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(“Man was created by God, so that nature only had meaning in relationship to man—man was dominant. [...] The universe wasn’t created by God, and man and nature alike had no meaning, so that thematically man went from being the center of the universe, a special creature, created by God, to a meaningless conglomeration of atoms and molecules, and a meaningless universe, and that philosophical drop was shattering to man. So he’s now actually in the process of forming a new model of the universe between those two extremes—one that recognizes that each portion of the universe has meaning in relationship to all of its other parts, but that the meaning can’t necessarily be deduced by an examination of exterior appearances, but only in so far as man examines the nature of his own consciousness in its relationship to other species—to nature itself, to the objective universe, and begins to understand the vital nature of interrelatedness, within which the process of divinity is actualized.”

He understands the nature of death, as in their way all animals do, but he does not understand frightening pictures of imagined illnesses that do not exist in his present, or worries about death that is not as yet to be encountered. Again, he is like all animals, filled himself with unbounded, natural biological optimism, and when that biological support is allowed its freedom, you have people performing into the very latest of years, with vitality, agility, and an elegance that only age can provide.

[...] Jane came out of trance quickly, but before I could even tell her how good I thought the session was, she now told me that lately she’s been picking up from Seth that animal consciousness is turned inward to form the civilization of nature, and that ours is turned outward into our physical civilizations—but that ours have to be built upon that civilization of nature. [...]

[...] She brought with her a batch of papers Leonard Yaudes had saved for us; naturally our talk revolved around Leonard’s recent heart bypass operation—see the opening notes for sessions 894-97, for example, and my own reactions to Leonard’s situation.

The more you liberate yourselves from such ideas, the freer you will become, the stronger your natural bodies, the more alive your natural selves. Remember Framework 2, for its vast creative nature can help provide the impetus to help break through such limiting beliefs. [...]

[...] Ask your natural persons to express their vitality and exuberance, and refuse to dampen their experience by frightening them with paper dragons. [...]

End of session (louder), and a natural good evening. [...]

[...] Allow yourself to feel the spontaneous nature of your being. [...] Feel the vitality that is within you show itself in those forms that are natural to it whether they be imaginative, intellectual or feeling reality. [...] They will lead naturally, spontaneously, to a spirituality that is a natural outgrowth of present experience. In this manner the natural world that you know will become a threshold of what you call spiritual activity and not a barrier to it. [...]

[...] And in one you would have devoted your existence to studying the inner nature of reality. [...] Now to the extreme you would have joined an order, for awhile, of a religious nature and later you would have left it. [...] Your questioning nature would have followed the aesthetic life with devotion and without deviation. [...]

The ordinary experiences that come to you as you go about your day come to you from beyond both the conscious and subconscious self, and they have come so naturally, as they should, that you did not realize their intrusive nature. [...]

[...] Now you can feel them free, recognize them, allow them their legitimate nature at this point in your reality and then use them. [...]

3. Jane and I regret that we’ve deprived our guest of the protected and warm—if not natural—habitat it had chosen. [...] I told my wife I’m particularly pleased that even though we live within the confines of a small city, we’re also in close contact with the natural world and its creatures. [...] Yet beliefs rule all: Evidently, even with all of the challenges that crowding can set up, it’s just as natural for people to congregate as it is for them to live spread out—perhaps even more so, if one facet of their behavior can be said to be “more natural” than another!

(A note: I’m not referring to the ordinary scientific concept of naturalism here—that the so-called natural world is all that exists. Indeed, Jane and I insist that the ingredients of the nature we think we look out upon are entirely creative and spiritual—a state of affairs profoundly different from that advocated in orthodox naturalism!)

If man paid more attention to his own subjective behavior, to those feelings of identification with nature that persistently arise, then half of the dictates of both the evolutionists and the creationists would automatically fall away, for they would appear nonsensical.⁴ It is not a matter of outlining a whole new series of methods that will allow you to increase your psychic abilities, or to remember your dreams, or to perform out-of-body gymnastics. It is rather a question or a matter of completely altering your approach to life, so that you no longer block out such natural spontaneous activity.

