassy inclines,” you would also have to agree. If I said: “Apples fall down through space,” you would again be forced to concede the point. It would be clear to you that none of these statements contradicted each other, for in different circumstances apples behave differently.

(10:48.) In that case, you see, there would be in another reality a carpenter or his equivalent with a latent love of words, unexpressed — and that individual would then begin to develop; reading books on how to write, perhaps, and taking up a hobby that would allow him to express in words his love of the land and its goods. [...]

[...] (Pause.) A book would be needed to explain the dimensions of the psyche in relation to the different families of consciousness. [...]

[...] Otherwise, free will would be almost inoperable in practical terms: Individuals would be faced by so many choices that any decisions would be nearly impossible. Essentially, the individual would have no particular leaning toward any one action over any other (all with emphasis).

(Long pause.) You can only make so many conscious decisions, or you would be swamped and caught in a constant dilemma of decision making. [...] The awakening mentioned earlier, then, found man rousing from his initial “dreaming condition,” faced suddenly with the need for action in a world of space and time, a world in which choices became inevitable, a world in which he must choose among probable actions—and from an infinite variety of those choose which events he would physically actualize. This would be an almost impossible situation were the species—meaning each species—not given its own avenues of expression and activity, so that it is easier for certain species to behave in certain manners. [...]

[...] Earth’s time reference, however, brought to experience a new brilliant focus—and in the press of time, again, certain activities would be relatively more necessary than others, relatively more pleasant or unpleasant than others. [...]

The inner self would be then any given outthrust of original action outward, as explained earlier. This outthrust would, because of its nature, instantly send further outthrusts in as many directions as possible for it. And because it is action, and because no action can complete itself, and no action can completely materialize, then each outthrust or materialization would result in an in-thrust; not into the original action from which it came, but into itself.

[...] I merely would like to be sure that the correct interpretation is given to the definition. [...]

It is also true however that this lack of boundary allows for possibilities of development and expansion that would be impossible with a limited self. [...]

Because there is no time, as you think of time, we will not say that action retains a memory of all its previous actions or selves, for this would be misleading. [...]

[...] She said Seth had wanted her to pick up the bug herself, but even while dictating she carried the parallel fear that the bug would bite. Just before Jane began dictating again we let Willy into the room again, to see how he would behave. [...]

[...] Otherwise it is possible that the constructions would not all agree, but would gradually be brought into line. [...]

[...] Usually the flashing pictures would emphasize one small portion before my eyes—that is, a tree branch with a cluster of leaves for instance, each of which I would glimpse in sharp and colorful detail. [...]

[...] Jane’s father arrived last Saturday, and as early as Sunday morning Jane announced to me that there would be no session Monday night.

[...] If you were in Ruburt’s position, you would be more willingly regular than he; but my dear Joseph, your critical sense would block me much more than his, particularly in details. And in your position Ruburt would not do as well as you do.

(Jane was upset about her work this evening, so much so in fact that she would have missed the session had I not been too lazy to go dancing. [...]

The inner discipline, the inner utilization of energy, the inner channeling and direction of energy on Ruburt’s part in these sessions, would have been impossible but a few years ago.

[...] Ruburt at this time would not dispense with the sessions, although it is true that he sometimes consciously resents the discipline involved in their regularity.

[...] You knew he would awaken you. [...] If you did not like the experiment, you see, it would have been terminated. [...]

[...] As I lay dozing I gave myself suggestions that I would recall my dreams in the morning and write them down. [...]

[...] I thought that this would be a great time to do something. [...]

[...] Then I had an idea: I would use the sound of my snoring as an impetus to send myself soaring off into other dimensions, leaving my body far behind me on the bed.

Such relationships, disciplined of course, will nevertheless yield richness for both of you that neither of you would get in any other manner. [...] I am going into this matter because it has concerned both of you at various times, and I would like to state that your work will not suffer by expending energy in these other directions.

[...] I would use behind the senses but I believe this would lead to confusion.

[...] Would you like to take a break or would you prefer to end the session? [...]

[...] You should know that I too enjoy a moment of social discourse or I would not keep you so long. [...] However I try to speak to you, Joseph, and answer the questions you would ask if you had the time to open your mouth.

[...] It was necessary because he believed that the spontaneous self, left alone, would not so concentrate—or that his spontaneous self would not, but would also be tempted by whatever other private pursuits. [...]

If you keep Framework 2 in mind, much of these stages can be vastly minimized, and the work with hypnosis that I suggested gives you such a method of inserting data, here, that accelerates motion in Framework 2, and greatly cuts down the time and effort involved in Framework 1. Of course, (with wry amusement) if you each are convinced that the venture was important-enough in your lives, and would get the results, you would have clamored to begin such experiments.

(10:54.) Now Ruburt, because of his beliefs, “artificially” disciplined his muscles so that he would be forced to concentrate upon what it seemed you and he both thought was most important in life—your work.

[...] Even if we could manage this, I fear we’d end up so regimented that half of the tasks would be self-defeating. [...]

Other means would seem closed to him because of various personal beliefs that would form a vacuum in his experience — that is, he would see no other way, perhaps, to achieve the same end. [...]

If emotion could be trusted above conscious reasoning then there would be little point in aware thought at all. You would not need it.

[...] In such a case belief would also be involved: Such a person would have to believe that an unhealthy condition was the best way to serve another purpose.

