“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

[...] Words are but symbols, but without symbols you cannot intellectually understand what I have to say to you, and so I must use them. [...]

[...] Now, I am aware that I shall have some small difficulties with my friend but he, Ruburt, understands. When circumstances are at their best then he allows me to come through clearly, but he is concerned over issues that are only of surface importance as far as the volume of the voice is concerned, and he is only now learning control. [...]

Now, your toy does not do you justice but we shall put up with it. [...]

[...] I will try to give you information that I know you want to have, but at times I will also give you information that you may not wish to have. [...]

[...] When a so-called distraction at one time is welcomed at another time, then obviously it is no distraction, but expresses a need. [...] You went with your feelings about Maria (Clodes), but this caused you difficulty instead of enjoyment because of the bank. [...]

[...] But it also means no artificial rules. [...] The chores will get done, but they will no longer be chores. [...]

[...] On the other hand, you often work when you do not feel like it, but need other refreshment, simply because of course you have already tired yourself through the ensuing dilemmas.

[...] Obviously you may not each feel the same way at the same time, but if you clearly communicate your feelings to each other, that is no problem. [...]

We do not have too many comments but one I am bound to make. [...] There is an interpretation to the meaning of the fall, in Biblical terms, and on another occasion I will tell you what it is but do not expect the philosophy that tells you automatically that by becoming human you have degraded yourselves. [...]

[...] The excerpts from the book that Ruburt read from in class earlier this evening were highly distorted but they were less damaging, the excerpts read in particular, than the excerpts you just described. [...]

[...] I suppose we are all pretty equal but each of us is a portion of a larger identity which may not be equal to others.”)

([Arnold:] “But we do advance don’t we?”)

[...] It has meaning, coherence and order not only because of those realities that are obvious to you, and that appear, but also because of those inner realities that are “unspoken,” or hidden. I am not speaking merely of hidden variables, in scientific terms, nor am I saying that the universe is an illusion, but a psychological reality in which “objectivity” is the result of psychological creativity.

[...] Prentice-Hall authorized this venture by a foreign publisher well over a year ago, but we didn’t know just when we’d see books within the two-year limit set for publication. [...]

(In addition, we expect that later this year the Dutch translation of Seth Speaks will be published — but again, we don’t know just when this will happen. [...]

[...] In general, then, tonight Seth discusses questions many correspondents have asked; but specifically, his material is a continuation of an answer to some of the professor’s questions. [...]

I am not saying that man is being manipulated, but that in a larger framework, even his seemingly evil acts have constructive meaning. A man who kills with hatred will have his hatred to contend with, but he is not able to kill anyone who has not decided to die—and to die in a particular manner; that is, someone who wants his death blamed on another, who would not commit suicide, who would not choose a long illness—someone who is ready to die but does not want to deal with the circumstances, and wants indeed to be surprised by death.

[...] Jane had but a few more chapters to go for Seven.

[...] Each individual is a portion of the universe, of course, apropos of the book on the Fabric of the Universe, but the universe is everywhere composed of awareized energy—energy “stamped” with its own unique psychic or psychological “individuality.”

[...] In the most basic terms, there are different kinds of realities, but one is not more real or less real than the others.

Jane then hands me a manuscript, a novel based on the August 11th dream encounter we had, from her perspective, but it includes this present dream experience also, the Seth breakthrough and someone named Michael J. Anthony. It seems to read well as I look it over, but I realize that the time sequence is confused here, in reference to me anyhow, and the story is mixing me up. [...] It’s good, but I’ve got to go now,’ I say quickly. [...]

[...] They come into reality with problems, but all of you come into reality with challenges that you have set ‘ahead of time.’ You have given them the gift of existence. [...] You have also given them individuality, which means that they are not yourselves, but variations on yourselves.

The probable self can be reached through hypnosis but only with excellent subjects and operators. [...] It has been glimpsed but not recognized as a separate part of the self — in dream recordings and analytic sessions.