[...] There is a give-and-take between the seemingly separate mental and physical aspects of your lives at every level of experience, and at every level within nature’s seeming boundaries.

(8:43.) In that framework it almost seems as if the most natural wish would be the wish to live one life for some kind of eternal duration. In that framework it seems as if people are cut down in their primes often, despite their own wishes, desires or intents, and it is taken for granted that death is the undesired, unwanted, unsought victor over creatures whose natural desires lead them to fight for natural survival at all costs. Certainly this suggests an almost unbearable cruelty, thrust upon nature’s framework. [...]

[...] In the framework of general beliefs, however, the natural desire for death is not included in the list of human motivations. Often such a desire comes naturally and passes naturally several times in a lifetime. [...]

Following brief insights concerning these ideas, Ruburt found himself mentally making this kind of statement to himself (colon): I accept my natural agility wholeheartedly. [...] I accept the natural ability to relax normally, wholeheartedly. [...]

[...] Nothing in nature is wasted. There is no such thing as a wasted life, no matter how it might appear, and while the desire for death is a natural one, it can also serve at various stages as one that extends any given life for a while by clearing away old debris. [...]

[...] The body naturally heals itself, for example. [...] In actuality, however, most of you believe — and experience — a far different picture, in which the body must be protected at all costs from a natural leaning toward disease and poor health. [...] The natural healing that often occurs in the dream state is undone in the waking state, in which any such cure is seen as “miraculous” and against “the rules.”

For that matter, the body is naturally well-equipped to handle “projection of consciousness,” or out-of-body travel, whatever you prefer to call it. [...] These mechanisms are a part of the nature of animals as well. [...]

[...] You still try to carry your own cultural versions of reality into the dream state, for example, but the natural heritage of both body and mind escapes such repression — and despite yourselves, in your dreams you come in touch with a greater picture of reality that will not be shunted aside.

[...] When such seeming miracles occur, it is because you have transcended your usual official beliefs about your body and its health, and disease, and so allowed nature to take its course. [...]

[...] When this happens through natural hypnosis, then even the psychic territory of power can be assailed. Here the individual becomes thoroughly aroused, threatened, and realizes for the first time perhaps the nature of belief and his or her predicament. [...]

Furthermore, the natural elements of sun, air, and earth are refused him. [...] But as there are natural healing processes within animals, so there are in your race.

When and if it is killed by its brothers, this is not an act of cruelty but an innate understanding that the creature can no longer operate physically without agony; a quite natural euthanasia is involved, in which the “patient” also acquiesces. In your society such a natural death is most difficult, and because of the power structures can hardly be promoted. [...]

(Pause.) In all of these areas the problem, whatever its nature or cause, is in one way or another “magically” transferred to another facet of activity, projected away from the self. [...]

There are points to be considered also in the Levine affair, for our bemused Dr. Levine would cut out all of nature, you think, if he had the chance, and as Ruburt said, sterilize the neighborhood. [...] You both do need privacy for your work and because of your natures, but if you try to find a home with no dogs or children within miles, then in another way you are doing what Sam Levine is trying to do, only in your own way. [...]

Now: the hill environment has open nature. [...] Nature there is sunny.

The aspects of nature there are important, however. [...]

[...] There are good paintings to be found from the house, in terms of landscapes, and natural walks. [...]

I do not want to romanticize nonhuman life either, or to overestimate its resources, but nature also has its own ways — and in those ways it constantly works toward survival of life in general. Nature may not bail you out, but it will always be there, adding its own vitality and strength to the overall good and health of the planet.

These may be “highflying” goals, however they are positive in nature, aimed toward accomplishment and achievement, and they collect the energies of the people together in a way that stresses cooperation and understanding.

[...] Once again, then, ideas of the most optimistic nature are the biologically pertinent ones.

This is a good place to bring up again some extreme food practices, such as overfasting, and an obsession with so-called natural foods.

[...] Such feelings can then for a while override his natural inclinations and his natural enjoyment and his natural excitement with which he otherwise views our sessions. [...]

