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(The particular dream Seth refers to on page 270 concerned one I had on the night of Sunday, February 21. [...] The apparition I saw in the dream was not of Jane, but still the dream was very vivid, and somewhat upsetting. I believe it has elements of clairvoyance, and that possibly I disguised the identity of the apparition I saw in the dream.)

[...] Consciously recalling the dreams is excellent, since the subconscious data is at least to some extent consciously assimilated, and in the dreams aggressive tendencies are indeed released and worked out in an actual manner, as satisfying to the subconscious as if they were worked out within the physical field. And to some extent through muscular action, even in dreams such aggressions find physical outlet also, and save you quite a few aches and pains, by the way.

Again, you Joseph feared aggression in the past so strongly that you would not allow yourself to even recall such dreams a year ago. Ruburt has no such knowledge of aggressive dreams, a very few, and this is also significant. [...]

I will not go into particular dreams now. The dream to which you refer was not a warning concerning either of you, however.

It is basically as meaningless in essence, to ask this kind of question as it would be to pause in the middle of a dream, and wonder when first the dream location was created: To stand facing a dream landscape and wonder at what point in time the rocks had their origin. For there is a great similarity between the so-called world of dreams and the so-called world of matter, as you should know.

The material of the physical universe is created spontaneously and constantly, even as the dream locations in the dream world are so created; and as it is impossible in terms of time as you know it to set a point of beginning in the dream world, so it is impossible to attempt to do the same as far as the physical universe is concerned.

(Reading some of the recent sessions on dreams earlier today, Jane got the idea that Seth would talk about dreams this evening.

(While taking a nap late this afternoon, Jane had the dream detailed page 139.

(This would be the second of seven revelatory dreams Jane is to have, according to Seth in the 492nd session. See the 499th session for material dealing with the first such dream. I am also to have a series of seven such dreams.)

[...] I explained my dream to Jane so she would have a basis for discussion, since we planned now to ask Seth to explain his above data in relation to the dream. [...] I didn’t recall my brother Dick in the dream. [...]

[...] Jane went over her dream for me during break. It was a long dream. [...]

The dream was significant because for the first time he was actively seeking me as a guide, and met with those who were leaving physical reality in a group. In the next such dream he will find me of course, or I will find him.

This morning I tried to rough-in a small oil painting of myself standing before one of those walls of crystal color I’d seen in the dream. [...] I’d anticipated the failure to some extent: With mere oil paint I just couldn’t match the iridescence of that dream wall of light and color. [...]

[...] In some out-of-body experiences Ruburt, for example, saw colors more dazzling than any physical ones, and you saw the same kind of colors in your dream. They are a part of your inner senses’ larger spectrum of perception, and in the dream state you were not relying upon your physical senses at all.

A note: I can add that I didn’t give up on my dream painting after all. [...] The practice on the dream painting helped: This time I was able to hint more easily at the great combined radiance of those lights. [...]

1. I’ll report only the portions of the dream that relate to my perceptions of light and color, but will describe in full my waking experience of the next evening. Both accounts are revised from my dream notebook:

[...] Now, I tell you to remember your dreams and in your context, I tell you again, not only to remember your dreams, but to learn to come awake in the middle of your dream and realize that you can manipulate within it, and that you form it, and that it is yours not something thrust upon you in which you are powerless. [...]

Now, through all of this you must realize that you are not powerless and physical reality is a dream. [...] You can come to yourselves, therefore, through psy-time and remember also, that this dream is a dimension of experience and reality even if it is, in contrast, a dream in a higher level of reality in which you have your larger consciousness. [...]

[...] Some, however, are entirely legitimate but oftentimes, the suggestion involved in a dream then brings about the event, and so it seems when the dream becomes real, that you have looked into a future that already existed. [...]

[...] Whether or not you remember your dreams, for example, a certain portion of you, under hypnosis, could remember every dream that you ever had in your life and so a certain portion of you remembers those nonmoments when you are not focused in physical reality, when your existence is in another dimension of actuality entirely and you were perceiving what I call, in your terms of reference, pardon me, nonintervals. [...]