[...] She looks surprised at our costumes, but I see a paper and pen on the kitchen counter and write a brief explanation. [...] Her voice is clear but very high-pitched.

The past not only still exists, vital and alive, but it constantly gives forth multitudinous futures, as does your present. Yet each self is couched in an infinite cocoon of being from which it cannot fall, but ever emerge in changing form. [...]

Now: when you are painting a picture and you have a good start, you do not think to yourself “I have a good start, but I will most likely ruin what I have begun.” When Ruburt is writing, and has a good page, he does not think “This is fine and good, but the next page will likely be lousy, and I will never have a book.”

[...] You do not say “But will that be followed up tomorrow by work as good or better?” You do not say “That is fine, but most likely tomorrow you will ruin what you did today.” [...]

[...] He can keep his spirits up considerably by remembering to devote three hours to writing—James or otherwise, but he should not lapse into worrying about his condition. [...] Some days he will know that his body wants to relax, but even then the walking should be attempted, for the improvements will have an opportunity to work along with the body mechanism in operation.

[...] Now, this is mainly, but only mainly, on Ruburt’s part; but it is in deep response to your early attitudes, and some of those still continue: to you it seems obvious where Ruburt “errs,” yet some of your own strategy very neatly escapes you, so that the rationalization so clear to you on Ruburt’s part, is invisible in your own case.

Some of Ruburt’s students would receive great feelings of creative endeavor if you allowed them the simple pleasure of making out envelopes for your (new) letter (to correspondents), but you are afraid of sharing that work, menial as it is. [...] You have put impediments in your way, but you are producing regardless. [...]

[...] We had talked about this at times, of course, but now I thought I saw a new angle to things, and felt hope; where before I had thought there were no new angles....)

[...] But in his own way, and no matter how misguided, he was trying to pace himself and his temperament with yours, to play up those mental writing abilities that would help his career, and in which you took such pride—and while doing that, play down qualities that might distract you from your own work, by encouraging physical activities—parties, vacations, travelings, that would further take up your time, when you were already taking time away from your art to help him in psychic work.

[...] Jane and I had heard of this association in a remote way, but it had no meaning for us until we committed ourselves to the hill house; the agency concerned is but one of many we’d contacted; yet also involved is our friend Debbie, who works for another real estate firm, and who had first called our attention to the hill house. There are more intertwinings here [including some art elements] than it’s necessary to describe; but studying just this one complex house connection, then seeing how it combines with some of the others we’ve become conscious of; leaves Jane and me more than a little bemused by this interlocking reality we’re creating.²

So, I said to Jane, not only are we stirring things up by moving out of the apartment house, but we’re entering a situation where we will be staying put while others move away. Obvious, but intriguing: We’ll be joining the present residents of the hill neighborhood in forming a newer psychic and psychological entity than the one that existed before we arrived. Yet the full picture of our moving should include not only the myriad probabilities growing out of our own actions, but all of the probable developments involving that house next door: Whatever happenings take place there — which we’ll help create — are bound to have their effects upon us.

[...] Now ocean air is wet but it is healthy. River air is wet, but it may be healthy or unhealthy, according to the nature of the river, the land, and the attitude of the people. [...]

“As your body senses temperature changes, so it also senses the psychic charge not only of other human beings but also, believe it or not, of animals, and to a lesser extent … of plants and vegetative matter. Your tree builds up a composite of sensations of this sort, sensing not the physical dimensions of a material object, whatever it is, but the vital psychic formation within and about it.

[...] He’s dealt with the question a bit in past sessions, of course, but evidently not in the required depth. I couldn’t help but think his material wouldn’t be exactly flattering to me. I didn’t know whether I looked forward to it or not, but felt it essential that we get it. [...]

