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TES9 Session 444 October 30, 1968 19/88 (22%) Holzer Fodor robed Mossman Nandor
– The Early Sessions: Book 9 of The Seth Material
– © 2014 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 444 October 30, 1968 9 PM Wednesday

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

Jane does not call herself Jane as a writer; Ruburt on other occasions; Seth on other occasions, and so forth. There would be nothing wrong in such a framework, providing the various subdivisions worked together well. The Jane personality as a whole in that case would still be integrated, various portions of it simply designated for different kinds of work and ability.

[... 4 paragraphs ...]

Now. Jane is correct in the idea she received from me this afternoon. Ruburt does not have my knowledge. I will always be your main communicator. The other two personalities (Ruburt and Seth’s entity) have been involved at my request, for purposes having to do with our material and purposes.

Now apropos (Nandor) Fodor’s book (the title will be given at the end of this session), yes, Jane, there is a Seth (emphatic delivery, leaning forward, eyes open), and I was not born a psychic infant from your own personality. Nor was I formed in such a manner. (Relaxed, a smile.)

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

I am utterly independent of Jane in any terms that have practical meaning in generally held concepts of personality. I did not emerge from Ruburt’s personality nor person in any way. I have lived often in physical existence. But in larger terms, quite unacceptable at present to psychology, all of us are part of the same entity. Do you understand the difference?

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

(Seth dealt with this subject some two or three years ago.)

[... 14 paragraphs ...]

(I did not have time to speculate about who I was seeing. In perhaps a minute the experience had passed. Jane was still speaking as Seth. )

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

(Pause.) Give us a moment. I will have a message for your Tam shortly. Not in connection with the book (on the Seth material) but with his own experiences. (Long pause.)

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

(10:20. Jane again left trance fairly quickly. She said she knew what blocking Seth was referring to; she felt herself “come up” just before break. The material Seth wanted to discuss was about Jane and Ruburt and Jane’s writing. Jane believed it was an extension of the arrangement Seth mentioned briefly on page 124, when he talked about Jane accepting inspiration and ideas from Ruburt without realizing it.

[... 9 paragraphs ...]

Now. You, Joseph—I will speak to you as Robert. You and Jane are a part of the same entity. You know that you are not Jane. Jane knows that she is not you. In the same way I am not Jane, and Jane is not me. You share some general joint memories with Jane, even before your acquaintanceship and despite the difference in your physical ages. These having to do with national and cultural events, so they are common to you both. This does not mean because you have some general common memories, that you and Jane are one individual.

Yet a psychologist would come to this conclusion if the same statement were made about myself and Jane. Now we as portions of one entity, have certain memories that could be compared to the general cultural ones that you and Jane share, even before you met. These however, that you have, are obviously felt by you both in an entirely different manner, because of your own different viewpoints and so forth.

The same is true of entities and various personalities that are allied with them. Your own creativity, your painting, has always had a psychic basis, and in your case—back to our analogy—self 3 has helped you. Self 2 followed the same path, relatively speaking, as Ruburt’s self 2. You had better substitute Jane there.

[... 9 paragraphs ...]

(See page 113 of the 443rd session for October 21, 1968. Seth told us Jane would soon hear from healer Edwards, in England, again soon after she had mailed him her monthly report.)

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

(Tam Mossman, editor at Prentice-Hall; they are considering publishing the Seth material. See the 442nd session, page 107, October 14, 1968. Therein Seth stated that Jane would receive “rather unexpected word concerning a book.”

(In a letter dated Oct. 23 Tam Mossman wrote us that Hans Holzer would consider doing the introduction for the Seth Material, provided he was listed as co-author. This was quite unexpected by us, and the offer was turned down. We had known Mossman might ask Holzer to do an intro, but Holzer’s demand to co-author the book was not suspected by us.

(See also the notes preceding the 443rd session. These deal with an unexpected royalty check for Jane from F. Fell, and I wanted to know if this event was the unexpected word concerning a book. We did not particularly think so. Due to the pressure of other events however Seth never answered my query on this.)

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

(See pages 111-12 of the 442nd session for Oct. 14, 1968 in which Seth warns us not to get into other cars. We have scrupulously followed this advice since October 14, and to date no mishaps have taken place. This auto data was one I wanted to ask about particularly.)

[... 6 paragraphs ...]

(See page 107 of the 442nd session for October 14, 1968, in which Seth said a considerable improvement can shortly be expected in Jane’s physical condition.)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(“Good night, Seth, and thank you. It’s been very interesting.”

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

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