“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Jane had laughed, but now she sobered. “They’re real tiny; they’re building what looks like scaffolds in the backs of both of my knees. Now they’ve got bushels of blood, fresh blood, and they’re throwing it into my veins... And now they’re changing electrical fixtures in the back of my spine; and now my knees are lighting up....”

(9:35. “Now they’re pulling out some short muscles between my knees and feet,” Jane said. She touched the sole of a foot. “A lot of it down here had to do with up here, the knees.... It’s funny because all this makes me feel so big. The little men are up under my arm and it feels like its floating up and out; they’re lifting it up, and using a heat lamp on it under the armpit. I feel real good and relaxed there now...”

(“I think I got the wheelchair image about this rocker, too,” Jane said, “because we first got it for your back.... My feet still feel like they’re resting on air, but I know they’re not,” she said, looking down.

(9:25. “I’ve been doing something else,” she said after a lengthy pause. “Wait a minute... Then I was behind my head. I rushed down my own spinal cord, into my body. Then I saw a lot of little tiny men. This is hilarious. They were inside my knees, with hoses, washing out my knees with crystal clear, pure water. Then they went to the back of my neck... Now they’re climbing up the bones of my spinal column and straightening them out and doing things...”

[...] “I think we’re surrounded by all kinds of evidence to that effect. [...] You’re now about 90% helpless, so you’re—we’re—not solving the problems, are we? [...]

(“And don’t tell me you’re present state means that you’re getting better — like Seth does—because you’re not. Don’t have Seth tell me in the sessions that you’re working out problems and that we’ll soon see improvements, because it doesn’t happen. [...]

[...] What I think—and have, often lately—about illness is that we know so little about it that we’re still literally in the dark ages in that respect. [...] In the meantime we’re groping around in the dark. [...]

[...] But I’m shocked at what you’re saying.” [...]

[...] “But it’s good that they’re there,” I said. “It means you’re expressing them, even if they are unpleasant. [...]

[...] Then I get the feeling that scares you even more—that you’re scared to death of the hospital, and yet you’re afraid to dismiss your doctor and say to hell with the whole bit—I must be hiding stuff, see, because I’m getting ready to cry, because the time might come when you couldn’t stand it any more, and you’d have to do it—go back to the hospital—go through it all again—then I just tell myself I’d make out again, just like millions of people....” [...]

(“My most hopeful feeling is that when you give it all up the panic comes up again, and then you’re making progress. [...]

[...] But I always feel their presences, as if they’re really there....” [...]

[...] There’s something you have when you’re doing it that you don’t have when you read it afterward, when you’re outside of it. When you’re doing it you’re inside of it.”

[...] “Because you’re going to do all the work on the book. [...] I’ll do an intro if you want, and you can too, or you-know-who can also — but you’re going to be the one who does that book.”

[...] Lynn said the hospital even has a list of Russian words, but that Karina doesn’t respond adequately to them — perhaps they’re poorly pronounced, say.

We don’t know how things work re turning in a thesis, etc., as you mention in your letter, but you have our best wishes. We assume it means you have done all your work and are now just waiting for formalities, etc., re that great day! [...]

[...] Jane has been snowed under with work, correspondence, classes, etc., so I have taken it upon myself to help her out re letters. [...]

[...] At the same time, I get angry when I think we’re being manipulated, and so forth. [...] I don’t want to change our present situation here in the hospital when we’re getting results, so I don’t really know what to do....”)

[...] “These people all speak their own languages,” he said, “and if you’re on the outside you don’t know what they’re saying.” [...]

[...] Above all, I said, we’re not going to do anything that will compromise our case against the insurance claim. [...]

[...] As I told Jane when I got back to 330 around 3:00, all even the Infirmary wants is the money—that’s why they’re suddenly interested in her, because her name is moved up the list, and they know that somehow they’ll make a profit on the deal, either through self-pay, insurance, or whatnot. [...]

[...] But if you’re waiting for me to have Seth come through, you should be as anxious to hear your own inner selves come through. And if I show to you various quite different aspects of personality, then you should feel them in yourselves, because they’re all yours. You’re just so used to concentrating on this one part of you that you insist is yourself, that you are not able to make these shifts. [...]

([Jane:] “I think if we leave our experiences at face value, we’re not learning all we can. [...]

[...] And if that’s all you’re afraid of, then there’s nothing to fear. [...]

“If I could just get, if I could just get any of you, you particularly, because you’re brand new, I don’t know you. [...]

