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TES4 Session 192 September 25, 1965 25/70 (36%) silt lake artifacts cove Bill
– The Early Sessions: Book 4 of The Seth Material
– © 2013 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 192 September 25, 1965 11:45 PM Saturday Unscheduled

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(Jane and I went dancing as usual this evening. At one of our favorite spots we met the Gallaghers, Bill and Peggy. It ended up that the four of us returned to our apartment by about 11:15 PM. Jane said she felt Seth “buzzing around”, but since I had just caught up on my notes for the three other sessions this week, I begged off. Jane agreed. The Gallaghers were tired and planned to leave soon also.

(Seth announced his presence as the four of us sat quietly talking, at approximately 11:45 PM. Bill and Peggy share the cost of a cottage on Seneca Lake with other members of Peggy’s family, and had been taking steps to sell the cottage this fall. Bill dislikes seeing it go, since he uses it as a base for his skin-diving expeditions in the lake, which is one of New York State’s famous Finger Lakes.

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(The first point I would like to make is that Seth told us enough of the clairvoyant material involving Dr. Instream is valid; this will keep up the doctor’s interest. The second point concerns the main subject matter of the session, which evolved from a question I asked Seth about the Gallagher’s cottage on Seneca Lake. Bill was inspired to ask Seth whether it would be possible to locate Indian artifacts on the lake bottom; he had long been curious about this.

(By this, Bill meant American Indian artifacts, and had in mind stone tools, etc. Seth surprised us by telling us this was quite possible. Then he added that in a certain location could be found bronze artifacts in the lake. There was much here, including some generalized locations and descriptions, that is not recorded. Suffice it to say that Seth made no error in using the word bronze. He also said these artifacts would date from either the 7th century, or the 17th century.

(A break came at about 12:45. During it, Bill said he thought the information from Seth was sure to be pretty fragmented. Either that, or such artifacts were not Indian at all. Bill knows something of local history. He told us the 7th century reference would be correct if the Vikings were to be involved, since, he said, this date in history finds Viking evidence in the Great Lakes to the west. As far as he knew, there is no record of Viking activity in this part of the northeast, in New York State.

(Bill also said the 17th century date could be correct if bronze artifacts were shown to be related to the Jesuit missionaries, who were known to be in this section of the country then. Bill has done extensive skin diving in Seneca Lake. Jane and I had heard him mention this rather casually, but knew nothing of the extent of his explorations or deep interest. We had not discussed the subject. Nor has either of us ever done any skin diving.

(Bill was by now so interested that both he and I began to take verbatim notes when Seth resumed, since Bill planned to go diving Sunday. The hour was already late. Jane spoke while sitting down. Her eyes opened occasionally, her voice remained quiet. She smoked. She resumed at 12:55.)

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([Bill:] “At what time of the year?”)

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([Bill:] “Yes, yes. That’s just the way they are.”)

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([Bill:] “Do you mean cove, or cave?”)

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(Jane’s eyes now opened. She looked at Bill and me, scribbling away, and smiled. Her voice remained quiet.)

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([Bill, laughing:] “Well, I can always tear these up. We want to make use of the information if we can, though.”)

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([Bill:] “That’s right.”)

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([Bill:] “Yes, that’s right. I’ve seen those deposits change many times.”)

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(Break at 1:15. Jane was well dissociated, she said. Her voice had remained quiet, her pace had been good. Bill Gallagher was quite excited. Both he and Peggy verified Seth’s information about the changes in silting on the lake bottom; Jane was highly gratified to learn that Seth was correct. As far as I know neither Jane or I have come across such specific information; certainly we have never discussed it with the Gallaghers.

(Bill now told us that he waits until certain times of the year, when the silt clears up, to go diving. He knows that the formation of nitrogen is somehow related to the dying of algae in the lake, but could not explain it exactly to us.

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(“Has Bill ever been near any of these locations on his swims?”)

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([Bill:] “I can smell the trouble already.”)

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([Bill:] “I’d better get myself a good set of fins.”)

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([Bill:] “Yes, it can.”)

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([Bill:] “Oh yes it can. It certainly can.”)

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([Bill:] “Yes, I’ll say.”)

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(End at 2:35 AM. This proved to be the end of the session even though Seth called it a break. The Gallaghers wanted to have energy for diving later in the day, so called it quits. Before leaving, Bill told us how right Seth was about silt storms; he related a terrifying incident in which he had become involved in a silt storm, and lost his sense of orientation.

(Jane said she had been really dissociated. All of this material about the strange underwater world was new to both of us, and Jane felt particularly good about having it verified so enthusiastically by Bill. It appeared to be at least an excellent example of telepathy, surpassing even the unscheduled 182nd session. It will be remembered that in that one, which the Gallaghers also witnessed, Seth delivered facts about Bill’s deceased mother that neither Jane or I were familiar with.

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(Bill told us that later today, Sunday, while at the lake, he would try to check upon some locations as defined rather poorly by Seth. Both Jane and I urged caution. The turn the material took this evening surprised us. We didn’t know what to make of gold chests, Venus in the ascendancy, etc.

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