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TES5 Session 219 January 3, 1966 21/110 (19%) Lorraine Bunn test box Mansfield
– The Early Sessions: Book 5 of The Seth Material
– © 2013 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 219 January 3, 1966 9 PM Monday as Scheduled

[... 12 paragraphs ...]

Now. If you will recall our early sessions dealing with value fulfillment, let us now consider what I prefer to call a moment point. This moment point, as you know, refers to any given present instant. If you are thinking in terms of Dunne’s theories, then start out with this moment point as it is seen in time one by self one.

[... 6 paragraphs ...]

Now. These other selves are more freewheeling. There are indeed limitations inherent within their structure, but in all cases any given identity is more than the dimension in which it finds itself. Its limitations may be great, but the limitations are set not by the identity’s nature but by the dimension in which it exists.

(Consider the whole of the next paragraph underlined for emphasis. Jane was by now speaking more rapidly and with much intent and conviction. She used many forceful gestures, although her eyes remained closed.)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

Two of these statements may appear at first glance to contradict themselves, but you shall shortly see that they do not, and you are left for now with a pretty question: for does the self, or identity, then form the perceptive dimension in which it exists, or is it created by the dimension?

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

Now let us begin again.

We start once more with our moment point. For now this moment point which appears within your physical universe is but a small materialization of larger portions of the spacious present. In the dreaming state, when the ego is released from its idea of time as a series of moments, then other portions of the self can travel through these moment points, and you have here a journey through depths that have nothing to do with your (underline your) concept of time or space.

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

Other portions of self one are to some extent aware of these other dimensions. Now you see where we are heading. For now consider what we shall call self A. And we shall say that he is the physical self in the physical universe. He is composed of physical matter, he is composed of psychological matter, a portion of this latter being ego. From your own work you realize however that this individual, or self A, is indeed more than physical matter, even while he exists within the physical dimension.

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

(At break Jane mentioned something that had been on her mind. She was aware of course that Lorraine had brought a test envelope. Jane now wondered whether I would try to be tricky, and perhaps keep Lorraine’s envelope for a later test, while giving her the usual envelope that I had prepared. Jane took it for granted that I had a test envelope ready also. I didn’t commit myself in any way.

(It was now time for the 27th Dr. Instream test. As usual Jane sat with her eyes closed, her left hand to her face, her head down. Her pace was slow at the start, but picked up rather well as the test proceeded. Resume at 10:05.)

Now, give me a moment, please. (Pause.)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

They are rectangular, and fairly deep. (Pause.) He has been working there, I believe, on marking grades, or making out some sort of reports which are finding their way into these boxes. He sits now (at 10:09) at a table like a card table, I believe alone, with a game of some sort before him, or at least with a board such as a checkerboard. (Pause.)

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

(Jane now took a long pause at 10:12.)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

Now do you have a test for me, Joseph?

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

Now please give us a moment.

[... 13 paragraphs ...]

(As stated before Jane was somewhat nervous this evening, resuming sessions and tests after the vacation. As soon as she gave the initial M, in the beginning of the data, she thought of Lorraine’s entity name, Marleno. Jane caught herself at once, she now said, in order to prevent possible distortions growing out of this thought. She said “To hell with it,” to herself, relaxed, and kept on speaking for Seth. She completely cut off her own associations; this ability to discriminate, Seth has told us, is very important, and will grow steadily on Jane’s part.

[... 11 paragraphs ...]

(Jane’s eyes now opened. They were very dark. She lit a cigarette, and as she smoked and talked her eyes began to open frequently.)

Now while this association was his own, it was caused by the image retention carrying over from the first test. I want it clear that two rather than one causes existed for this second box image or impression.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

Now when he does so disconnect his own stream of consciousness in this manner, any correct associations on his part will automatically show themselves in the data through attraction. They will become incorporated with my data in a constructive fashion. This is fairly important, and we shall follow it up by examples when possible. For I will perceive certain types of information that are basic, and when Ruburt’s abilities, his own abilities as apart from mine, are fully developed, then he will be able to add certain specifics that have direct personal application.

[... 9 paragraphs ...]

Now. I am in fine form. Ruburt is doing well. I realize that the hour has grown late in your time one, so I shall leave it to you as to whether or not I continue a most interesting discussion this evening. You may do as you think best.

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

When we have time I have some remarks, or will have, concerning your Miss Callahan; and also some remarks concerning Ruburt’s business matters. For now however I wish you good evening.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(End at 11:09. Jane was very well dissociated, she said, even though her eyes had been open at times. She said Seth could have continued indefinitely; Seth had her in a “low” state that seemed to require hardly any of her own energy, Jane said. She now felt very good. The dryness had left her throat; she thought it the result of nervousness at resuming the sessions.

[... 4 paragraphs ...]

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