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It is true that some native populations — particularly in the past — were free of many of the childhood diseases that are considered natural by western medicine. It is also true, of course, that some primitive societies have lost large numbers of their populations to disease. Some of those instances, however, were caused precisely by the sudden introduction of western medicine.

I am not condemning western medicine per se, however, but merely pointing out its many detrimental aspects. Medicinal science is also in a state of transition, and it is just as important — if not more so — that it examine its concepts as well as its techniques.

[...] In the nightmare a doctor said I’d have to get a certain shot or vaccine as preventative medicine though he regretted having to do it. [...] (I think the idea was that increased symptoms were “preventive” medicine against a greater feared event or condition....)

[...] Any unfortunate situations in the fields of medicine, science, or religion result not from any determined effort to sabotage the “idea,” but instead happen because men often believe that any means is justified in the pursuit of the ideal.

[...] The same applies to medicine, of course, when in its worthy purpose to save life, its methods often lead to quite unworthy experimentation (see Note 3 for Session 850), so that life is destroyed for the sake of saving, say, a greater number of lives. [...]

(Pause.) This is carried through in economics, politics, medicine, the sciences, and even the religions. [...]

[...] There is a medicine, however, that will stop his pain. As long as it is effective, the medicine further convinces him that his stomach difficulty can only be relieved in this fashion.

[...] Each of the systems uses paraphernalia — gestures, medicine, treatment — that are the exterior manifestations of beliefs shared by healer and patient alike.

[...] The child need not know what particular vitamin is being given, or the name for his disease, but if he believes in the physician and Western medicine he will indeed improve, and he will need the vitamins from then on. [...]

[...] Often, therefore, preventative medicine causes what it hopes to avoid. [...]

At certain times, and most particularly at the birth of medical science in modern times, the belief in inoculation, if not by the populace then by the doctors, did possess the great strength of new suggestion and hope — but I am afraid that scientific medicine has caused as many new diseases as it has cured. [...]

[...] The physician is also visited by people who do not want to get well, and use the doctor and his methods as justification for further illness, saying: “The doctor is no good,” or “The medicine will not work,” therefore blaming the doctor for a way of life they have no intention of changing.

[...] At 4:30 I rang for an aide, since the medicine bag was empty on its pole at the head of Jane’s bed. [...]

[...] Carla came in with the supper tray, and we told her about the medicine bag being empty. [...]

[...] The whole situation could be incidental and the medicine might have had no effect on the problem. [...]

Now: in large part inoculation, and that type of preventative medicine, is the result of your particular methods of dealing with the world.

[...] In many cases, whenever your culture and so-called primitive ones have met, inoculations worked, whether or not the natives believed in a particular inoculation, because they do believe in the “white man’s superior power,” and were as hypnotized by the white doctor’s mystique as they were by their medicine men.

[...] Animals in fact suffer greatly, for they often become so terrified of modern methods of medicine that an inoculation against one disease promptly brings about the occurrence of another.

[...] Medicine done.

It is one thing to understand the imperfections of medicine, but quite another if you are not willing to take one to two hours a week to work with techniques that are highly important to improve your own health. [...]

3. To consider: my worries when Seth was dictating Events about the effect of his ideas on medicine and impulses on others. [...]

This does not mean that I am asking parents to substitute imaginary medicine for real medicine, though indeed, I repeat, it may be quite as effective. In your society, however, it would be almost impossible to get along without medicine or medical science.

(Long pause at 9:52.) It might seem in the short run that drugs and medicines are a great value—and they can indeed be extremely helpful. [...]

[...] A person “cured” of bad symptoms then through conventional medicine might actually be interrupting a natural movement toward a larger overall health, by dismissing the particular annoying symptoms that serve as chosen reference points.

[...] Remembering well the barrage of negative suggestions that passes for preventative medicine — the public service announcements about cancer — she was filled with foreboding. [...] He suggested X-rays, however, “just to be on the safe side,” and so her body was treated to a basically unnecessary dose of radiation in the name of preventative medicine.

Medicine men may do a rain dance. [...]

A truly enjoyable vacation is indeed the best medicine now for reasons given. [...]

[...] In your terms you worked out this possibility by weaving, over a period of three years, a dream framework in which you learned exactly what your life would have been, had you gone into medicine.

(I had no conscious memories of being interested in medicine while in my teens, but then neither do I recall dreams from that period. [...]

[...] I accept everything in the book—his opinions on medicine, etc.—but I think I felt that if I was going to tell it like it was—and I was, was determined to, then I also needed more protection from the world—and began cutting down mobility again. [...]

[...] Jane had heard the medicine cart in the hall, but a few minutes passed before a nurse came in with the Darvoset. [...]

[...] Those visitations, however, show you in quite clear light that the medical profession’s idea of preventive medicine can often lead precisely to the conditions they seemingly wish to avoid. [...]

[...] I think that many of his suggestions are automatically falling into place in our lives, too, and that our “crash course in medicine” has served as an invaluable trigger and impetus in that regard. [...]