Individual life, or the life of the present individual, could be legitimately compared to the dream of an entity. [...] The entity is concerned with these years in the same manner that you are concerned with your dreams. As you give inner purpose and organization to your dreams, and as you obtain insight and satisfaction from your dreams though they involve only a part of your life, so the entity to some extent directs and gives purpose and organization to his personalities during their existence. [...]

[...] Your own dreams are fragments, even as in a much larger sense you are fragments of your entity. An unrecognized unity and organization lies within all of your dreams, beneath their diversity. And your dreams, while part of you, actually exist apart. [...]

(This was to the effect that Jane’s dream, back in July of 1963, had been correct, but that Jane had been too eager to put a less serious implication upon it. [...] dream was that, rather than go through the operations on her eyes, Miss Callahan had decided subconsciously to die; and that she had reached this decision at the same time that Jane dreamed it.

However, as I have said there is great similarity between your relationship to your dreams, and to the entity’s relationship to his personality. What I did not make plain was that your dreams are part of a plane, and exist on it as you exist on your plane.

[...] I described to Jane my dream of last night, and asked that Seth comment next time. [...] In my dream I looked out and down at the car, and saw three pieces of paper lying on the asphalt next to the left front wheel of the car. [...] In the dream this knowledge at once brought me some peace of mind, and I fell into a deep sleep. [...]

[...] The dream, I knew, resolved my concerns. [...] As soon as I had the dream, I told Jane, I took it for granted that things would be okay. [...]

(I should add that my dream of seeing the money so far away—out by the car—also meant things. [...]

Your dream represents the fact that you know the insurance affair will be settled properly. [...]

[...] Now you should have a series of dreams representing other aspects of the entire situation. You will have a dream, for example, that emphasizes what you will find if you leave this institutionalized framework. [...]

Our friend’s dream, in her own way, closely approximates our African God’s dream over here, for you are considering the same questions. [...]

(Arnold related his dream.)

(To Arnold.) The dream was an exquisite creative production, you see, and in a way a commentary from other layers of yourself, not only on the present state of civilization as you see it, but a commentary upon civilizations in the past so that both past and present images were transposed, one upon the other. [...]

In the dream state, languages and images are wedded in a way that seems alien only because you have forgotten their great alliance. [...] So when you dream, images and language merge often, so that each becomes an expression of the other and each fulfills the other. [...]

YOUR DREAMING PSYCHE IS AWAKE

[...] But she went on: “Now let me get a couple of paragraphs on the chapter… The heading is: ‘Your Dreaming Psyche Is Awake.’” Then Seth came through at once:)

[...] In dreams, however, you use the true ancient language of your being.

(Shortly after I had the dream, Jane gave me her own interpretation of what the dream meant. [...] Since Seth’s own interpretation agrees with Jane’s— though more detailed—it isn’t necessary to give Jane’s version here, beyond saying the dream concerned my own artwork and related affairs.)

[...] (Pause.) This was part of the association leading to the dream. [...] (Pause.) There were no health connotations to the dream, it did not have that kind of meaning. You recognized your fear when you saw it in the dream as objectified on your thumb, and then you allowed it to disappear.

(Here is my dream of October 9, that I asked Seth interpret: “Color. I dreamed that I had a cancerous wart or nodule right at the tip of my right thumb, where it bothered me to hold a brush or pencil. [...]

(Before the session tonight I said I was curious about Seth’s interpretation of my dream of October 9. This will be given in the appropriate place in the text. [...]

(Pause.) Your dog dream (of March 31, 1979) also somewhat symbolizes that dilemma: do you go with your head, forcing a conscious decision, or do you go with your instincts, symbolized by the dog’s form? The question itself causes the dilemma of the dream—that is, the separation of the two in your mind, instinct and reason, causes the uneasy confrontation. [...]

In the second dream (on April 4, 1979), Bill Macdonnel, whom you do not consider an excellent artist, reflects your own sometimes confused feelings about what might have happened had you devoted your work primarily and exclusively to art, or played the artist, as Bill does. [...] In the dream you realize that your way is better.

