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(The carpenter was to see our landlord last week, and let us know about our kitchen enlargement by last Saturday. We have received no word about their meeting, although it is possible a decision was made Saturday.

(Jane said at 8 PM this evening that she did not mind if we had an envelope test. I remarked that it was going to be a busy session, what with the material on the Gallaghers and Dr. Instream, a possible envelope test, and the chance that Seth might discuss two very long, vivid, and complicated dreams Jane had while taking a short nap last Friday morning. See Jane’s account in Volume 4, on pages 336-38. She believes that at least one of these dreams is a therapeutic dream, resulting from suggestions she gave herself following Seth’s material on therapeutic dreams in the last session.

(A development that may be of interest is that I had a strong sneezing spell just before this evening’s session. It came upon me abruptly at about 8:45, while Jane was reading to me her account of the two dreams in question. For some reason the sneezing made me quite angry and impatient, briefly, and I asked Jane to hold up in her reading. For reasons I was not aware of, I nevertheless felt the sneezing was related to the dreams.

(The session was held in our back room. Jane spoke while sitting down and with her eyes closed. Her pace was a little slow in the beginning but soon picked up speed. Her voice was average.)

Indeed, Ruburt is correct in one respect at least, for the first dream, concerning the voices, was meant to be a therapeutic dream. However his own doubts changed the action within the dream, and he reacted to his doubts and ignored the earlier portion of the dream entirely.

There were four voices, all male. Three of these were the voices of personalities who no longer exist within the physical system, but which were closely allied with Ruburt in past lives. The fourth voice was my own. This was an attempt to build his confidence, and to show him how clearly reception can be if his abilities are fully utilized.

Here however there is a drastic change, for the above portions of the experience were indeed no dream, but real experience, occurring while he was in a dissociated state.

The experience however shocked him, hence the shock later on when he turns this into a dream. The experience was to have been remembered however as a dream. He was not to have recalled its true nature, and it was hoped that he would elaborate the experience into a dream which would be composed of the constructive elements which the experience had given him.

Instead the experience frightened him, although only momentarily, for upon immediately awakening his mood was one of joy, and the earlier fear was forgotten. When he heard the voices, rather than becoming confident, he began to rise up to more shallow layers, and the ego ruled the dream sequence that followed.

(Here, Jane reached out in front of her as though turning off an invisible radio. Her eyes were closed. Her pace however was now quite fast, her voice stronger, and she was quite restless. She changed her position, to lean forward with her elbows on her knees, her head down.)

This realization made the following dream, the second dream, possible. But the following dream would not have been possible without the first. The second dream is a dream of expansion. We will discuss it from two levels. The most meaningful level was one in which the many rooms represented psychic areas of development, endless possibilities that continually opened; but possibilities which were based on previous life experiences, and there are many aspects of reincarnational data in this dream, all reinforcing the healthy aspects of Ruburt’s personality.

I suggest a short break. And I will by all means mention your own reaction, which was based on a wrong assumption.

(Break at 9:30. Jane had been dissociated as usual. Her eyes had remained closed. Her voice had strengthened a bit during the delivery, and her pace had become so fast that my hand was already cramped. Jane said she felt that no more than ten minutes had passed.

(We were now due for the material on the Gallaghers in Puerto Rico. During break I jokingly began to speak aloud my own impressions of what Peg and Bill were doing at the moment. I rattled off a string of impressions about them sitting in a long narrow restaurant, and described their surroundings in some detail, including such things as wall lamps, etc. The odd part about this is that I seemed to see pictures of what I was describing, while my eyes were open.

(Jane’s pace now slowed a great deal. As when giving the material for Dr. Instream, she sat with her eyes closed and her head down, usually with her hands to her eyes. Her voice was quiet. She used many pauses, a few of which are indicated. I will also indicate where I used a phonetic version of Jane’s utterances, on two occasions. Resume at 9:40.)

Give us a moment again, and we will try to pick them up now. (Pause at 9:50. Jane, her eyes still closed, wagged a finger at me.) Ruburt was correct, Joseph. You should not have given your impressions.

(Break at 10:00. Jane was well dissociated, she said—much more so than usual. Her eyes had remained closed, her voice quiet. Again, she had the impression that time had passed quickly.

(While giving the above data Jane had no visual material to accompany it, and said she was just as glad. She took this lack of imagery to mean that her own feelings and ideas were bypassed; she felt free of concern about the accuracy of the material, and thought it might be better for this.

(When she began speaking again, Jane’s pace was slow, her voice quiet. As before, she sat with her eyes closed, her head down and her hands to her eyes. Resume at 10:09.)

(I had made a noise turning a page in the notebook. Jane took a long pause at 10:10. Because it was a warm night we had a window open. Abruptly I became conscious of traffic noise, and Jane told me later that she did too. This is the 9th Dr. Instream experiment. Each week we send Dr. Instream Seth’s material for him.)

(Break at 10:33. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her eyes had remained closed, her voice quiet. She told me she had no idea that there would be an envelope test.

(Jane particularly remembered the appointment because it is the first she ever made voluntarily. This she calls “a turnabout” from previous habit. The card can be “Part of a missive.” We both saw “something swinging” as the dental drill suspended over the chair. We thought “The number 5” good, since the appointment was for May 5.

(Jane was sure “The color yellow” referred to the fact that she well remembers wearing a new, bright yellow shift while keeping the appointment.

(Jane was sure “death of a dog” referred to the last dental appointment she had had previous to May 5,1965. This would be 3 years ago; Jane said she recalled this vividly because our dog, Mischa, died within two days or so of that long-ago appointment. The appointment itself had also been a painful one.

(Jane had been relaxing on the bed during break, and resumed speaking from there. She lay on her side, her head propped up by one hand. Her glasses were on; because of this I thought her eyes might open eventually. Her pace was good, her voice quiet as she resumed at 10:45.)

Our own test material was only slightly distorted, and quite legitimate.

The appointment was made in the afternoon. The service was a funeral service, hence the connection with flowers, which also reinforced the fifth month.

The appointment was made at five in the afternoon, incidentally.

The automobile was the mother’s automobile, which was parked outside of the Colucci residence the evening you visited. They drove back.

(As soon as Seth said this, I remembered seeing the automobile parked before the Colucci’s house on the evening Jane and I visited there. Since their home is in the country, and not even close to any other house, the car couldn’t be connected to anyone outside the Colucci family. And of course it was not the dentist’s car, which we are familiar with. This is the somewhat complicated sequence of events here: Marie Colucci took the train to her parents’ home in New Jersey, and drove her mother back to Elmira in the parental automobile. When Marie’s father died of a heart attack in NJ, Marie drove her mother back to Jersey in the parental car, then returned to Elmira herself by train.)

There was a very slight connection with your own parents, however, in that Ruburt mentioned the dentist and the trance to them at their latest visit here. And a secondary connection with a car—not close, not a close connection—in which your parents traveled on that occasion.

(“It can wait. I was going to ask you to say something about my sneezing spell.”)

It had to do with the fact that in his dream, the second radio was in your room, and he received a shock when he tried to turn it off.

The sneezing was a panic reaction. Naturally you do not want to hurt Ruburt in any way, and you felt somewhat responsible because in his dream he could not turn off the radio which represented his abilities.

(End at 11:03. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her eyes were open at the end of the session, her voice quiet, and she was smiling. I might add that while Jane was reading her dreams to me just prior to the session, I was only half listening as I got ready to take the notes. But it seems that actually I listened very well.)