(Pause.) You had some time ago an old newspaper article you had saved, on the dangers of using the words “should” or “would” too often—and there is perhaps nothing else you could do that is as detrimental to the true development of the natural self. [...] The idea of responsibility, as described here, blocks creativity, hampers natural psychic and physical flow: “I should be doing thus and so.” [...]

If you would remember natural selves, and your own characteristics, you would have a much better, clearer idea of what to realistically expect from yourselves, and you would let other ideas go when they conflict with your own quite definite inclinations. The full potentials of Ruburt’s abilities and of our work will result from following the natural contours of your beings, from whose resources your own individual and joint problems can also be eradicated. [...]

Now: generally speaking, Ruburt enjoys our sessions, and considers them with a natural zest. [...]

[...] You must look to the natural universe that you know. You must look with your intuitions and creative instincts at the creatures about you, seeing them not as other species with certain habits, not as inferior properties of the earth, to be dissected, but as living examples of the nature of the universe, in constant being and transformation.

[...] The poet’s view of the universe and of nature is more scientific, then, than the scientists’, for more of nature is comprehended.

[...] Yet by their nature such categories structure your experience of reality itself to such an extent that any alternate ways of perceiving life seem not only untrustworthy, but completely impossible.

[...] Now these serve as quite handy reference points, but basically speaking they in no way affect the natural experience of those various living creatures that you refer to as “other species.”

[...] They do not necessarily make themselves known with great clamor or fanfare, but suddenly the most innocuous, innocent birdsong or the sight of a leaf might reveal knowledge of the profoundest nature. It is ironic, then, that many people who seek to discover the “hidden” mysteries of nature ignore nature itself, or consider the physical body as gross or somehow composed of lesser vibrations.

[...] The word “abandon” itself may strike some readers as particularly strong, but each element of nature abandons itself to the lifeform. [...] To abandon yourself, then, to the power of your own life, is to rely upon the great forces within and yet beyond nature that gave birth to the universe and to you.

The natural world itself is a gateway to other realities. [...] In fact, the natural world is itself a part of other realities, and the source of all realities is as present in your existence as in any other.

(Long pause at 3:26.) The will to live is also inbred into each element of nature, and if you trust your own spontaneity, then that will to be is joyfully released and expressed through all of your activities. [...]

The few distractions of any vital nature then can be handled. [...] You will have a decent policy to follow—and there is none better because it will be dictated by your own individual nature.

[...] If you follow my advice, a natural balance will result. [...] Your guests will be enjoyed because you will see them when you naturally feel so inclined.

[...] You would not force yourself to work on those occasions, for your natural need for play of some kind —outings or guests—would then assert themselves. [...]

[...] It represents a way of handling your energy that is native to your own being, and permits creativity its easiest, most natural flow.

[...] (Pause.) What you are dealing with, then, in creativity is a continuing kind of psychic play, an activity that probes into the nature of inner reality and explores it with as much sheer vitality as that with which the child explores physical reality. The child runs, falls down, skips, spins, climbs, swings, tries out its body in as many ways as possible, and naturally explores the body’s relationship with its environment. [...]

[...] The natural impulses were allowed their free play. [...] The concerns of the world, its progress or lack of it, the nature of existence—none of those issues would interfere with such an artistic vision. [...]

(Pause.) Because of his beliefs he considered himself somewhat of a failure, and the rich, evocative nature of his own stories did not meet with the approval of his academically attuned mind. [...]

[...] No one has to tell a child to play, for playing comes naturally. [...]

New paragraph: Despite all “realistic” pragmatic tales to the contrary, the natural state of life itself is one of joy, acquiescence with itself — a state in which action is effective, and the power to act is a natural right. [...] That activity naturally promotes health and vitality.

In a natural state, many children would die stillborn for the same reasons, or would be naturally aborted. There is a give-and-take between all elements of nature, so that such individuals often choose mothers, for example, who perhaps wanted the experience of pregnancy but not of birth — where they choose the experience of the fetus but not necessarily [that] of the child. [...]

