“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(The session was also witnessed by Estelle and Dave Craig, 1750 E. 21st Street, Brooklyn, New York. The Craigs drove up from New York City late this afternoon to attend the session. Jane was recommended to them by Ray Van Over; they wanted information on the death and attendant circumstances of their son Michael, who died last month at a little over 3 years of age.

(Michael had been an exceptionally warm, sensitive and brilliant child. He had begun to speak at but a few months age. He had been good at numbers, and along with Dave interested in astronomy. He died at 3 years, 4 months. He was born on a Thursday, June 10 at 6:08, and died on a Thursday in October, 1968 at 6:08, almost 4 years to the day from conception. Dave and Estelle were curious about the play of similar numbers here, among other things—since these notes touch upon but a small part of the information given Jane and me through the evening.

(Dave and Estelle are both 32. Dave is a disc jockey, and had auditioned for a job in New York City today. Estelle took shorthand notes of the session. Seth spoke rather rapidly this evening, and I missed notes in a few spots, which will be indicated. Estelle’s notes may be more complete than mine, and for this reason we plan to exchange copies of the session.

Now. You do not know each other, our guests, and you have come a long way. Therefore we will give what information or advice that we have without fear of embarrassment on your parts (to Dave and Estelle). For the two of you must grow together more, the husband and the wife.

The father however had a particularly unpleasant life in 14th Century France, and (to Dave) if you will refuse what you had learned in the past, he could not force you to remember. But he could give you a nudge and a push, gently, and in this existence he did so.

(To Dave:) You always have control. You are the one who is always in control, and you knew before you and your wife met, subconsciously, the circumstances that had gone before, and the reason for your meeting, and your son knew. He went before you as he has gone before you in the past.

Now, I have lived and died many times, and you must admit (Seth speaks strongly and humorously, forcefully, eyes open) that you can sense my vitality; and so I can tell you that the vitality of the boy exists in as vital terms. It would have been indeed almost a penance for him to have stayed here longer. You did not save his life one time, you helped him save his soul, and he gallantly returned the favor; for he at one time was tempted to use his abilities for power and to use the priesthood for gain, and on that occasion you stopped him. (Seth pointed to Dave.)

(To Dave:) Now, he had a mathematical knowledge, and you also have this whether or not you realize it. It results from priestly existences where you were both highly involved with calculations having to do with the movement of planets. This also has something to do with the hour of his birth and death, for he had a sense of neatness, and it pleased him to time his arrival and departure.

(11:30. Seth again ended on a strongly humorous note. The pace had been fast, as noted. Dave told us he had been good in math until the ninth grade, when he left it for other interests—singing, communications work, acting, etc.

(Dave now gave us much of the information I’ve incorporated in the notes at the beginning of the session. Seth resumed at 11:47.)

Now. No one can tell you (to Dave) what road to follow.

(Smile.) You were a cowboy(to Dave), but not in this country. In France. You were not professionally a cowboy, but you dealt with transportation involved with horses. You did not die by gun wound. (Dave had said he thought he had, at last break.) You inflicted such a wound upon another, though this was in self-protection, and emotional impetus of the time was strongly written upon your inner memory.

No. The information as I gave it I thought to be particularly clear. (Now Jane, as Seth, pointed to Dave and Estelle) And yes, here, for another child—one who needs to be cherished and guarded and has a fate to fulfill in physical reality, who will need you. You needed your son. The other child will need you.