“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(As we were eating lunch today Jane said she thought Seth would discuss the question of good and evil, re our conversation on those subjects the other day. Before the session I showed her a copy of my dream for last Monday morning—one that had been so unpleasant that I’d avoided writing it down until after supper tonight. It’s on file in my notebook for August 7, 1978. In the dream I saw myself as a rather corpulent older individual wearing robes as they do in the Middle East; at an elaborate feast I watched mice being burned alive in a special gadget, before we skinned and ate their corpses. In the dream I swore off doing so ever again. The dream has stayed very vividly with me ever since I had it. Once I’d written it down, I saw that its subject matter fit in very well with the idea of good and evil, and told Jane I hoped Seth would use it in any discussion of his own.

To eat is good. To consume other creatures at your level of existence is natural. It is how the earth is replenished. To torture other creatures in the terms of this discussion is not at all “natural.” The animals, however, are embarked upon a different avenue than you. The development of tools gave man options in the way and manner of killing his prey.

(9:44.) He will learn to be consciously well-intentioned. Again, simple enough. He will consciously seek his own good – not at the expense of others, for he will realize that he cannot achieve any good in that manner. You cannot kill a chicken, personally now, and eat it comfortably. You certainly cannot kill a cow by yourselves. Indirectly, however, you know that the slaughterhouses are cruel—that animals are not killed quickly or cleanly, and to some extent the psychic disquiet of those animals is consumed with their meat. Animals killed quickly and cleanly make better food.

Now give us a moment.... As to Ruburt: first of all, he is at another stage, and one in which motion should be gently—persistently but gently—encouraged. His purpose and his psychological progress have led him to further activations, and as I have said several times, this means that sometimes he will feel like walking, and will do so with a relative amount of balance, and on other occasions, perhaps 20 minutes earlier or later, his walking might be uncomfortable and “worse” in performance.

They are getting used to his weight, now, hence the feeling of soreness. He also experiences feelings of release in those same areas when sitting, however. He should not forget that.

He has been used to putting his full weight on that right leg, so he is more aware of the sensations. He has a tendency then to favor it for a while. The left knee has also loosened, and the entire back of the left leg, the altered position of the right leg however means that the left leg is also uncomfortable when he walks. It tries to release further, but the unaccustomed new positions of the right ankle make him feel insecure.

The arms have again further lengthened, and the shoulder blades are pulling apart more. It is not just lengthening, however, that is required, for the released muscles must learn to operate in new ways—and this has to do with the joints as well. His physical progress then is excellent.

He has been exercising because he wants to. Let him give himself the opportunity, as he has been, to walk twice a day, as far as he wants, or as briefly. Just so he allows the opportunity, for his own peace of mind, but do not force the body. You will not need to. Now he tries to walk when you are in the kitchen so as not to bother you, but there will be times when he will want to, and can simply call.

The gentle encouragement and the gentle stretching of the legs in his chair is excellent. They will gradually loosen and take his weight. And now after this weighty session I bid you a fond good evening—with the point that the eyes should show more improvement now as the neck ligaments are loosening.

One small note that occurred to me: for whatever reasons—I will not discuss them now—Ruburt did not feel particularly that you needed or wanted his physical help in matters that you could perform more efficiently by yourself. To the contrary, he felt that he got in your way, got under foot, and that you preferred to do without such “help.”

He did not feel encouraged in those directions in the kitchen. This was the result of his own situation, of course—and yet it is also a symptom of the joint situation as each of you set it up, for as he abdicated responsibilities, so you rationalized your fears, and did not encourage that kind of activity to the extent that you might have.