The dreams are as Ruburt interpreted them, dealing with your feelings about prominence.

[...] In the first (on April 3, 1979), you are with an exotic move star, who would not ordinarily appear in a grocery store or a supermarket (actually a five-and-dime in the dream). [...]

He says, ‘I breathe, but who breathes, since consciously I cannot tell myself to breathe or not to breathe?’ He says, ‘I dream. But who dreams? I cannot tell myself to dream or not to dream.’ He cuts himself in half and then wonders why he is not whole. [...]

If man does not know who breathes within him, and if man does not know who dreams within him, it is not because there is one self who acts in the physical universe and another who dreams and breathes. It is because he has buried the part of himself which breathes and dreams. [...]

Time to your dreaming self is much like ‘time’ to your waking inner self. The time concept in dreams may seem far different than your conception of time in the waking state when you have your eyes on the clock and are concerned with getting to some destination by, say, 12:15. [...] Then, I am sure, you will see the similarity between this alone sort of inner psychological time, experienced often in waking hours, and the sense of time experienced often in a dream. [...]

The part of you who dreams is the ‘I’ as much as the part of you who operates in any other manner. The part of you who dreams is the part of you who breathes. [...]

[...] As if in divine astonishment and surprise, All That Is began to listen, and began to respond to these “generations” of thoughts and dreams, for the thoughts and dreams related to each other also. [...] In the meantime, then, in your terms, All That Is spontaneously thought new thoughts and dreamed new dreams, and became involved in new imaginings—and all of these also related to those now-infinite generations of interweaving and interrelating thoughts and dreams that “already” existed (with many gestures and much emphasis).

(Pause at 9:57.) When that answer came, it involved previously unimaginable leaps of divine inspiration, and it occurred thusly: All That Is searched through the truly infinite assortment of its incredible progeny to see what conditions were needed for this even more magnificent dream, this dream of a freedom of objectivity. [...]

But in your terms this was still largely a dream world, though it was fully fashioned. [...] In your terms, it is as if the earth and all of its creatures were partially dreaming, and not as focused within physical reality as they are now.

In “Unknown” Reality, then, Seth’s material on the sleepwalkers heralded one of the main themes of Dreams, which he began five years later. Dreams was unsuspected by us then, of course; so what books to come will have their genesis in this one?

[...] Dreams are as much action as the movement of a muscle, and the movement of a muscle is indeed as sleeplike as any dream.

[...] The dream world of which we have spoken so often is also action, and as such it affects all other action. It is not apart from your so-called physical universe, for the dream universe, through its connection with the inner self, also helps to construct physical matter—and this is no trifling matter.

[...] As you know, among other things dreams reflect inner expectation. For our visitor’s edification, dreams are created by each individual, and given actual molecular structure and reality, within a different field than the one with which you are usually familiar.

[...] The individual, any individual, may construct many possibilities in the dream world. Having problems in the physical world, he may attempt to solve them through working them out on a dream basis, trying various solutions.

[...] With this in mind, consider once more the various aspects of the self in the waking and the dream states. The conscious “I” is unaware of the “I” who dreams. Indeed, the dreaming “I” seems more familiar with the waking self upon many occasions. [...]

Therefore, in the dream state communication is possible between all portions of the self. The personality appears in its truest state if it seems, in dreams, that you are free of space and time. [...] If you appear to hear voices out of the past, if you seem to see into the future, it is because the dream state is a more or less faithful approximation of a basic reality in which your time and space simply do not exist.

In such a case it is not necessary that the conscious self recall the dreams which it requests. In many cases, in fact, it is to the ego’s advantage that it remain unaware of the actual dreams involved; for the ego is indeed touchy, rigid and querulous as an old arthritic gentleman, and cranky.

I will give you directions which will allow you to study the appearance of space and time within your dreams. You will be one self dreaming, while another spying self takes notes. [...]

(The dream book, which is now at Ace for consideration, was involved. [...] The gist of these seemed to be that the dream book, its struggles in creation, etc., was involved, and that it was to be accepted, finally, by Ace. [...]

(Jane has a long list of dreams, psy-time experiences, messages from Seth and herself, to the effect that the dream book will be published.)

