“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now, good evening.

This is your friendly marriage counselor—and you had better listen to me, both of you. Now give me a moment.

(To Sue:) Now you have been projecting your fears about yourself outward, so that all of your husband’s remarks were interpreted in that light. This aggravated some of his own original conceptions. Some of your interpretations were legitimate, based upon his attitudes, but many more were the innermost doubts that you have not faced as to who you were, and deep questions involving the nature of your person as it is related to your particular sex in this life.

You felt hardly strong enough to handle your own fears, and could not bear the thought that she might need your help also. Now even in her position, she made efforts to get across to you, and bridges that could cross her own fear to you, but you were not able to meet her because you feared the chasm of despair within yourself.

Now, I am going to take a break while my friend (Rob) reads back what I have said, and then I will return. There is hope for both of you yet, singly, and/or together. You will have to face yourselves individually no matter what you do, and you will have to do this before you can see each other with any clearness.

(To Sue:) Now. You have felt for a long time that you were between the devil and the deep blue sea. That you had a mind and a womb, and that somehow the two did not go together. Regardless of past-life influences, which did exist, and granting some other interior reasons, you had a child to prove that you were a woman both to your mother and to yourself.

(To Carl:) Now this was a poor-enough bargain for her to make, but for you to add to it in her mind, to demand that she prove this womanhood daily with the dishes or the housework or whatever, was too much for her to bear, and she felt doubly betrayed by you and by herself.

(To Sue:) Now these attitudes have a false premise, and knowing the premise is false will give you much more freedom. With what you know now you should realize that in each life you have different abilities. You may express yourself through a different sexual nature, and you should realize that both are necessary. The idea against which you rebel is a very temporary social premise that is already beginning to disappear. So you need not fight that battle all of your life.

Now give me a moment. (Pause.

(To Carl:) From your own parents you also have some false premises, having to do with sex. Now. You have been twice as upset over your own fears because you are a man, and think that a man should be free of them. You also find yourself in the position where you believe you should be the entire support of your family, and where you know you have both been taking the easy way out, and you hate yourself for it.

(To Carl:) Now, many of your own personal problems have to do with two main issues. One is your environment, and the other is your physical experience for the last few years in particular—say, since you went to college.

Now give us time here. (Pause.)

The affair with the women represented a deeper betrayal to your wife, since it meant that of all things you not only did not accept her brain, but now her body also. Now you have not come to grips with this deep despondency of your own, and you can do so. It is not nearly as deep or secret as you suppose, and there are some practical methods you can use to minimize its effects while you learn.

(To me.) Now read that back.

(To Carl:) Now. You feel your emotions. You seldom reflect upon them. You know many of your attitudes. You seldom look for the reasons behind the attitudes. You accept your attitudes at their face value.

You project your feelings upon the world and take it for granted that the world is what your feelings say it is. You accept your own attitudes toward yourself at their face value. They are attitudes of long standing. They were formed before you had any ability to reflect upon them, and now you have your relative dislike of reading, distrust of verbal expression, for example. You think of yourself as someone who tries to deal directly with the world through experience.

You think that reading is secondhand experience. You think you think that. Now many of these ideas come to you because of your attitude toward your father. You have not examined for 5 years, personally, your attitude toward yourself. You have simply accepted it as truth.

Now a session for you earlier would not have had the impact of this one, or I would have given you such a session. (To both.) Now you know I will not say you should do thus and so, but the inner information I am giving you should be added to your knowledge as you assess the situation.

Now the challenges you both have can indeed be met within the framework of marriage, and can perhaps be best worked out in that fashion. They can also be worked out separately. If you decide to continue, the entire atmosphere must change. She must be encouraged to express her emotions and her abilities.

(Humorously:) Now I am not calling either of you down. I am not exactly giving you a medal, either.

Now read that back.

Now. You have had quite a bit for one night, but each of you can creatively use these problems, and turn them to your advantage, and this is a learning process in which you are both involved. It is not always an easy matter of saying no, and I do see both of you handling your situations well. Do not feel hopeless, and do not feel that you are failures. This is a point of time for you that in other ways has already passed, that you will look back upon. You are not caught in the moment. Request information therefore from your inner selves, and release your perceptions so that you clearly perceive the answers that you receive. You do have the abilities to solve these issues. Remind yourselves therefore of that fact, and do not tell yourselves that your situation in any case is a hopeless one.

Now. Would you have preferred not to be consciously aware of the information I gave you tonight?

Now I bid you both a fond good evening. (To Carl:) Open your eyes. Within yourself you will find more than despair, Carl. Let yourself be flooded with inner realizations that are within you. They are your bridge, not only to yourself but to your wife. Hopelessness will not repair the situation.