“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Seth II:)(Words lost)...observed then realize that we are highly interested in such experiments as Seth is conducting, and that as we observe you, so do you, though unconsciously, observe other realities in your sleep state. If our reality seems strange to you then yours seems strange to us. We move through systems such as yours faster than the speed of light, and so what I am saying is already a translation and, in your terms, a message left in the past of your time. Your own consciousness also travels faster than the speed of light, and big portions of you does understand, to some degree, the nature of our reality. At least it has an innate comprehension of the probabilities in which you exist. There are portions of your own identity, in other terms, that dwell in these probable systems that have not known physical reality and that come to observe those portions of itself that have so developed in that fashion. And so do we observe and does yourself serve as a translator in our behalf. Unfortunately, we do not communicate easily with the portion of you that can understand. You are not in communication with that portion of yourselves that is not physical, that was never physical and that will not know physical existence at all, and since you identify with the physical self then, indeed, we come to you in the guise of ghosts that you do not understand our forms that you cannot see. And yet, since we seeded the universe in which you have your present existence then do we observe, and do we watch, and do we have concern.

[...] However, when you examine animal behavior even in its most natural-seeming environment, for instance, you are not observing the basic behavior patterns of such creatures, because those relatively isolated areas exist in your world. Quite simply, you cannot have one or two or twenty officially-designated natural regions in which you observe animal activity, and expect to find anything more than the current adaptation of those creatures — an adaptation that is superimposed upon their “natural” reactions.

[...] Such isolated observation areas merely present you with a distorted picture of natural behavior, because the animals are also imprisoned within them. [...]

[...] When he studies such animal behavior, however, and sometimes uses the sexual patterns of the animals to make certain points about human sexuality, then man does not take this into consideration, but speaks as if the present observed animal behavior is the indication of a prime or basic nature inherent in their biology.

[...] At times during regular sessions, I have introduced effects, but for various reasons you have either failed to observe them, or have not been able to.

[...] I observed no change in or about Jane. [...]

(For some little time longer we waited without observing any change relating to Jane. [...]

[...] The observer and the object perceived are a part of the same event, each changing the other. [...] In certain terms, for example, even an electron “knows” it is being observed through your instrument. [...]

Quite apart from that, however, there is what we will call for now the collective unconscious of all of the electrons that compose the entire seemingly separate event of the scientists observing the electron. [...]

[...] “Subatomic particles,” however, appear in your present, rippling into your system’s dimensions, creating their own “tracks,” which scientists then try to observe. In some cases, unknowingly, your scientists are close to observing the birth of time effects within your system. [...]

[...] Their wavelike characteristics are not observed. [...] From your point of view these are alternate passageways, but in the dream state they allow you to perceive as physical matter objects that in the waking state would not be observable.

[...] So can the human self appear in several places at once,⁵ each such appearance subtly altering the “human” particle, so that each appearance is a version of an “original” self that as itself never appears in those terms.⁶ When you look at an electron — figuratively speaking — you are observing a trace or a track of something else entirely, and that appearance is termed an electron. [...]

[...] These are observed by the physical senses of yourself and others. You can therefore check your inner status by observing your outer status. [...]

[...] The intensity that first generated, say, a painting, continues to operate and there is new creation sparked in the interchange between such a painting and each observer of it.

The book should cover your version of our joint experience — your own philosophical explanation of it, the questions it arouses within your own mind, your observations of Ruburt as Jane and in our trance states. [...]

Give some thought to experimentation, observing the nature of color in usual consciousness and in altered states. [...]

One point: your friend the Jesuit (Bill Gallagher)—his symptom is hidden within his tissue, and not physically observable. [...] Ruburt chose more observable symptoms. [...] The kind of symptom and its observability is often a clue as to the problem and to the individual’s attitude toward it. [...]

(Jane has long slim fingers with spaces easily observable between them close to the palms. [...]

Using air again as a simple analogy to our fuel for the inner senses, which is converted by the various countries or planes for their own purposes and therefore camouflaged, air in its pure state is not observed easily. [...]

[...] No one has seen wind but since at times its effects are so observable it would be idiocy to say that wind did not exist. [...]

[...] You cannot observe this actual psychological experience with the outer senses. [...] You cannot observe it in any objective manner, as you can observe a pencil on a table, yet it would be foolish to say that this psychological experience did not exist. It is too vivid to ignore, and oftentimes the personality is almost divorced from action because of this experience that is psychological, that cannot be observed with instruments, or even by the person involved.

Almost everyone is familiar with something else, however, and that is the psychological experience which may have no observable physical effect, and yet can change a personality to a large degree. [...]

[...] Some physical effects, and again even these are secondary effects, may be observed as far as the emotions are concerned, in that pulses may quicken, certain chemicals and hormones may quicken their activity.

[...] I ask those of you who are ready to follow with me as we have observed you then in your own way as you are able follow us. We are trying to not observe, as much as appreciate, the nature of your present existence; so those of you who are curious and willing about the nature of nonphysical reality then follow as far as you can, using the voice as a guideline into existence that has no reality in physical terms, that knows neither blood nor tissue, that knows not hand or finger or arm. [...]

[...] Such growth is a natural manifestation flourishing within your particular area of actuality, observable to your senses. [...] Probabilities involve you with a rich psychological growth and development, present but not observable in your “home ground.” [...]

[...] The natives of the area, using such caves for natural shelter, could therefore be observed without danger. [...]

There were frequent peepholes, so to speak, through to the surface, from which they could make observations, and cameras situated there that kept the most precise pictures not only of the earth, but of the stars.

An observer could automatically translate the sounds before he bothered with the visual image, if he wanted to. [...]

Here we see purpose, strong intent, and despite the ins-and-outs with mood, and the youthful wandering, the same purpose to write, to express oneself, to observe, and to stand apart from the mainstream of American life.

[...] Both of you, before you met, knew that you wanted to study and observe from your own viewpoints. [...]

[...] To communicate with them on one level, while at other levels you preferred solitude, painting and writing; and you always observed. [...]

[...] When it seems to you that others are observing you, you are observing yourself from the standpoint of your own projections.

(I’ll indicate Jane’s various states of consciousness as I usually do in these sessions, but the notes can only be hints from an interested observer. [...]

[...] The observable relaxation periods therefore momentarily ceased. [...]

Now: someone might fall down and badly jar the head or neck area, in which case you have an observable bruise, or wound or whatever. Over a period of time Ruburt’s anxieties brought about a like condition, but not observable in the same fashion.

(In trying to be objective, I can say that perhaps the change I became aware of was partly observed, partly subjective. [...] Whereas I had not observed any changes in the first half of the session, I now thought her features lost some of their feminine characteristics and became more angular and drawn, as though a masculine presence was making itself seen deliberately. [...] I felt that possibly I was being observed by a masculine personality through the eyes, deliberately. [...] I was, actually, more concerned with trying to decipher what change I was observing, than wondering if there was a change to be seen.

[...] I observed my own set of changes later. It is my thought, at least at the moment, that Bill’s observations and my own would not coincide. [...]

[...] I had not observed any change in Jane’s features, the few times I had managed to take a look. [...]

[...] When we left Jane forgot her pocketbook and Marilyn returned it Saturday morning; she had her son with her and Jane had more time to observe him. [...]

[...] To the actors, of course, their roles become strong parts of their personal experiences, while those who observe the plays take part largely as observers.

[...] As you do not know what happens in the television studio before you observe a program, however, so you do not know what happens in the creative framework of reality before you experience physical events. [...]