“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Jane has in her files a family record book going back to the mid 1800’s. Consulting this after the session we found that Seth was correct, that her grandfather had been 67 when he died March 12,1948. Jane was extremely attached to her grandfather; she grew up without a father since her parents separated when she was three years old, and her grandfather did his best to fill in the gap. Seth said the anniversary of his death has been on her mind. Seth dealt with the grandfather rather extensively in the 14th session. This material was the longest at the time, dealing with another personality in such a manner. See Volume 1.

(Within perhaps fifteen minutes after the Gallaghers left, Seth did come through. He proceeded to explain that Jane had indeed distorted her personal information. Subconsciously, Seth said, Jane was aware that the death of her grandfather, whom she had loved, was early next month, March. The grandfather had died of tuberculosis, hence Jane producing a distorted reference to a “breathing difficulty.” The grandfather had also died at the age of 67. Jane did not know this offhand consciously, Seth said, but had the records to prove it, and subconsciously was well aware of it.

(Throughout her formative years, however, Jane’s grandfather — her “Little Daddy,” as she called him — played an important part. [...]

(To initiate the material [in the 14th session] I asked Seth: “Jane has been very curious to learn something about her grandfather. [...]

[...] Jane sensed her grandfather’s feeling of identification with the rest of nature, however, and since as a young child she had not yet developed a strong ego personality, she felt no sense of rejection as did, for example, the other members of the family. [...]

[...] When he is away from you, however, in his particular case, any characteristics that are not yours that he sees in his grandfather somehow become threatening. [...] When the two of you are together, you and grandfather, there is no difficulty because the boy, in his own mind, interweaves these characteristics. [...]

[...] When he is with the grandfather, however, he relates to those characteristics that are like yours. [...] They confuse his sense of loyalty and he feels that he is supposed to relate to the grandfather as a male image when he is away from you. [...]

([Joel:] “Since Peter came home from visiting his grandfather, he has been stuttering. [...]

The dream representing his grandfather symbolically allowed him to go back to the past in this life, to a time of severe shock—his grandfather’s death—which occurred when he was beginning to substitute scientific belief for religious belief, wondering if his grandfather’s consciousness then fell back into a mindless state of being, into chaos, as science would certainly seem to suggest. [...]

In the dream his grandfather revives. His grandfather survived in a suit too large, which means that there was still room for him to grow (as I’d suggested to Jane ). [...]

(See the attached copies of Jane’s reincarnation and grandfather dreams of March 6, and her nightmarish experience of March 8. All of these are very important, I think, with the experience of March 8 taking precedence, I’d say. [...]

[...] At his grandfather’s death he felt betrayed, then, because he had felt his grandfather invulnerable. [...]

The ape on one level represented the animal instincts feared by Ruburt’s mother and grandfather as well, so Ruburt learned to look upon them askance. [...]

Ruburt’s grandfather gambled compulsively in an attempt to hide his sexual wants, and deny them. [...]

For various reasons, the men in his family, his grandfather on his father’s side, whom he did not know, his maternal grandfather and his father, were highly independent, insisting upon working for themselves. Ruburt picked up this Indian trait from the maternal grandfather.

You understand that because of both his father and his grandfather, particularly his grandfather, he grew up believing it a weakness to work for others, because of the immobility involved. His grandfather as a salesman walked about freely, and his grandfather feared working for others. [...]

He was a probable self of your grandfather’s and he kept in touch with you, and you were able to see him because of your own abilities. [...] He was a portion of your grandfather that your grandfather as you know him, could not be, and in many ways he was much freer than your grandfather. [...]

[...] He was subconsciously but never consciously aware that next month marked the time of his grandfather’s death, and subconsciously he knew his grandfather’s age at death.

[...] We had his identification with his grandfather momentarily, and the subsequent distortion.

(Jane’s grandfather died at the age of 67. [...]

(I hadn’t realized that her grandfather, Joseph Burdo — “Little Daddy,” as Jane had called him — had spent a couple of years in a hospital for TB when Jane had been around ten years old. I also understood as we talked that when Jane’s grandfather had wanted to move out of the house on Middle Avenue, he had sold all the furniture and had the utilities turned off. [...]

The weight is also related to his grandfather, and an identification with the grandfather, who was very thin, and who left Ruburt’s mother, living alone. [...]

The grandfather would not even discuss his own wife with Ruburt, or any personal matters. [...]

(Then we talked about her grandparents in connection with Jane and Marie; her grandmother’s death; the lawsuit against the town, which I don’t think I’d heard about before; welfare; Jane’s grandfather, Joseph Burdo, and her feelings for him, and so forth. [...] She talked about her grandfather’s death at the age of 68, when she was 20 years old. [...]

Incidentally, the grandfather of your friend was legitimately connected with your light-hearted experiment the other evening.

[...] Later in the evening we obtained legitimate results with the table; during one of these experiments the table told us that the communicator was Don Wilbur’s grandfather.)

[...] He was called Marcus Porcius the Younger; his great grandfather, Marcus Porcius the Elder, was a Roman statesman who lived from 234—149 BC.

[...] All of this describes a photograph of Shirley’s grandfather not uncle; a photo she had not seen until approximately four days before this session.)

[...] All of this describes a photograph of Sally’s grandfather—not uncle; a photo she has not seen until approximately four days before this session.)

[...] I did meet with Ruburt’s grandfather, who said that his favorite granddaughter last time was a good kiddo.

(“You’re a good kiddo,” was the ultimate compliment that Jane’s very reticent grandfather could pay her. [...]

[...] His grandfather strongly influenced him, and to the grandfather only a man who worked for himself was independent. [...]

[...] I do not know if this is our young friend’s grandfather, or the grandfather’s father, you see.

([Sue:] “Is it in the same system that involves my grandfather?”)

[...] There is an association in your mind, however, between the character of Camp and your grandfather, but it is an association from this life that seems to connect them. [...]