[...] They can be dealt with at that level, but that level is to some extent now a superficial one relatively speaking. Kubler-Ross’s system is still highly tinged by beliefs in the prominent necessity not just in the existence of suffering, but that it must for all of its stress upon hope (long pause) end up to a large degree in stressing certain aspects of suffering and martyrdom. [...]

[...] She had no questions for the session this evening, “But I had a feeling he might say something about that Kubler-Ross thing, and that there might be some charged material in it about me—that’s the feeling I get, so I’m just waiting....” [...]

(I spent part of the afternoon and evening writing to Tam, asking him to defend us from the well-meaning but evidently inept efforts of various people in Canada and Switzerland to arrange for translations of Jane’s work in French, Italian, and Spanish—and I’d sworn off writing such letters following the fiasco with Ariston.... [...]

[...] You may discard or dismiss “what you want” as unworthy, evil, but you must first be aware of your motives. This sounds quite simplistic, and yet it is quite practically true, but you have people professing to desire wealth while obviously doing everything possible to insure the continuance of poverty. [...]

[...] But people who write you, for example, saying “I want to make good money, but all my jobs are innocuous, or I have none,” are not facing the fact that for the time being, at least, they want poverty. [...]

[...] But what you have is a learned pattern of face-saving self-deception and nefarious (with amusement) techniques, taught by parents to children; so often you pretend to want one thing, and you may say that you “will it” to happen—perhaps because what you really want is unacceptable, or so you have been taught: it is demeaning, or evil, or whatever. [...]

Your willingness to help Ruburt walk, your encouragement—these are all important, but the most important issue is the unity, in practical terms, of imagination and will, and the generation of creative ability in health terms, that can be sparked.

Again, his condition does represent the one area where both of you have felt cowed, often hopeless, and as if your abilities worked in all directions but that one. [...] This is not only waste of time, but it adversely affects your creativity, and that frame of mind will never generate solutions, but only further difficulties in any area (emphatically).

Probabilities are not pulled in by mere whim, but through desire and intent.

[...] In some cases now this means, relatively speaking, slight enough motion, but highly important.

[...] Ruburt does not yet know what his response to the world will be—whether he wants, for example, television shows and so forth, or not—but he is now determined to respond, to be responsive, and not to simply retreat.

[...] This does not necessarily imply physical force, but instead the power of energy directed into a material action.

[...] Your problem then is not how to deal with normal aggressiveness, but how to handle it when it has remained unexpressed, ignored, and denied over a long period of time. [...]

[...] You may pretend that such material is hidden but it is quite within your conscious awareness. [...]

[...] To do it you must have a sense of courage and adventuresomeness; and tell yourself that you refuse to be cowed by ideas that after all belong to you, but are not you.

Largely—for I am simplifying here to some considerable degree, but largely—Ruburt felt little difficulties to be encountered in his private search, but in their public expression he was far more cautious. It is impossible, of course, to really separate the two, but as his work became better known, the private search became more of a public issue. [...]

(Jane said she felt Seth around by 9:20, but that she thought the session would be a short one. I told her I was primarily interested in but two things, both personal: her reactions to Mass Events and God of Jane in connection with her symptoms, and what was going on in her backside and hips. [...]

(Jane had been restless during the session, but felt pretty good now. [...] I typed half of it Tuesday night; but Tuesday morning, in keeping with our idea to ground ourselves in new ideas each day, I read the full session to her from my notes.

[...] I’ve wanted to try to film Jane reading poetry in the meantime, but each time I think of asking her —usually at night—I can see that she’s so uncomfortable that I let it go.

[...] But as I now recall them, without directly checking on our friend the Pope, who has, you must understand, gone his own way, I am coming as close as I can. We did not have as many guards at that time, but we had many stolen paintings and jewels of great merit. [...]

It is not my purpose to go into my past existences in any great detail, but to use them to make certain points. First of all, I have been many times both man and woman, and I have immersed myself in various occupations, but always with the idea of learning so that I could teach. [...]