We learned the methods
so long ago
that they’re unconscious,
and we’ve hypnotized ourselves
into believing
that we’re the audience,
so I wonder where we served
our apprenticeship.
Under what master magicians did we learn
to form reality
so smoothly that we forgot to tell ourselves
the secret?

[...] You know that we’re bugs on records, so that we have something concrete to go on when we write about things—and we will be writing about these late events. [...]

[...] We’re so busy now I shrink from even thinking of trying to do that any more. [...]

[...] In other words, we’re quite happy to go along with things as they develop, trying to keep ourselves open to Framework 2, you might say. [...]

(“But what do you do when you’re faced with that kind of treatment in a place where you can’t walk out if you disagree with it?” I asked. “That’s when you’re stuck … We’re a long ways from having any medical profession think about the body like Seth does, or even like we do.”

[...] Her eyes don’t look as red, but she said they’re bothering her a great deal. [...]

[...] I think that what you’re doing in the dream state, with what some of us are doing, is really great. [...] And I found out on building up this helper, you’re all building up also your own helpers in those terms, that you can use. [...]

[...] And they did get the feeling that we do get when we’re doing it here. [...]

[...] You’re sure of that, right? [...]

(Here Seth referred to a discussion before the session, concerning the time element and his predictions re John Bradley, Searle, etc., in various previous sessions.)

[...] John said Seth was correct re the impression of a new account. [...]

(John could not offer any data re any new products by Searle. [...]

(After John B. had left, Jane said she felt that many of Seth’s predictions re John & Searle would work out soon, & all at once. [...]

[...] “You’re so strange. [...] You’re very close-mouthed: You don’t blab our personal business, but you’d do that…. Instead, I see us when I’m 80 and you’re 90, out in the back yard, burning it all.”

(Although this is a private session that Jane and I are filing separately from “regular” material, we’re also presenting it in Mass Events because of the many insights Seth offers into individual and mass events in general, and into our personal realities in particular. [...] So in that sense this session contains more of those insights into the how and why of the Seth material that we’re always searching for. [...]

[...] when you’re at that level—and that.... [...]

[...] And—my eyes looked good enough so that I didn’t need to hide them with sunglasses; anyhow they are much better—in the last day or so they’re easier, I can feel them move easier.

[...] If for you the image becomes different or if you’re doing your own thing, that’s great, then follow it, and simply use my voice as a yardstick, as something to connect you to the room. [...]

[...]  Unfocus your attention in the usual physical environment in which your’re involved. [...]

[...] The feelings themselves can be clues, so that when you feel them again they’re familiar. [...]

“Why not catch yourself with knowledge you’re not supposed to have?” I suggested.

[...] You might find that you have proof of precognition in your own life that you’re ignoring.”

Of Master Magicians
whose conjurings
feature the amazing tricks
of space and time,
produced so skillfully
and fast
that we’re dazzled with
the effects,
and miss the magical
slights of hand
beneath
the flashy gestures
of the days and nights.

(Coupled with all of these things is the three-part article we’re reading in The New Yorker on the travails of publishing these days; the large sums involved, books being treated as “products,” etc. According to that information, we’re so far out of it in any meaningful way that we’re left feeling quite inadequate. [...]

[...] According to Tam, we’re not supposed to know anything about much of what he’s been telling us of the fuss over the disclaimer.

[...] Every so often I do get glimpses, imperfect ones, that living is easy, that we are safe, each and every one of us, that we’re never annihilated, that mundane worries about money, insurance, jobs, and so forth are in deeper terms quite beside the point. [...] We pursue them for many varied reasons—but they are not the end-all or be-all by any means, as we’re so used to regarding them. [...]

(I also told Jane Steve Blumenthal called this morning, upon receiving the letter from Saul Cohen re not approving the tape deal. [...]

(Add Data—October 11—call to Jane from Timothy Foote, of Time Magazine —re cover story on Dick Bach. Timothy Foote to fly here Friday, October 13, etc., to call back re plane schedules. [...]

[...] It goes on at some level between us, beneath consciousness—this thing of deciding what we’re going to do next.”)

(Note: In December, 1972, a fan sent Jane a letter he received from F. Fell re the ESP paperback. [...]

[...] Not that we’re averse to these things, but to have them stated so baldly....

[...] “I think I could have a session, a short one, if you’re up to it. I know you’re tired, but maybe I can do it. [...]