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[...] He determined to discipline himself much more carefully from then on, but from this point he threw himself wholeheartedly, for two lives, into lives of great restraint and overcontrol.

Fear of course was the motive behind this iron discipline. [...]

It chose an environment where hardship would automatically teach a certain discipline, and yet one in which the psychic nature of the circumstances would also permit intuitive creative growth. [...]

[...] It has at one time or another in various lives been on the side of the strongly disciplined portions, in which case it was greatly given to dogma, and concerned with cultural problems of punishment and law; or followed the intuitive side, in which it emerged as mediumship, and high mysticism.

Everything that is, is a materialization of aware, individualized, inquiring consciousness; and to love this is a personal, almost all-encompassing discipline and devotion. I say discipline because whenever, individualized inquiring consciousness expresses itself in form, it not only expresses its spontaneity; and this is not contradictory: But even while expressing its spontaneity, it disciplines it.

Form always implies a discipline. [...]

There must always be a balance maintained between spontaneity and discipline.

A combination of intuition and discipline can be used with most valid and definite results, as a tool for investigating those parts of the self which are so interwoven that they cannot be separated from the self.

[...] You were the discipline element, the reasoning part. [...] For of course your personality has some strongly spontaneous and intuitive elements, as you now know, and Ruburt also has very definite, now too definite, tendencies toward discipline.

[...] You were encouraging him to even further spontaneity on the one hand, to intuitional freedom, and yet to his point of view requiring him to exert all kinds of discipline, which he felt was your role—to follow the intuitions so far, know when to stop at the proper target, and it was here that he first deeply felt you as a taskmaster.

[...] It was precisely, you see, the relationship between spontaneity and discipline operating between yourselves, that was projected upon the sessions, and inhibited any spontaneous comments I could make.

One more sentence: this arrangement automatically sets up artificial barriers between spontaneity and discipline, and colorations that were sexual in nature, leading to deductions such as: spontaneity was dangerous, obviously, since it needed such controls. [...]

The inner discipline, the inner utilization of energy, the inner channeling and direction of energy on Ruburt’s part in these sessions, would have been impossible but a few years ago.

[...] Ruburt at this time would not dispense with the sessions, although it is true that he sometimes consciously resents the discipline involved in their regularity.

[...] It is however with him, as with you, the peculiar mixture of discipline and regularity with spontaneity that makes the sessions possible; and this quality in Ruburt, even of rebellion, that allows the sessions to continue.

[...] Overall our schedule will be maintained, but we do not want rigidity, merely the spontaneity that comes, and the freedom that is achieved within discipline.

[...] His tendency, both for undisciplined reactions and for habitual discipline, seem contradictory, but represent merely counterbalances in his nature. He could, conceivably, act with no discipline, but he could also conceivably deny himself any freedom at all, and hide within schedule and habit.

Discipline is necessary for him, but fear could lay the discipline on with too strong a hand.

[...] Unless he studies himself most thoroughly, he must take great pains to see that the commitment is followed up by self-discipline. You should see to it that your self-discipline follows the dictates of intuition. If you will excuse the comment, Ruburt is either all self-discipline or all intuition.

[...] And you, dear friend, could do with giving your intuitions greater freedom, for you are already adequately blessed with self- discipline.

[...] Indeed, there is here, between intuition and discipline. [...]

[...] He was a mystic, but a mystic given to great discipline, denial, restraint. [...]

He saw in his time how so-called mysticism and even dedication, without discipline, could divert energy, distort truths and pervert causes. [...]

[...] Through discipline he thought that he had this suspicious creativity well in hand. [...]

The Nebene within you however was quite certain that they must also be disciplined, kept within bounds and watched carefully. [...]

[...] Daily use of those particular back exercises, with their mental discipline, will further aid in his development, until he will find indeed that he can not only relax at will, but even when he does not have time to will relaxation, that is, relaxation will be the built-in conditioned reflex that panic used to be.

[...] If he had set out, and he didn’t, to plan a process that would enable him to use his abilities to the fullest in his writing and other fields in which he is interested, and yet to discipline himself so that he did not scatter his abilities, if he had set out on a plan toward maturity, and to set definite controls upon his sometimes too fast, out-of-proportion responses, he could not have found a better path than the one which he is now following.

The use of full intuition with discipline and control, and a daily schedule that includes contemplation and a temporary relaxation and slowing down of bodily process, [means] he will live longer because of this, and his work will be deeper and of greater import.

[...] And as you learn relaxation and mental discipline you will find more energy available for your work, for the sessions, and for the enjoyment of life in general.

