“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Seth announced his presence as the four of us sat quietly talking, at approximately 11:45 PM. Bill and Peggy share the cost of a cottage on Seneca Lake with other members of Peggy’s family, and had been taking steps to sell the cottage this fall. Bill dislikes seeing it go, since he uses it as a base for his skin-diving expeditions in the lake, which is one of New York State’s famous Finger Lakes.

(The first point I would like to make is that Seth told us enough of the clairvoyant material involving Dr. Instream is valid; this will keep up the doctor’s interest. The second point concerns the main subject matter of the session, which evolved from a question I asked Seth about the Gallagher’s cottage on Seneca Lake. Bill was inspired to ask Seth whether it would be possible to locate Indian artifacts on the lake bottom; he had long been curious about this.

(By this, Bill meant American Indian artifacts, and had in mind stone tools, etc. Seth surprised us by telling us this was quite possible. Then he added that in a certain location could be found bronze artifacts in the lake. There was much here, including some generalized locations and descriptions, that is not recorded. Suffice it to say that Seth made no error in using the word bronze. He also said these artifacts would date from either the 7th century, or the 17th century.

(A break came at about 12:45. During it, Bill said he thought the information from Seth was sure to be pretty fragmented. Either that, or such artifacts were not Indian at all. Bill knows something of local history. He told us the 7th century reference would be correct if the Vikings were to be involved, since, he said, this date in history finds Viking evidence in the Great Lakes to the west. As far as he knew, there is no record of Viking activity in this part of the northeast, in New York State.

(Bill also said the 17th century date could be correct if bronze artifacts were shown to be related to the Jesuit missionaries, who were known to be in this section of the country then. Bill has done extensive skin diving in Seneca Lake. Jane and I had heard him mention this rather casually, but knew nothing of the extent of his explorations or deep interest. We had not discussed the subject. Nor has either of us ever done any skin diving.

(As she talked, Jane used many gestures. She seemed to try to supplement her verbal descriptions by outlining objects with her hands, as though she was seeing things somewhat difficult to put into words specifically enough. This applied particularly when she was trying to voice descriptions of the geography of the lake bottom. Her pace was comfortably fast.)

(Break at 1:15. Jane was well dissociated, she said. Her voice had remained quiet, her pace had been good. Bill Gallagher was quite excited. Both he and Peggy verified Seth’s information about the changes in silting on the lake bottom; Jane was highly gratified to learn that Seth was correct. As far as I know neither Jane or I have come across such specific information; certainly we have never discussed it with the Gallaghers.

(Bill now told us that he waits until certain times of the year, when the silt clears up, to go diving. He knows that the formation of nitrogen is somehow related to the dying of algae in the lake, but could not explain it exactly to us.

There is also a spot, and a very important one, that I cannot locate except for the moon position. The rays of the moon in May and/or October, 13 to 15, fall directly above a position in which important artifacts can be found, for there are many artifacts buried within the lake.

This one to which I refer has definitely to do with the 17th century. It is to be found directly beneath the moon’s rays at a time when Venus is in the ascendancy, and forms on the surface of the lake an acute angle.

(Bill told us that later today, Sunday, while at the lake, he would try to check upon some locations as defined rather poorly by Seth. Both Jane and I urged caution. The turn the material took this evening surprised us. We didn’t know what to make of gold chests, Venus in the ascendancy, etc.