“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Long pause at 11:22.) Give us a moment… Speaking historically in your terms, man first identified with nature, and loved it, for he saw it as an extension of himself even while he felt himself a part of its expression. In exploring it he explored himself also. He did not identify as himself alone, but because of his love, he identified also with all those portions of nature with which he came into contact. This love was biologically ingrained in him, and is even now biologically pertinent.

In your world you identify as yourself only, and yet love can expand that identification to such an extent that the intimate awareness of another individual is often a significant portion of your own consciousness. You look outward at the world not only through your eyes, but also, to some extent at least, through the eyes of another. It is true to say, then, that a portion of you figuratively walks with this other person as he or she goes about separate from you in space.

(11:39.) Generally you experience the self as isolated from nature, and primarily enclosed within your skin. Early man did not feel like an empty shell, and yet selfhood existed for him as much outside of the body as within it. There was a constant interaction. It is easy to say to you that such people could identify, say, with the trees, but an entirely different thing to try to explain what it would be like for a mother to become so a part of the tree underneath which her children played that she could keep track of them from the tree’s viewpoint, though she was herself far away.

You can imagine atoms and molecules forming objects with little difficulty. In the same way, however, portions of identified consciousness can also mix and merge, forming alliances.

When consciousness becomes overly exteriorized and no longer identifies strongly with nature, then it no longer properly identifies itself with the inner nature of its own actions. [...]

[...] He identified with natural events. [...]

When man identified with the grandeur and energy of nature, then he knew nature’s reasons, for they were his own as well. [...]

The first Gods began the process of man’s exterior consciousness, so that the portions of nature with which he no longer identified were gradually deified, and put outside of himself. [...]

The child first explores the components of its psychological environment, the inside stuff of subjective knowledge, and claims that inner territory, but the child does not identify its basic being with either its feelings or its thoughts. [...] (Still intently): They can disentangle themselves because they have not as yet identified their basic beings with life experience. [...]

[...] You identify yourselves with your intellect, primarily, casting aside as much as possible other equally vital elements of your personhood.

New sentence: In your historical past, when man identified his identity with the soul, he actually gave himself greater leeway in terms of psychological mobility, but eventually the concept of the soul as held resulted in a distrust of the intellect. [...]

[...] The child identifies with its own psychic reality first of all — then discovers its feelings, and claims those, and discovers its thoughts and intellect, and claims those (all quite intently).

[...] Most of you identify with your daily physically oriented self. You would not think of identifying with one portion of your body and ignoring all other parts, and yet you are doing the same thing (smile) when you imagine that the egotistical self carries the burden of your identity.

Now because your conscious mind, as you think of it, is not aware of these activities, you do not identify with this inner portion of yourselves. You prefer to identify with the part of you who watches television or cooks or works — the part you think knows what it is doing. [...]

Since we are addressing individuals who do identify with the “normally conscious self,” I bring such matters up in this first chapter because I will be using the terms later in the book, and because I want to state the fact of multidimensional personality as soon as possible.

[...] You can identify, for example, with your outer ego alone, and cut yourself off from abilities that are a part of you. [...]

[...] Indeed, according to the original Christ thesis, while a man could sin, no man was identified as a sinner. He was not identified with his failures or limitations, but instead with his potential.

[...] You could admit failings, transgressions of one kind or another without identifying yourself, say, with failure. [...]

[...] It is almost automatic, for example, to label a man a murderer, and identify him with his crime. [...]

[...] You have stopped to a degree identifying yourselves with any limitations.

[...] Man loved nature, identified with its many parts, and added to his own sense of being by joining into its power and identifying with its force.

(Long pause at 10:26.) You are robbed, then, or you rob yourselves, of one of the most basic kinds of expression, since you can no longer identify yourselves with the forces of nature. [...] In your terms, over a period of time he pulled his awareness in, so to speak; he no longer identified as he did before, and began to view objects through the object of his own body. [...]

[...] He did not symbolically rage with the storms, for example, but quite consciously identified with them to such a degree that he and his tribesmen merged with the wind and lightning, and became a part of the storms’ forces. [...]

[...] Images in the mind, as they are understood, emerged in their present form only when man had, again, lost a portion of his love and identification, and forgotten how to identify with an image from its insides, and so began to view it from outside.

