“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(There may also be correlations via dreams but we haven’t made any effort to study this, nor has Seth been asked.

Indeed, Ruburt was correct before our session. He said that I might speak about dream locations, since he has been working on this subject for his own book.

He wants to know in what dimension dream locations have their reality, and indeed he has considered all of the possibilities save the correct one. The correct one is the most simple one.

Now. He has taken it for granted that dream locations do not exist within physical space.

Dream locations exist in so-called physical space as truly, or as falsely, as physical objects exist in physical space. As you should know by now, physical objects are only the results of your own perception, and this perception is based upon your psychological makeup, your physical structure, certain combinations of nerves and chemical reactions. As any physicist will tell you, you perceive objects, and you perceive solid objects—

When you are dealing with dream locations you are not dealing with mass-perceptions, but with personal perceptions. There is no need therefore for any complicated arrangements calculated to insure agreement between persons as to location in space.

Each dream location is created by the individual precisely in the same way that I have explained to you; that is, they do not differ basically from physical locations, but in one degree. The difference is mainly that they need not be perceived by others.

The question however, in what dimensions do dream locations exist, was simply based. Nevertheless it is one that has many implications, for which you need more background. I will attempt a simplified explanation then. Do you remember some of the material that I gave concerning the expanding universe?

(See sessions 42-45. But as early as the 15th session Seth was discussing these problems as related to dreams. All in Volume 1.)

I said then that the universe expands in a way that has nothing to do with space. Now. A dream location exists, contracts or expands also in a way that has nothing to do with space as you understand it.

There is a rather important section in the work he did today. He hit upon something, and if he had continued working, then he would not have needed to ask me in what dimension dream locations exist. He was close to the answer. In this particular section he told the reader that he suspected that Freud’s terms, the ego, or the conscious and the subconscious, had in themselves led you seriously astray. Such is indeed the case.

Pretend, all of you for a moment, that you are looking at this situation from the other side. Pretend that while you are in the dream state, you are concerned with the problem of consciousness and existence. From that viewpoint the picture is entirely different, for you are indeed conscious while you sleep.

The locations that you visit while dreaming are as real to you then as physical locations are to you in your waking state.

In the waking state the whole self is focused toward physical reality. In the dreaming state the whole self is focused within a different dimension. It is every bit as conscious and aware.

Now. If you have little memory of your dream locations while you are in the waking state, then remember you have as little memory of waking locations when you are in the dream state. Both are legitimate, and both are realities.

For Ruburt then: When the physical body lies in bed, that physical body is separated by a vast distance from the dream location in which the dreaming self may dwell. But this distance, dear friends, has nothing to do with space. For the dream location exists simultaneously with the room in which the body dwells.

The dream locations are not superimposed upon the chest and bed and chair. They exist composed of the very atoms and molecules that in the waking state you perceive as bed and chest and chair.

When, in the dream state, you are focused in a different dimension, then you see you form from these same atoms and molecules the environment in which you will operate. Yet while you dream you cannot find the bed nor chest nor chair, and when you wake you cannot find the room or city or location which was there moments before.

It cannot be too strongly stressed that these dream locations are actualities. But as a rule they are personal actualities, without a general (underline general) mass framework. However mass dreams do occur (underlined). There are dreams that you share with others. There are dream environments that you share, as you share your physical environment. These are not as limiting however as that framework that holds together your physical reality. Nevertheless it does exist.