“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

He saw it physically, yet could find no physical cause for it. [...] As soon as Ruburt saw it he leaped back. The last line in the poem he had completed just before dinner spoke of a light that would illuminate both worlds, one of the soul and one of the flesh. Consciously he thought the light must have been caused by lightning, even while he knew with another portion of himself that that was not the case.

He was filled with joy as he observed this reality. He knew that in the physical world the puddle was flat, but that he was perceiving another just-as-solid reality; a larger one, in fact, in which that rain creature had its being.

For a moment he saw double worlds with his physical vision. While the experience was exhilarating, it could have turned into a “nightmare” had his conscious mind not clearly understood; had he walked outside, for example, and found himself encountering living creatures rising out of each rainy puddle; and if for the life of him he could not have turned the creatures back. [...]

Ruburt has been working on a book of poems called The Dialogues, and in it recently he wrote of the double worlds. One night he stood at the kitchen window, and quite without drugs saw a rainy puddle below suddenly turn into an alive, beautifully fluid creature who stood up and walked while the rain slid off its liquid sides.

To a large extent, as he is now he has arisen out of you. Now he can indeed disappear back into you at this point, and with little care on your part. He would not disappear as an inner awareness. He would exist within your psyche as a small but definite organization of characteristics that would continue within themselves to retain a sense of identity. He would also for continue his protective devices for your own physical body. You would not overly miss him if he did this at this time.

[...] He will be drawing energy from this other personality. He will be able to do more. But he will still be your version. [...] He will still not be that personality. He will indeed be the psychological bridge, the psychological framework, structure and image through which that personality can communicate. [...]

Now, he would remain the individual that he is, as much as anyone ever remains the individual that he is. He would not turn into Adam. [...]

[...] For again, he is your version of this, and he is a way. He will lead you there, if that is where you want to go.

Rob laughed at this, and so did I when he read me the notes. [...] Seth’s personality impressed Rob to such an extent that he, at least, was convinced that Seth was a completely independent personality. He knows me so well, of course, in almost every mood, that he’s in an excellent position to judge the differences and similarities between my personality and Seth’s.

[...] Since I “become” Seth in some fashion, I’m never able to see myself as Seth in the way that Rob can, or that my students can in a class session, but I do know that he makes a definite impression on others. Who or what was he? [...] How did he know someone else was speaking? [...]

The results were so surprising that rather than paraphrase Rob’s notes, I’m going to include them exactly as he wrote them. For one thing, he was a more objective observer than I was. [...]

[...] I found Seth delightful, whoever or whatever he was. Who else did we know, so “old school” who’d even speak of tipping one’s hat, or refer to food as “good cuisine?” Anyway he certainly didn’t sound frightening, and the fifth-dimensional monologue was really provocative.

He is doing well physically. The relaxation episodes will continue again, when he realizes he does not have to be changing the world in each moment. [...] He does still need you to remind him of the safety of relaxation now and then.

[...] It also made him think, however, that he was not changing the world in any way that mattered in any important degree—that those in authority did not even read them, and that even my latest work (Mass Reality) would make no inroads. He did not want book dictation on the one hand, for that reason. On the other hand, of course, he did. [...]

[...] The taxi waited, since he could stay but a few minutes before taking a bus out of town. [...] [He knows Barb and Jack Ebright—now separated—of Colorado Springs, Colorado.])

I am not going to go into Ruburt’s [Johnny] Carson dream, since he interpreted it properly himself. [...] (Pause.) The connection he did not get had to do with the television commercials on the Carson show; the pressure applied by the medical profession, telling you not to trust the body, and the man, Doc [Severinsen], who is the master of ceremonies in a big show—signifying nothing as per your joint overall interpretation of the show in particular. [...]

[...] Let us say that he tells his friend he will not go. At the same time, if he imagines that he took another alternative and agreed on the engagement, then he might experience a sudden rift of dimensions. If he is lucky and the circumstances are good, he might suddenly feel the full validity of his acceptance as strongly as if he had chosen it physically. Before he realizes what is happening, he might actually feel himself leave his home and embark upon those probable actions that physically he has chosen not to perform.

When Ruburt learns a few lessons, he will be able to tell when his impressions are correct. Most of the wrong ones are not necessarily errors, but he has not made the proper connections, or gone far enough, but stopped short in processes of association. [...] He is in training, so to speak.

He has walked outside, and it is rainy and dark. He smokes outside as he walks. [...]

[...] He may be writing. He has been concerned with a schedule. [...]

[...] A cluster of events he considers too many. [...] He is very cautious this evening.

