“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Friday evening, January 21, Jane had some success hypnotizing both Bill and Peggy Gallagher at their request, separately. The experiment was not planned. Peggy has been hypnotized twice—one of these times by Dr. Milton Erickson—but this was Bill’s first experience. Dr. Erickson is nationally known.

(Jane achieved partial success with Bill on two attempts. The first try was the best. Bill was unable to open his eyes and developed good amnesia in his left hand, these being the tests Jane used to show him something about the trance state. However he was not able to speak during either session, and came out of the state both times when Jane asked him to answer questions. He did succeed in relaxing very well. This is difficult for him to do; he has ulcers.

(Nor was Peggy able to speak during her first session and left the state when Jane began to ask her questions. On the second attempt Jane succeeded quite well by using a more authoritative approach. She did not ask Peggy questions this time. Peggy attained a deep enough state to show no reaction when Jane placed our cat, Willy, on her stomach as she lay on the divan. Peggy has a deep fear of animals in general and cats in particular, this being why Seth calls her the cat lover.

(All of us, including Peggy, were amused when she insisted that she tolerated Willy’s presence because she thought Jane was touching her, instead of the cat.

(I was somewhat dubious about Jane’s hypnosis attempts since we haven’t had time to do much work in this direction lately. But Jane said she felt like it, and the Gallaghers insisted that she try. I didn’t think Bill could be easily hypnotized, but he was quite pleased with his results for a first attempt. Both Bill and Peggy said they thought they could have done better had Jane taken more time with her induction, yet Jane’s approach had been quite leisurely; thus time appeared to have been compressed for them.

(Seth had the interesting comment to make that he had looked out at us from Jane’s eyes during the evening, along with Jane, and that he saw us as individuals instead of composite electromagnetic images embodying our pasts, presents, and futures. On two very brief occasions Seth let his voice blast out to some extent, though not at full volume by any means. The hour was late and I was quite aware of possible reactions from neighbors in the house.

(No envelope test was held during tonight’s session.

(The session was witnessed by John Bradley, our friend from Williamsport, PA, who attends a session occasionally. John usually inspires Seth in a telepathic/clairvoyant way, and so tonight some effects were obtained also. The last session John witnessed was the 204th.

(When he first appeared John mentioned that he had attended a meeting for medical salesman in Cleveland OH earlier this month; John is a sales representative for Searle Drug. As soon as he mentioned Cleveland I asked him to say nothing more about it, in the event Seth chose to do so later. Fortunately Jane was out of the room at the moment and did not hear Cleveland mentioned.

(The session was held in our large front room, in full light as usual. Jane began speaking while sitting down and with her eyes closed. As is often the case when witnesses are present she seemed to draw upon extra energy; her pace was fast from the start, and her voice stronger and somewhat deeper than usual.)

Such an event will however occur within another time system, for all probabilities become actual, although you may not perceive them. Our friend Dunne was quite correct here.

(Break at 9:17. Jane was dissociated as usual for a first break. Her eyes had remained closed, her pace had been fast, her voice stronger, deeper, and more emphatic than usual.

Priestley was right also to some extent here. These probabilities do occur somewhere, but they will occur to a self that Priestley nor Dunne ever imagined—a self who exists simultaneously with any given individual, and who is a part of him; but a self that he will never know while he is within your particular system.

(Jane’s eyes now began to open wide for emphasis; they were very dark. Her voice was strong, her manner most emphatic and fast. She gestured frequently as she spoke.)

(Consider the whole of the next paragraph underlined, so strong and positive was Jane’s delivery.)

(Seth said a little on the above ideas when he began to give us the material on the electrical field and on moment points, several months ago. This was some time before Jane began reading Dunne and Priestley.)

(Break at 9:48. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her voice and manner had been strong and emphatic, her pace fast.

(Just before first break Seth had mentioned a 12th St. in connection with John Bradley. Jane now asked John about it, but John said he wouldn’t tell her anything about such a statement yet. Jane said she received this bit of data quite strongly while giving Seth’s other material, and that at first she wasn’t going to give voice to it because she wasn’t sure if it was from Seth or herself. Then she decided to speak it out anyhow.

(Jane’s eyes had been open and very dark during much of the above delivery. Since it was now time for the 33rd Dr. Instream test however, her eyes closed and her pace slowed considerably. Her head was down, her hands raised to her face. Resume at 10:05.)

(It was 10:14. Jane retained her position, sitting with her hands raised to her closed eyes, her head down, her voice slow.)

(Break at 10:18. Jane was dissociated as usual. She received no images, she said, while giving either the Dr. Instream or the John Bradley material.