[...] In that life my main occupation was that of a merchant, but I was a highly curious gentleman, and my travels gave me access to many different groups of people.

The bells were only a small portion of my business, which dealt largely with cloths and dyes, but they fascinated me. [...]

(11:34.) But you worry that you are a failure in the framework of that postcard American system, even though now you see quite clearly that the postcard system is not bright and glossy, but a facade, behind which lurks a great sadness. [...]

(“Twenty minutes later I’m sitting at the front living room table, feeling relaxy and good about things, when I catch an odd brief but lovely experience; something happened momentarily; I felt as if I was seeing with all of me, instead of just with my eyes.... [...] but there was a fuller visual appreciation or fullness difficult to verbalize....”

[...] Try as I might, I couldn’t find the proper adjective to describe the groin sensations; they weren’t ones of pain—but what?

[...] I thought of asking Jane for help, but disliked doing so because I could see that she was doing very well. [...]

[...] There is a moment, a brief but vital moment in such an act of creation, when you are dealing with the underlying vitality of which I have spoken. [...] But for this moment you pluck this vitality from the inner senses, you grab ahold of this fuel with both hands. [...]

[...] She first noticed this phenomena two sessions ago but for some reason never mentioned it to me. [...]

[...] Seth spelled out his greeting on the board but Jane began to receive him within immediately. [...]

[...] I am not a doctor but I am certainly giving you a dose.

There is no past, present or future in your terms within it, but only a now. [...] Remember your expanding universe theory, but not in terms of space or indeed in terms of time, but in terms of fulfillment of abilities and values that may be constructed upon various levels and in various guises, your present plane of existence being one.

In their materialization upon your plane, and as seen from your own camouflage perspective, you seem to be aware of new entities, but this is because of your own limited viewpoint. In your time scheme entities have had time to produce more fragmentary personalities, but in truth from your viewpoint these personalities can be seen to have changed long ago.

I also said that new entities were being formed, but in the framework of the spacious present all this is spontaneous. [...] But I want it understood that this is true only within your own time framework.

There is a truth behind your cause and effect theory but it is far from what you imagine, and has nothing to do with continuity. This may be difficult at this point to imagine, but a durability such as that of the spacious present has nothing to do with your idea of continuity in terms of a present, past and future.

The experience of any given unit, constantly changing, affects all other units … Give us time … It is difficult to explain because your concepts of selfhood are so limited … These units contain within themselves, in your terms, all “latent” identities, but not in a predetermined fashion. Selves may be quite independent within the framework of their own reality, while still being a part of a larger reality in which their independence works not only for their own benefit, but for the sake of a greater structure.

[...] It uses a time context instead, with each self given a body and a time; but a knowledge of the ideas of multipersonhood could help you realize that you have available many abilities not being used, latent to you but still important in your entire identity, and significant enough to you personally to be developed.

[...] “The material doesn’t seem like a book, but when I started getting stuff in my sleep after the last two sessions, I did wonder …” I had to laugh: She hadn’t mentioned her own suspicions to me. [...] “I love them, though — but another book? [...]

1. Jane uses “multipersonhood” on the last page of Chapter 11 in her Adventures in Consciousness: An Introduction to Aspect Psychology. “But really,” she said, “the whole chapter builds up toward that definition, or idea.” [...] In her own case, then, Seth would be a personification of an Aspect of her source self; but he would also have an existence of his own at other levels of reality.

“You are indeed playing a game with yourself, but it is not relevant, and it may be irrelevant. But you had better play it reverently.”

But, as often happens when I try to second-guess Seth, I was really wrong. [...] Back in the living room, Seth was describing what I was seeing, but I was only distantly aware of his voice. [...]

[...] Yet Seth not only took him on, but in some way I still don’t understand, he used Gene’s own terminology and jargon to beat him at his own game—and with humor and grace.

“You can experience the illusion, but when you experience the illusion as an illusion, you no longer experience it. [...]