“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

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We are having difficulty with Ruburt here, for he thinks of Vivian and your mother. The impression of a round orange object, or representation.

The metal image or feeling seems to predominate with the cubes. These, of course, could be on a rectangular object. The letter M in caps here.

(See the copy of the envelope object on page 115 and the notes on the next page. As stated the object was a bill for art supplies from The Art Shop. Jane had never seen the object; I obtained it today, October 24, from Marjorie Buck, the proprietor, when I bought pencils and paper stumps with which to do the job my old friend, Bill Ward, mailed to me over the weekend. The job arrived yesterday. See the notes on page 116 for an explanation here, since these facts enter into the envelope data, we believe.

(Jane was also quite amused when the management of the YWCA asked her if she wanted to volunteer her services, when they learned of my family connections here in Elmira; for the social connections.

(Note that in here Seth gives three blocks of data relating to one facet of the events connected to the bill used as object. This involved Bill Ward and his product. Before that, Marjorie Buck was involved, with the object itself and its origin.

(“An article that opens up.” I believe there are two choices of interpretation here. I favor the first one: that the data refers to the large flat package in which Bill Ward mailed me the artwork to be finished. “Writing on the inside and outside.” The package of course contained writing both inside and outside. “Or at least the inside and outside are covered.” This may refer to the package in a somewhat distorted manner. Or it may refer quite accurately to the envelope object itself, which would be the second possibility for this block of data.

(“A rectangular package, covered with white tissue paper, and divided in fours by a slim blue ribbon.” Jane had an image here. She saw mentally the four divisions, and had the feeling of blue—of a white package with blue lines or ribbons dividing it.

(Distortion probably operates here. Note that the bill used as the object has blue lines upon it. Bill Ward’s artwork arrived in a large rectangular package, but contained no tissue paper and bore no ribbons or string; it was instead sealed with tape. Nor did it contain any blue. Jane thinks she may have received accurate-enough data from Seth about a package, and constructed perhaps the ribbons herself because that is symbolic of packages. She used blue ribbons perhaps through a distortion of the blue pertaining to the envelope object.

(“Some orange or red perhaps.” In light of the data obtained in answer to the second question, it is quite possible that the red reference here concerns my mother. Red is very definitely her favorite color, a fact of which Jane is well aware. Seth has also commented upon this quite a few times.

(2nd Question: Who are the two women you mentioned? Initials? “We are having difficulty with Ruburt here, for he thinks of Vivian and your mother.” See the interpretation of the “two women and a man” data at the bottom of page 120. I tried to clarify that data here. My thought was that the two women and a man Seth referred to were Marjorie Buck, Ruth Gridley, and Roy Fox, all connected directly to The Art Shop, which furnished the bill used as envelope object. Jane evidently had in mind my mother, and Vivian and Bill Crowder, relatives from Virginia whom we saw this weekend. Seth apparently wanted to lead Jane away from the relative connection; but still volunteered no more specific information.

(See the Jungle Gym data, interpreted on page 121. Here I sought to get more information. As stated, and seen on page 115, the bill used as object contains vertical lines as well as horizontal, and these are quite thin on the actual object. The outdoors reference above stems from Jane’s original mention of a Jungle Gym on page 121, and this would lead to the green data.

(There is another possible green connection, one obvious to anyone familiar with printing or commercial art, although I do not think it applies here. But the paper the object is manufactured from is a bright yellow, and the yellow is printed upon with blue ink. Blue and yellow ordinarily would print green. But in this case the blue ink is so dense and strong that it prints as blue on the object. No hint of green is to be seen. Jane is not aware of these mechanical points.

(5th Question: Who is that child you referred to? “The vague impression that it is a boy rather than a girl, and an initial R or B. Or, this is an image of someone, male, as a youngster who was born in 1936, or who is now 36 years old. A review you see.” We can still offer no connections here. But see page 117, regarding the death of Wendell Cowley’s daughter at the age of 10. Year unknown.

(6th Question: What shape is the object? “I am confused between a metallic image, or the feeling of metal. The cube shapes, and the impression of a rectangular shape also. The metal image or feeling seems to predominate with the cubes. These of course could be on a rectangular object.” Interpretations have already been given for the cubes, Jungle Gyms, metallic data, and the rectangular package, and Jane still cannot quite sort them out here.

(All are apparently linked with the envelope object in some fashion. The Art Shop bill used as object is rectangular in shape, but Jane mentioned a rectangular package earlier so we are not sure of what interpretation to assign here.

(“The letter M in caps here.” Possibly good data, and a strong link with the bill used as object. The bill was made out by Marjorie Buck, proprietor of The Art Shop. We are often unsure as to what, or how much, meaning to give initials like this. There are other M’s, both upper and lower case, on the bill. See page 115. Actually Marjorie’s name doesn’t appear on the bill at all.