“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Friday evening, January 21, Jane had some success hypnotizing both Bill and Peggy Gallagher at their request, separately. The experiment was not planned. Peggy has been hypnotized twice—one of these times by Dr. Milton Erickson—but this was Bill’s first experience. Dr. Erickson is nationally known.

(Jane achieved partial success with Bill on two attempts. The first try was the best. Bill was unable to open his eyes and developed good amnesia in his left hand, these being the tests Jane used to show him something about the trance state. However he was not able to speak during either session, and came out of the state both times when Jane asked him to answer questions. He did succeed in relaxing very well. This is difficult for him to do; he has ulcers.

(Nor was Peggy able to speak during her first session and left the state when Jane began to ask her questions. On the second attempt Jane succeeded quite well by using a more authoritative approach. She did not ask Peggy questions this time. Peggy attained a deep enough state to show no reaction when Jane placed our cat, Willy, on her stomach as she lay on the divan. Peggy has a deep fear of animals in general and cats in particular, this being why Seth calls her the cat lover.

(I was somewhat dubious about Jane’s hypnosis attempts since we haven’t had time to do much work in this direction lately. But Jane said she felt like it, and the Gallaghers insisted that she try. I didn’t think Bill could be easily hypnotized, but he was quite pleased with his results for a first attempt. Both Bill and Peggy said they thought they could have done better had Jane taken more time with her induction, yet Jane’s approach had been quite leisurely; thus time appeared to have been compressed for them.

I would like to give you some more material this evening concerning our inverted time system, for when you understand how it operates then you can begin to take advantage of it more readily.

When the inverted time system is understood for what it is, then the individual is in contact simultaneously with the experience gained in the so-called past, and is also able to take advantage of events which have not yet occurred within your present. This does not mean that he will be consciously aware of future events, for if you remember these events can be changed by him at any time. He is constantly making his own experience. He is constantly forming the events of the past, even as he forms the events of the present and future.

I would like these points made most clearly. Now. An event foreseen through precognition or clairvoyance, a future event, may or may not actually occur within time as you know it. For you are seeing into probabilities, and the probable event may or may not occur, within your time system.

Such an event will however occur within another time system, for all probabilities become actual, although you may not perceive them. Our friend Dunne was quite correct here.

Now. These probabilities, these events that may or may not occur, are extremely interesting. Let us consider our self one and time one. As a rule our self two can indeed view what may happen in self one’s future. However, our self two views probabilities, and some of these probabilities will indeed occur to self one. Some will not, and this is where, again, our friends Priestley and Dunne fall short.

In such a system therefore your ideas of present, past and future would not exist. Nor would your idea of one and only one event at a time be understood. Now this dimension exists in a reality which Priestley nor Dunne even began to examine.

The whole psychological formation of the perceiver is entirely different, and there is no one event out of all probable events, but there is experience of all the mathematically probable events that could happen to any given individual, within any given amount of time as you know it.

The psychological composition of the perceiving participator is therefore entirely alien to your own. In such a system however, as in your own, the perceiver is also a participator and a creator, but he does not work with your conception of time, but with probabilities. In your terms then, he would seem to delve into each moment in all of its probabilities, so that in your time on the one hand many centuries would have passed, and on the other hand only an instant.

The time system is entirely different here. The value fulfillment is quite as valid however within both systems, and in a very loose fashion this probability system could be compared to Dunne’s time three.

(Seth said a little on the above ideas when he began to give us the material on the electrical field and on moment points, several months ago. This was some time before Jane began reading Dunne and Priestley.)

We will have a break. I am anxious however to tie in this material on the system of probabilities with dreams, for at times there can be a connection; and something indeed that our friends Priestley and Dunne did not consider—for their self three can indeed wander outside of the dimensions which they assigned to him.

(Jane’s eyes had been open and very dark during much of the above delivery. Since it was now time for the 33rd Dr. Instream test however, her eyes closed and her pace slowed considerably. Her head was down, her hands raised to her face. Resume at 10:05.)

The number 4, and 8 o’clock. At least I believe the number 8 refers to time. A stuffy place. Also an apartment. Three alternate plans. Two were not followed, and there is a question over the third.

(At first John said Seth’s material meant little or nothing to him. This is just about a standard first reaction from witnesses for whom Seth has given such material; offhand Jane and I can think of no one who has reacted differently. It takes time for memory to begin to work. As usual I read Seth’s data back to John, and as he has in past sessions he then began to make connections. See the 135th, 166th, 190th, 199th, 200th, and 204th sessions for material re. John. A fair amount of the material is telepathic and/or clairvoyant, especially that of the 204th session. Seth expands on this last session in the 205th and 206th sessions, and deals with John’s experience in hearing Seth speak to him when he was alone.

(“8 o’clock.” John said this could refer to a time in the evening when he was supposed to make a telephone call, but he doesn’t consider it very relevant.

(“A stuffy place.” This is most interesting, John said, because of the fact that the Sheraton-Hilton was very stuffy during the three nights he was there. Indeed, John said, it was so stuffy at night particularly that he had trouble sleeping, and was out of bed several times.

(I might add another bit of information here, to the effect that on Jan. 8 Jane had a dream in which she saw a strange room, not a bedroom although there was a bed in it. The room, she knew in her dream, belonged to John Bradley, although she did not see him in the dream. In addition the bed had been slept in, and the bedclothes were tossed about as though John had been quite restless. The time was at night in the dream. We do not know if there is a connection here.

(As John explained company politics to us now, he said he thought he saw a connection with Seth’s mention of an “apartment.” on page 235. It will be remembered that at first John could offer nothing for this data. Mr. McKeown, John said, had gone so far as to invite him up to his private room at the Sheraton-Hilton, for more secluded talks involving the company. At the time John was somewhat surprised that a high company official would pay particular attention to him. It was during such meetings as this, and those at the Manger, that the sounding-out process commenced.