(At first John said Seth’s material meant little or nothing to him. This is just about a standard first reaction from witnesses for whom Seth has given such material; offhand Jane and I can think of no one who has reacted differently. It takes time for memory to begin to work. As usual I read Seth’s data back to John, and as he has in past sessions he then began to make connections. See the 135th, 166th, 190th, 199th, 200th, and 204th sessions for material re. John. A fair amount of the material is telepathic and/or clairvoyant, especially that of the 204th session. Seth expands on this last session in the 205th and 206th sessions, and deals with John’s experience in hearing Seth speak to him when he was alone.

(“12th Street.” John now told us that he took several meals in the Manger Hotel—pronounced with a hard G—and had some business engagements there also. This hotel is on either 12th or 13th St. in Cleveland; John was not positive, but felt the address would be 12th Street rather than 13th Street.

(“I think also of a meeting and a fat man.” At the Sheraton-Hilton John had several meetings with Searle’s Washington, DC representative to the government, Mr. McKeown. This man engaged John in conversations designed to feel him out, John said, and did it so cleverly that the meeting in Cleveland was over before he fully realized what had taken place. John is aware that he is being considered for promotion however. Mr. McKeown, John told us, is quite overweight, but is not a truly obese person. John said his own idea of a “fat” man is one who is grossly overweight; this Mr. McKeown is not, even though on the heavy side.

(“8 o’clock.” John said this could refer to a time in the evening when he was supposed to make a telephone call, but he doesn’t consider it very relevant.

(“A stuffy place.” This is most interesting, John said, because of the fact that the Sheraton-Hilton was very stuffy during the three nights he was there. Indeed, John said, it was so stuffy at night particularly that he had trouble sleeping, and was out of bed several times.

(I might add another bit of information here, to the effect that on Jan. 8 Jane had a dream in which she saw a strange room, not a bedroom although there was a bed in it. The room, she knew in her dream, belonged to John Bradley, although she did not see him in the dream. In addition the bed had been slept in, and the bedclothes were tossed about as though John had been quite restless. The time was at night in the dream. We do not know if there is a connection here.

(“Also an apartment.” John could offer nothing here at the moment, although there was a good connection, involving the Sheraton-Hilton and Mr. McKeown. It will be explained later in the session.

(“Three alternate plans.” John said he didn’t see connections here, unless the reference was to his own personal plans. Recently he did have three plans in mind, which Jane and I also knew about, and which Seth had mentioned. These were to leave Searle and buy a restaurant in his hometown of Williamsport, PA; to stay with Searle and in Williamsport; or to demand a transfer of location from Searle, and a promotion. Mr. McKeown is involved with the last of these alternatives, so it is conceivable that “there is a question over the third.” as stated by Seth.

(“And in connection with this a tall thin man, and a discussion concerning money.” John said he accompanied a tall thin man to the Hotel Manger’s dining room, which is located next to the bar and grill. The tall thin man also has a position high up in the company, John said. John could look into the bar and grill of the Manger from where he sat while eating supper. He had a long talk with the company executive, but money was not the specific subject of the conversation.

(John was interested in whether Seth could add anything to the long range material he has given concerning Searle Drug over the past year and a half. This material is somewhat long and complicated, and is covered in the sessions John has witnessed: 37, 54, 63, 70, 95, 135, 166, 190, 204. Searle is going through a financial and management crisis, and this is reflected in the stock market; John is naturally concerned. See Volumes 1 through 5.

(Seth’s predictions for Searle include the loss of power for the current vice president, who is the son of the company’s founder, although the son may retain a titular chair. There is to be a drastic reorganization, finally, after all else fails. John, according to Seth, would be wise to remain with the company, for eventually things will work out well. Seth told John he could go as far as he desired in the company. John has been sounded out before by high officials, and was again at this Cleveland meeting.

(As stated earlier, the sounding out was quite subtle as performed by Mr. McKeown and the other official, the tall thin man. They sought to learn John’s views while not committing themselves in any way, so as to save themselves the embarrassmentof being refused. John has since written to Mr. McKeown for further information—this after he realized what was transpiring.

(As John explained company politics to us now, he said he thought he saw a connection with Seth’s mention of an “apartment.” on page 235. It will be remembered that at first John could offer nothing for this data. Mr. McKeown, John said, had gone so far as to invite him up to his private room at the Sheraton-Hilton, for more secluded talks involving the company. At the time John was somewhat surprised that a high company official would pay particular attention to him. It was during such meetings as this, and those at the Manger, that the sounding-out process commenced.

This is what I referred to, and the room is what I was thinking of as an apartment, in that it was private.

The information that was given to you and which you did not understand had to do with this man, and his impression of you had much to do with what I am saying, insofar as the company, and Philip’s connection to it, is concerned.

He was sent with a purpose.