His discipline is improving and has improved this life, especially since the ending of the adolescent period. [...]

[...] A gobbler of ideas, of emotions, of atmosphere, in some ways a veritable sponge soaking up whatever he can, but he has learned discipline and he is learning a certain amount of patience, which is difficult for him.

[...] The panicky feeling is already lessening and Ruburt’s discipline is catching up with and conquering his emotional attitudes so that the problem will be worked out, that is he will stop smoking.

His circumstances of birth made it difficult for him to overindulge in the rich things of life, although his present mother used rich foods as compensation for other things, and this example opened Ruburt’s eyes and actually started him on the road to self-discipline.

Great talent requires great spontaneity, not great discipline. [...]

[...] Extraordinary talent takes extraordinary discipline, and the symptoms can be used against any distraction.

[...] We haven’t even got discipline to get up at a decent hour much less work as we should.

(All of this has to be turned to finding different methods quickly and an examination of the original theses, and the need for discipline to begin with. [...]

[...] And in order to use the ability it must be disciplined; it could hardly be allowed to run wild. [...] On the other hand the strength of the ability also determines the amount of discipline to be used; it has to. [...] I’d even go so far as to say that an overly disciplined attitude would lead to a fairly decent and balanced frame of mind. [...]

[...] The question arises: Would such experiences bring their own discipline and protection? [...]

(Long pause.) Discipline is a form of applied suffering, as discipline is usually used. [...]

If you deny yourself the direct experience of your own emotions, but muffle them, say, through too-strict discipline, then you can hurt others much more easily, for you project your deadened emotional state upon them—as in the Nazi war camps [men] followed orders, torturing other people—and you do that first of all by deadening your own sensitivity to pain, and by repressing your emotions.

Your discipline in working habits and in living habits is admirable. [...] There is a tendency in your present personality for forging discipline into a bond that could tie down your strong creative tendencies. [...]

[...] This dissociation of which Ruburt has spoken to you is an excellent discipline that will insure your use of energy in the best possible manner. [...]

[...] From you Ruburt has received and is receiving necessary aids in self-discipline and control, which are necessary to channel the strong intuitional abilities.

[...] Ordinarily the last life before this would have adequately compensated for the Denmark experience, but the mother situation in this life reawakened the fear of giving in to impulse, and tended to overstrengthen the desire for discipline, which was based on fear.

[...] It fears loss of control and of discipline. But all appearances to the contrary, the emotions are natural controlling devices that in themselves aid discipline, since they allow for the spontaneous flow of energies outward. [...]

This obviously implies powers of discipline and discretion. [...]

[...] The ego will gain and not lose in the process, but we will not have an autocratic and willful ego, but a reasonable and even disciplined ego that is aware of its position, aware of its own dependency, as well as of its own peculiar and unique perceptive apartness. [...]

Our sessions in general, the matter of spontaneity and discipline, your own fears, rather natural enough, concerning any subconscious effect I might have on Ruburt.

First of all, all this is connected with the question of discipline and spontaneity of sessions, for I could have spoken at any time.

[...] It needed discipline, and you helped here to a truly astounding degree.

[...] For after a certain point of discipline is reached, he will operate well and effectively. [...]

[...] It is a disciplined language in that spontaneity has a far greater order than any you recognize.

[...] In a very limited fashion alphabets do the same thing, for once you have accepted certain basic verbal symbols they impose their discipline even upon your thoughts, obviously since you think in words so often.

Their discipline and rigidity is considerable. [...]

[...] Had the human species gone into certain mental disciplines as thoroughly as it has explored technological disciplines, its practical transportation system would be vastly different, and yet by this time even more practical than it is now. [...]

[...] And again, maintaining your discipline, nevertheless allow yourself freedom, for within you will find spontaneity, added dimensions and even new discipline.

Within the framework of your disciplined nature, you must allow now for more spontaneity. [...]

[...] You need the inner data and the journeys inward, but these must always be of a disciplined nature, and not overdone.

[...] A smooth and disciplined schedule will serve you well here. [...]

The half-hour schedule will allow for a disciplined, smooth and automatic self-discovery which will not drain your energies. [...]

[...] In not wanting children, a good amount of discipline was used by both of you—the kind of discipline that simply would not be possible for people “driven” by impulsive desires. [...]

Now, what would that extreme behavior consist of “at its worst?” He felt that if he were a person given to extremes, then to use his abilities he must apply due discipline so that his head was not turned, so that he did not become a victim of fame, as many other writers and artists did—or so it seemed. [...]