[...] They have always represented, again, portions of mankind’s own psychological reality that to some extent he had not assimilated—but in a schizophrenic kind of expression, projected instead outward from himself. Therefore, it does not seem he must be held accountable for acts that he considers debasing, or cruel. He isolates himself from that responsibility by imagining the existence of other forces—the devils or demons of the nether world.

[...] He feels he is being crucified by his own abilities. He may—or of course she may—on other occasions receive messages from the devil, or demons, which on their part represent the person’s feelings about the physical self that seems to be so evil and contradictory in contrast to the idealistic image. [...]

[...] It is as if (pause) man could not understand his own potentials unless he projected them outward into a godhead, where he could see them in a kind of isolated pure form, recognize them for what they are, and then accept them—the potentials—as a part of his own psychological reality (all very intently). As a species, however, you have not taken the last step. [...] I am not speaking of evil possibilities, but that man must realize that he is responsible for his acts, whether they are called good or evil.

10:26 P.M. I told Jane that the session is another excellent one, “I do believe he’s going to go on with that material,” she said. [...] I’m most interested that he do so.)

(John told us that although he had kept his eyes and ears open for news, he knew of nothing happening to any such neighbor, although as explained through John’s map in the 63rd session, two such women neighbors with children live three doors from him. John had been on vacation for two weeks in September however, and said he may have missed out on something developing. The “V” given by Seth has no particular meaning for him, he said.

[...] John has witnessed several sessions; with him he brought the first carbon of Volume 1 of the Seth material, which he has been reading. [...] John is also an indefatigable worker at finding people who are willing to devote free time to typing up extra copies of the material, and he had news for us on this score also. [...]

[...] Again, John said the initial V meant nothing in particular to him, but when he returned home he planned to do what he could to ascertain just what did take place three doors from his own place, to a woman with at least two children, or who is connected somehow with children. [...]

I will here begin to close the session, though like Philip's universe, the sessions never began at a specific point in time, and Ruburt knew of them long before he paced this floor, though he was not aware of them. [...]

In these periods he understands that he had his hand in the writing of the play, and he is freed from those assumptions that bind him while he is actively concerned with the drama’s activities. These periods, of course, coincide with your sleep states and dreaming conditions; but there are also other times when each actor sees quite clearly that he is surrounded by props, and when his vision suddenly pierces the seeming reality of the production.

[...] Long pause.) He has other sources of information, therefore, than those strictly given within the confines of the production. [...] In these he is informed through the inner senses of his other roles, and he realizes that he is far more than the self appearing in any given play.

[...] He is not left, therefore, abandoned within a play that he has forgotten in his own creation. He has knowledge and information that comes to him through what I call the inner senses.

[...] He was also beginning to deviate somewhat from the outline he’d given in the 510th session on January 10, 1970, but we had expected this. [...]

Give us a moment … In Ruburt’s dream, he is completely re-educating the part of himself that he once considered an authority. He convinced that portion that the old beliefs about good and evil, self-destruction, and the existence of the Catholic devil, were not valid. In the dream he triumphs over those beliefs.

[...] The “future” that he feared, he must understand, no longer exists — for it was composed of beliefs he no longer holds.

(The temperature was about 33 degrees as I left for 330. [...] He was talking and using an occasional cuss word in a rather humorous way. [...]

[...] He must understand them as such. [...]

[...] He is fully bald, and as I painted it I wondered why he was bald. [...] Seth then gave the artist’s name as Van Elver, saying he was from Norway or Denmark and that he was giving Seth painting data to be passed along to me.)

He courted or adopted his dead brother’s characteristics and gestures not because, as it was thought, he wanted to bank upon his prestige, but because he had an inner compulsion to do so, knowing the events that would occur.

If he can adapt in this life to another vital but different role, then he could live; but to some extent, basically, with a different alignment, in your terms only, taking on the problems of the next reincarnation without changing physical forms. [...] I do not believe he has the strength for it. [...]

[...] He will remain in a passive capacity relatively. [...] Kennedy [Ted] said he wouldn’t run for presidency. [...]

[...] It is natural that Ruburt was startled when he heard the way he sounds when he allows me to speak.

This will pass, but it is all to the good that he was able to hear the voice. [...]

[...] He will do so in time.

[...] She always knows what he is saying at the moment; the trick is to retain it after coming out of trance.

[...] He should work much more diligently with it, and also upon his book in which he attempts to explain inner sense phenomena. [...] This shrinking was initially necessary, because he needed to learn how to handle his rather explosive personality. But from now on he should begin to use, and insist upon using, his abilities; not only in his own work but in his dealings with the outside world as far as occupation is concerned.

[...] If he is not allowed to teach the children’s classes, or to expand his abilities at the gallery, then he should look for outside work where he can use these abilities; for such experience is necessary for him, and will be used in his own work.