“Man thinks of acts, for example, and acting and doing, but he does not identify himself with those inner processes that make acting and doing possible. He identifies with what he thinks of as his logical thought, and the abilities of reasoning. [...] He does not identify, again, with the processes that make his logical thinking possible. [...]

[...] He identifies primarily with what I call a limited portion of his consciousness. [...] He identifies with events over which he is aware (underlined) of having some control.

[...] But he himself has largely closed the door of comprehension, so that he only identifies with what he thinks of as his rational mind, and tries to forget as best he can those spontaneous processes upon which the mind rides so triumphantly.

[...] The thoughts were mine, yet mine at a completely different level of thought that I don’t think I’ve ever identified (or identified with) before. [...]

When it enters at the point of birth, it is fairly independent, not yet identified with the form it has entered, and acting in a supportive role. If the personality entered at conception or sometime before birth, then it has to some extent identified with the body consciousness, with the fetus. [...]

(10:30.) On the other hand, if the personality finds that it has so over-identified with its present sex that its individuality is deeply threatened, then it may also bring to the fore the opposite picture, going so far as to identify again with a past personality of the opposite sex.

There are obviously those who identify with the body far more completely than others. [...]

[...] People, however, often identify with their seeming mistakes, forgetting (pause) their abilities in other directions, so that it seems that they are misfits in the universe, or in the world. [...]

The inner ego, however, always identifies with its source-identity as a beloved, individualized portion of the universe. [...]

The sexual schism begins when the male child is taught to identify exclusively with the father image, and the female child with the mother image — for here you have a guilt insidiously incorporated into the growth process.

Children of either sex identify quite naturally with both parents, and any enforced method of exclusively directing the child to such a single identification is limiting. [...]

[...] The child is also coerced into ignoring or denying those portions of the personality that correspond with the sex it is being taught it cannot identify with. [...]

[...] In so specifically identifying with your sex, therefore, you also inhibit memories that might limit or destroy that identification.

[...] You did indeed see your father (as my pendulum told me) not as a man who failed in several important areas, but as a failure in all areas: as a husband, breadwinner, father. (Pause.) You identified with him however out of fear of your mother’s emotionalism. You did not dare identify with her.

You identified with your father because he seemed free, in that she did not direct actively these strong affections toward him. [...]

[...] Now then: on the one hand you attempted to be virile by identifying with your father, yet he was also to you the symbol of a failure. [...]

[...] It will also be weakened with the emotional understanding that you are an individual, identified with no other.

To some extent Ruburt has identified with him. [...]

He also identified with his grandfather as a child, seeking protection from his mother in someone who seemed to love him more. [...]

[...] He identified with them perfectly however as himself, or versions. [...]

[...] The difference in hair coloring represented the fact that these are, so far, idealizations—yet he did identify with them. [...]

Ruburt identified with him being closed up and running scared. [...]

The cat was male, called originally Katherine however, and identified as female. [...]

Your brother (Loren) represents strong beliefs that you had and identified with, that could have been very limiting. [...]

[...] “I told myself before the session that you’re supposed to identify with your creative self, so I just said I’d go along with whatever happened in the session. [...]

Now, in the past when you said the word I, this I was the ego I, and you identified the whole self with the ego. [...]

[...] Now you address this I automatically and identify it in with your own mind as a sort of supraconsciousness. [...]

If possible he should make a strong effort to recall his previous sense of flexibility and not identify his personal image with the condition of his physical body during his difficulties.

The anima, therefore, is an important safeguard, preventing the male from over-identifying with whatever cultural male characteristics have been imposed upon him through present background, environment, and education. [...]

The same applies to a male when he over-identifies with what he believes to be male characteristics, for whatever reason. [...]

[...] They operate as compensations and reminders to prevent you from over-identifying yourself with your present physical body.

When man identified with nature, as given in Psyche, he did not imagine that the gods disapproved of him when storms lashed across the landscape. [...] Instead, identifying with nature, man identified also with all of its manifestations.

[...] He identified the short man who would be out as Jim Brady. John could not identify the S A R reference. [...]

(During break John identified Stan as his regional manager.)

[...] The nightly portions of your personalities have become strangers to you — for as you identify with what you think of as your rational intellect, then you identify it further with the daytime hours, with the objective world that becomes visible in the morning, with the clearcut physical objects that are then before your view.

(10:10.) In those times, however, man identified more with his intuitive self, and with his imagination, and these to some extent more than now, directed the uses to which he put his intellect.