There are also even deeper biological connections with the heart of nature. [...] In that regard your consciousness is as natural as your toe. [...]

The sight of the dying gave them visions of the meaning of life, and stirred new [ideas] of sociological, political, and spiritual natures, so that in your terms the dead did not die in vain. Epidemics by their public nature speak of public problems — problems that sociologically threaten to sweep the individual to psychic disaster as the physical materialization does biologically.

(Long pause.) You know that the natural world changes its form constantly. Objects, however, follow certain laws of a physical nature as you experience them, just as violets on the ground do not suddenly change into rocks.

Again, I do not mean to deny the validity of that experience, but to point out its specialized nature. By its nature, however, that precise specialization and tuning of consciousness in to space and time largely precludes other less-specialized encounters with realities. [...]

[...] The mind follows its natural bents. [...] At the same time dreaming is an art of the highest nature, in which all are proficient. [...]

[...] They fall in patterns, forming themselves naturally into the dream contents that fit the contours of your own mind. [...]

[...] To some extent this was quite natural, for the new species developed in order to change the nature of its consciousness, to follow a reality in which instinct was no longer “blindly” followed, and to individualize in strong personal focus corporeal experience that had previously taken a different pattern.

[...] He forms his reality according to his conscious beliefs, even while its basis lies in the deep unconscious nature of the earth in corporeal terms. Man’s “I am,” [seemingly] apart from nature — a characteristic necessary for the development of his kind of consciousness — led him into value judgments, and also necessitated some break with the deep inner certainties of other species.

[...] Last night, we had reminders that a natural rhythmic cycle was completing itself six months later: As we retired I thought I heard the barking of geese migrating north, although Jane didn’t. I woke up around four a.m., though, and heard a flight clearly in the silent hour. [...]

[...] There is a difference in the overall health patterns in men and animals because of the quite diverse nature of their physical experience. [...]

[...] And so when man learned to categorize, number and dissect nature, he lost its living quality and no longer felt a part of it. To some important extent he denied his heritage, for spirit is born into nature and the soul, and for a time resides in flesh.

Man’s thoughts no longer seemed to have any effect upon nature because in his mind he saw himself apart from it. In an ambiguous fashion, while concentrating upon nature’s exterior aspects in a very conscious manner, he still ended up denying the conscious powers of his own mind. [...]

Nature became then an adversary that he must control. Yet underneath he felt that he was at the mercy of nature, because in cutting himself off from it he also cut himself off from using many of his own abilities.

It was at this point that the nature of the conscious mind itself became so misunderstood, and those unrecognized or denied powers were assigned to unconscious portions of the self by ensuing schools of psychology. (With emphasis:) Very natural functions of the conscious mind, therefore, were assigned to the “underground” and cut off from normal use.

When people profess an interest in the nature of dreams, they usually have certain set questions in mind, such as: “How real are dream events?” “What do dreams mean?” “How do they affect daily life?” Each person is aware of the astonishingly intimate nature of dreams. [...]

The smallest unit of pure energy, therefore, weighing nothing in your terms, containing within itself no mass, would hold within its own nature the propensity for the creation of matter in all of its forms, the impetus to create all possible universes. In those terms, energy cannot be considered without bringing to the forefront questions concerning the nature of God or All That Is, for the terms are synonymous.

[...] In historic terms the changing nature of accepted events provides far more than, say, a history of civilization, but mirrors the ever-creative nature of the psyche.

[...] The nature of creativity itself is involved, and the characteristics of energy, without which no action is possible.

[...] As a result he does not understand the greater natural mobility he himself possesses, nor can he practically perceive the natural psychological gestalts of which he is a part, that form all of your natural — meaning physical — world.

[...] There are no such limits naturally set about your consciousness.

[...] There are connections, then, between man and the animals and the so-called gods (in small letters), that hint at psychological and natural realities.

The natural structures of the earth are formed as the result of the biological cooperation of all species, and consciousness itself is independent of any of the forms that it may at one time or another assume.