“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

This does not mean that you do not exist however in the apparent interval. Our discussion concerning the nature of matter is important here, for I explained the pulsations that occur in atoms. Your perception of time causes many difficulties when you try to examine reality as it exists independent of matter. The limitations of verbal communications make some explanations difficult. (See Volumes 1 and 2, for example.)

The consciousness exists however. The consciousness as it reasserts itself within physical reality has no memory of the interval in which it did not physically exist. The inner self however retains all memory. Dreams allow consciousness to disentangle itself from physical reality. For various reasons the intervals here, you see, are to some extent recalled.

A large variety of dreams are the memories of this nonphysical existence that constantly occurs, though in waking life you are seldom aware of them. This cycle that psychologists have recently discovered, having to do with the various dream levels, corresponds to the ebb and tide of consciousness as it appears within and disappears from physical reality. It creates physical reality, as you know.

There is an ebb and tide. Your consciousness is not fully focused within physical reality, even during those intervals when you exist within it. The focus varies considerably, and in certain rhythm.

The amount of focus and the intensity varies according to the individual, but consciousness is never entirely focused within physical reality. Now when conscious projections occur you are taking advantage of these intervals between materializations. You may call these nonintervals, actually.

Your idea of time does not exist within such intervals. You do not even take it with you. Now these nonintervals are indeed openings into other realities, and you can theoretically explore them. They exist as actually as physical reality. You are doing the same thing when you realize you are dreaming, and decide to explore, say, a distant landscape that appears within the dream.

For this is a noninterval to the inner self. This material is extremely important. One portion of you leaves the inner self to explore in depth a particular noninterval. To the inner self no time passes. You experience of course physical time. This noninterval however creates its own interval points that you also explore, in your dreams and waking projections that escape your ordinary consciousness.

In exploring these nonintervals however (smile) you also create that which you explore, for none of this exists without creative consciousness. This evening’s material, read along with the discussions concerning the nature of action, will give you a more comprehensive idea of what I am trying to tell you.

Some dreams as you know are more closely allied with physical reality than others. Some however are excellent as thresholds for conscious projection. What Fox called awake-seeming dreams are excellent. These can be produced during relatively brief naps also.

The pure and brilliant quality of the surroundings have much in common with the appearance physical reality has for children. The physical senses seem to operate with such efficiency that you think you are awake, but their brilliancy is superperfect. As soon as you realize what type of dream this is, then with practice you can project within it consciously, and explore your environment.

Tree shapes and an arch. A note that was not answered. This leads Ruburt to think, for his own reasons, of his ESP book notices. I tell you this for your own information.

(See the tracing of the object and the notes on page 284. As stated we obtained the parking ticket used as object on July 12,1966 at Robert Treman State Park, Ithaca, NY, and I kept track of this date by attaching a note to the ticket. Other visits to the same park later in the week enter into the data, and these will be discussed as the need arises. Seth also helps out after break. In the meantime Jane and I began making our own connections with the object.

(“The color red. Circular red. Green and an off-blue. A cross designation. Tree shapes and an arch. A note that was not answered. This leads Ruburt to think, for his own reasons, of his ESP book notices. I tell you this for your own information. 6 plus 1, or 7 times.” Most of these led us to consider various connections, some probably correct enough had we asked Seth to verify them. Since we didn’t take the time we cannot claim them.