[...] He is good at telling you to expand, and yet he is so frightened of a self no longer undisciplined that he shrinks from using his abilities at the gallery, and this is reinforced by your fear of his doing so, or indeed of showing your own abilities to others. [...]

[...] But he will find now, because of your help, discipline within freedom. He must allow himself however the freedom for his intuitions to show themselves.

[...] He kept careful note of his feeling and reactions during that time, and knew he could not get in that state of mind again: so he started in quotes “upward.” [...]

[...] He made an important statement this evening concerning habits. Some new habits have finally taken; consciously he has learned to leave himself alone enough so that the body can clear itself.

He will be able to send it to help others, and it will learn to do so with practice. [...] His late feelings of joy and release and the refreshment he is finding in nature, released him from private circles of nervousness, and opened channels through which positive energy did accumulate.

[...] The environment change has been of great benefit, but also because he was ready. [...]

Tell him to forget publishing for now, for he worries overmuch. His creative self knows he wants to publish another book, and will easily provide the means when it is given some freedom and not told what it must do. [...]

[...] His body is vastly releasing in the head and neck areas, and he is using the symbolism of the teeth to rid himself of several important problems.

[...] Physically he is indeed making strides, and Framework 2’s activity is helping, and will more. [...]

[...] “I’m so glad he’s back on the book again. [...]

[...] It is very important that he understand and trust such occurrences. He does feel isolated and frightened sometimes under those conditions. [...] He can help himself by remembering what I am saying, by exercising gently at such times, and by remembering the miraculous processes within the body that are indeed supporting him. [...]

[...] “He’ll just say the same things,” she said. [...]

[...] When he lies down, it is trying to straighten out. [...]

He is also onto some excellent ideas on his own. [...]

When Ruburt finished his project (God of Jane), he found himself with all of that time that was supposed to be used (underlined). He also became aware once again of his limitations, physically speaking: There was not much, it seemed, he could do but work, so he took the rational approach — and it says that to solve the problem you worry about it.

[...] He should also vary his nightwear more. Your suggestion that he walk one more time, when he mentioned a program, was excellent. It made him realize how limited his activity had become, and again following the prescribed rational prescription, he worried about it.

[...] In that regard, Ruburt’s response before such a session is natural, and to an extent magical, because he knows that no matter what he has been taught, he must to some degree (underlined) forget the questions and the mood that accompanies them with one level of his consciousness, in order to create the proper kind of atmosphere at another level of consciousness — an atmosphere that allows the answers to come even though they may be presented in a different way than that expected by the rational mind.

[...] What he needed to do was really relax, not prove that he could or should or must immediately begin another book. [...]

[...] He should dismiss the tests entirely from his mind. [...] But at this stage he simply should leave the grading and so forth to you. Of course he may make suggestions as he reads the sessions, but that is all.

For the investigator himself, through his actions, inadvertently brings about, in specific instances, those results for which he looks. [...] In hypnosis the subject is not as much on guard as a subject of an experiment when the subject knows in advance that he will be awakened by the experimenter, when electrodes are attached to the physical organism, when the conditions of the sleep laboratory are substituted for his ordinary nightly environment. [...]

I believe he has been irritated by a particular person, a male. [...] Does he perhaps live on Light Street? [...]

Now in regard to our own test this evening: Ruburt, at this stage, should not work on our own test results as he has been doing. He has been concentrating too much on grading our tests.

[...] He wasn’t their son, just an apprentice to the cobbler. He slept in the kitchen. [...] He was 11, I think. [...]

[...] He was 53 years old when he died. The boy Albert was too young to take his place when he died, so the village didn’t have a cobbler for a couple of years. [...]

[...] She was 41 and he was 46. [...] Albert-Ralph—liked to hunt because he was used to guns and knew about them. But he couldn’t get much because the ground was too rocky. [...]

[...] She had two brothers, one off someplace, he was a sailor. [...] Sarah’s father did something for the cobbler, so he made shoes for the young brother and she was in the shop to get the shoes.

[...] And he will not go beyond some point where you cannot follow. [...] Instead, if the abilities are used, and used widely, you will find you will come closer together and not further apart and without the security of knowing that you are there he would not use the ability. He would not use them for he needs to know that the physical universe, like the floor, is directly beneath his feet and that there is someone there who wants to make very sure that he will get back. [...] The personality that you are now encountering will also change for he is also beginning in his own line of endeavor. [...]

[...] At the present point he identifies with the name that he has given you. As you awaken, so will he awaken. [...]

[...] Now what you are hearing of the other personality is a dim image of what he is, for he cannot as yet relate to you what he is. [...]

(To Joel.) Now, our friend here has taken his first steps from the diving board and his brave friend here is afraid that he will drown. [...]