“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(We had some reservations however about trying it now, but decided to see what Seth would say. We didn’t want to give rise to a feeling of pressure on Jane during sessions, and wondered whether it was wise to try three regular tests. We want room for other material also. For this reason we had let the candle-flame tests go for the moment, even though they appear promising.

(The session was held in our large front room. Jane said she was somewhat sleepy before the session began. She began speaking while sitting down and with her eyes closed, but halfway to first break her eyes began to open occasionally. Her pace was good, her voice average.)

I mentioned that the inhabitant of the other system with whom you made contact perceived your existence in both the future and the past. He also was aware however of your own comparative imprisonment in a limited present. For the present as you know it is very limited indeed. He realized therefore, when the incident occurred, how it would end. He can relive the incident at his leisure, and experience it as present if he so chooses.

He can also remember it from any viewpoint in his future, if he chooses. He can give this information about this event to his own image as it existed in time before the contact was made. He can therefore make alterations in any aspect of time as it affects him.

We will try here to give you an example. Take for example then the house in which Ruburt spent his childhood. Now as you know, that was never one definite unchanging object. That house was a conglomeration of atoms and molecules, perceived generally as a house, but perceived specifically by everyone who saw it as a slightly different house. For each observer quite literally created from his own subconscious energy an approximation of a house, a general shape then perceived as a house, and further embellished by personal judgments.

It was, say, in 1943 even then merely a portion of space perceived by all who saw it in their own light. It did not exist devoid or apart from those who viewed it.

Time inversion would merely permit the recreation of a particular perception. The year for example 1943 was simply an artificial collection of events loosely agreed upon. The past exists to the same extent that the present or future exists, and it is only the perception that is limited.

(Break at 9:30. Jane was dissociated as usual for a first delivery. Her eyes had opened frequently after the middle of the delivery, although her pace had begun to slow somewhat.

From the viewpoint of this emerging self you can view to some extent the system in which the earlier self was mainly imprisoned. Now I speak of imprisonment. I do not speak in terms of compulsory confinement however. Your perceptions simply kept you where you were. You could not clearly see even where you were, for the dimensions were not clear to you from the inside. You could not scale the wall, so to speak. You had to grow taller, if you will forgive me for using another analogy.

(Break at 9:59. Jane was dissociated as usual, her eyes opening often. They had been very dark. Her pace had picked up considerably by break time.

(It was now time for the 29th Dr. Instream test. As usual Jane sat quietly with her hands raised to her closed eyes. Her pace was quite slow, broken by many pauses that ran to 15-20 seconds. Resume at 10:09.)

(It was 10:31. I handed Jane the 26th double sealed test envelope, and as usual she took it without opening her eyes. She pressed it to her forehead and continued to hold it there, speaking with many pauses.)

(Break at 10:40. Jane was dissociated as usual Her eyes had remained closed. When break arrived she discovered that she had left her glasses on while speaking, something she rarely does. Her pace had been slow.

(Jane said she had rather strong images visually of the data; twice she saw her white coat quite strongly. In the test she was unable to tell when she got off on the track of personal associations; somehow the fine discrimination was lacking. Jane said that by the time she approached break she knew the test had been a poor one. But she also knew the test was poor, something she wouldn’t have been able to distinguish not too long ago. She could, she said, feel herself getting involved with what she knew were incorrect images.

(The white coat connection referred to the fact that Jane wore it last Saturday evening, when it was bitter cold. Now the test object contains a poem referring to shivering pigeons and snow—hence the connection. I thought the November reference might be legitimate, since the originator of the test object, Ann Diebler, could have visited our apartment during that month. A check showed this to be so—Ann witnessing the unscheduled session for November 5,1965.

However, only by making mistakes can Ruburt learn to distinguish the highly nebulous changes, subjectively speaking, that characterize legitimate hits from failures, and without the experience he would not learn. The coat was a legitimate connection, but I could not get through to him to make it correctly. He was working on the level of personal associations. There is a certain feel to the correct channel, and he will learn to distinguish it.

Now, I was prepared to go into some other material this evening. However since it is growing late perhaps we should save it for the next session.

(End at 10:57. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her eyes were closed for the most part. She said that in poor tests she is aware of a slight feeling of strain, mentally, that could be compared to the physical feeling of strain involved when she doesn’t do a Yoga exercise quite right, or goes a little too far without adequate preparation.)