[...] However, the future event predicted was bound up with a series of events that would have had to occur within that two-day period. Some of these events would have been trivial, but all would have led him toward that predicted big win. There are two men in particular he would have met. [...]

Had your abilities been developed sufficiently, you could have seen through these probable futures into the actual physical future event that would come to pass. [...] The development of your character and of Stephen’s would be drastically reduced.

[...] (Pause.) In the precise moment in which you spoke the words, there was a probability, and a good one, that the event would occur as stated.

(This material concerns a certain horse race in late August; Ferd had predicted Steve would win a bet on this race.)

(We did not know which personality would speak this evening, nor what subjects would be covered. [...]

[...] There were several other issues I would have touched upon, and there is information concerning the entire family that you would find interesting.

The consequences however for the nation and the world would be far more disastrous had these hates and aggressions not found these therapeutic, almost surgical, unfortunately necessary, outlets.

(Note that here Seth implies that Senator Kennedy, who was alive at the time of this session, would die. [...]

It would do him better to cry when he feels like it, fully. [...] He is afraid that such action would put you in a poor mood, but you must both understand that it is therapeutic, and also activates the body in beneficial ways. [...]

Naturally, left alone, men and women would cry without embarrassment, for crying would have no connotations of defeat, any more than the sky is embarrassed when it rains. [...]

[...] It was very small, and dark-colored; she didn’t know whether it would get larger at a later time, or what. [...]

Now, I could not give you this material earlier, for he would not allow it. It would make no impression upon him had I given it, nor would my appearance have convinced him of anything more than what he would consider his own duplicity. [...]

He would make no compromises. [...]

[...] In others the rejection would come close to commitment, but for him this is not enough.

[...] He had to be more certain of our cause before he would allow himself to direct energy into it.

([Ron:] “Are there instances in which a spirit from another reality would intervene in this reality, and we would call that a destructive act, but the spirit would say it was creative?”)

[...] Any such intervention would only occur on the part of a personality who was, for the present time, physical. As indeed mentioned last week, the villain in a religious drama would be a creative figure. But he would exist historically in your time and not, for example, be a ghost whispering in the night. [...]

(Ron:] “In your words, it would be whatever is the most creative in terms of what you want to do.”)

I had two illegitimate children (laughter), a mistress that sneaked into my private studies, a magician that I kept in case I did not do too well on my own, a housekeeper who was pregnant every year that I had her, and three daughters who joined a nunnery because I would not have them, and I am referred to in barely three paltry lines, for my reign did not last very long. [...]

[...] This intense desire would then act something like a core of energy projected outward from your own mind, given a form, your form. The place that you had envisioned would then attract the form, and it would instantaneously stand there. [...]

It would not be seen under usual circumstances. On the other hand, if the desire were still more intense, the energy core would be greater, and a portion of your own flow of consciousness would be imparted to the form, so that for a moment you in your room might suddenly smell the salt air, or in some other way perceive the environment in which this pseudoimage stands.

(10:02 to 10:20.) There are also realities (pause), that are “relatively more valid” than your own; in comparison, strictly for an analogy, for example, your physical table would appear as shadowy in contrast, as [like] those very shadowy tables we imagine. You would have a sort of “supertable” in those terms. [...]

[...] You would think them quite real indeed, if you could see them.

[...] It was most necessary that we go slowly, particularly in the beginning, for if our foundation was not strong we would have never progressed. The whole venture would have been lost. [...]

Whenever it is possible, I would suggest that our gentleman with the ulcer read our last sessions. [...]

[...] The affair will work out much better now, for in the past circumstances would have prevented not his interest, but his availability. [...]

[...] It is developing even better than I had hoped, and our own material will now begin to really develop, for we have enough background to enable us to cover subject matter that would have been impossible at an earlier time. [...]

[...] If you would examine your own beliefs, you would realize why you waited this long, and I am talking about conscious beliefs.

[...] So the answer would be simply that you do not feel the show would be advantageous at this time.

[...] I would like to add here that we did realize that it wasn’t utterly impossible, physically, for Jane to negotiate an appearance on the TV show. But the difficulties involved made it unlikely that we would bother to try this.)

[...] The next morning, I arose with the thought that all our stewing was after all academic—Jane’s symptoms would prevent us from being on the show to begin with —we couldn’t see her physically negotiating airports, taxis, hotels, studios, New York City, etc.)

[...] He would not be content simply to give the details on the snatches of paper as you gave them. [...]

(There were questions, but it seemed the above data would give Jane what information she needed for her book, etc.

[...] The discussion veered around to our wondering how Jane would do under such conditions, when Seth abruptly resumed at 9:50.)

That course would not give the results you might think with Ruburt, or anyone else. [...]

(Jane’s head did not remain still however, but began to tip to one side at times; then she would right it again while seemingly making efforts to speak. [...] If play acting was involved, Jane said later, it was on a completely subconscious level where she would possess no egotistical knowledge that such was transpiring.

[...] She would first whisper or mouth what she wanted to say, then with quite an apparent effort would finally manage to get audible, understandable data through at my urging. [...]

[...] As Seth mentioned in the last session, Jane decided this evening to try to contact a survival personality as a medium would ordinarily for interested observers or relatives.

[...] Jane and I wanted Seth’s assistance in contacting Blanche, without Seth himself speaking, for we thought this would make the session too much like the regular sessions. [...]