(The next day, January 28, after some debate, Jane called Ace in an effort to learn the status of the dream book. [...] If Jane’s experience this morning does include the sale of the dream book, the event can be called precognitive to some degree.

[...] Did the experience lead to the phone call, and will informing Ace of the sale of the Seth material result in the sale of the dream book? On the other hand, can the sale to P-H have an adverse effect upon the hoped-for sale of the dream book to Ace?)

[...] (Pause.) Your present technological advances can almost be dated from the [invention of] the printing press, to Edison’s inventions, which were flashes of intuition, dream-inspired. But if what I am telling you is true, then it is obvious that when I say that your physical world originated in the world of dreams, I must mean something far different from the usual definition of dream reality. Again, I could choose another term, but I want to emphasize each person’s intimate contact with that other reality that does occur in what you think of as the state of dreaming (all very intently).

All of your manufactured objects also originated in the realm of dreams, first obviously being conceived of mentally, and in the same way man produced his first tools. [...] Hints of those abilities are always present in the dream state, and in the arts, in the religions, and even in the sciences. [...]

(10:12.) Man’s dreams have always provided him with a sense of impetus, purpose, meaning, and given him the raw material from which to form his civilizations. The true history of the world is the history of man’s dreams, for they have been responsible in one way or another for all historic developments.

First, again, you have various stages of, say, pseudomatter, of dream images, that only gradually—in those terms—coalesce and become physically viable, for there are endless varieties of “matter” between the matter that you recognize and the antimatter of physicists’ theories.

[...] This in turn had reminded me of my dream of months ago, when from the elevator tower of the hospital I’d looked out a window to see checks from the insurance company lying on the asphalt at the side of the left front wheel of the car. I’d interpreted that dream to mean that a meaningful settlement was still far away from us, but there nevertheless. I do not recall the date of the dream without checking.

(I told Jane that last night I’d had another long, torturous dream in which I’d been pursued through rooms by unknown men who were after me for some unexplained reason. I always got away and hid, in room after room, but the dream was an upsetting one, like that I’d had a week or so ago, when I’d lost my way amid a series of deserted factory buildings on the edge of Elmira. [...]

(I understood the import of last night’s dream much better than its predecessor, however, having learned what that first dream meant — my own fears on a number of counts.

[...] I think the good news may not have penetrated my psyche yet, not even as I type these lines at 9:00 p.m. After talking to our lawyer this morning I went back to work on Dreams just as though nothing had happened. [...]

Now there are several kinds of time, that will appear within your dreams, and you must sort these out carefully. While sleeping in your present time, you may have a dream that concerns your personal past, while the dream is concerned with events that you know to have occurred many years ago. [...]

It should be obvious to you also that within your dreams a spatial location that belongs in present physical time can be experienced in the past or in the future within the dream framework, and there is much more here than meets the eye; and you must be careful so that you catch it. [...]

[...] For the dream will not be captured in a laboratory by scientists who will not look into their own dreams.

[...] There are however some points that I would like to clear, and I would also like to add to your instructions concerning our dream experiments—since I know, Joseph, that you can’t wait to begin them.

(An extra carbon of this session is being made for Jane to attach to her dream notebook. Practically all of the session deals with material stemming from her dream adventures of September 25 and 27. See her dream notebook for details. The September 25 dream concerns reincarnation and her decision to spend each reincarnation in one “room,” say. Then on the afternoon of the 25th she had a nap-dream adventure featuring a family reunion, my father, and others. [...]

[...] Ruburt’s dream about the reincarnational room told him that he had decided to concentrate in each life rather exclusively upon certain issues. [...]

The next, psychic family dream represented an actual reunion of some Sumari family members, so that Ruburt would not feel so alone, but realize he did indeed have rich emotional connections with others, at other levels, and that he was part of a family of creative initiators, full of energy and vigor, who could go out into the world or cheerfully forget it if they chose.

The dream meant, also, that he was not alone in a different fashion, for the self that he knows is supported by strong and vigorous other portions of the psyche, and other aspects all ready to help him—inner friends he can count upon.