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(This evening Jane and I had supper with Marian and Jimmy Spaziani. Jimmy is our landlord. We were back home from their place in Pine City, five miles distant, by 8:40. Jane had a “slight” feeling that someone would attend the session, yet she was not sure the feeling was legitimate. She could not say why she felt that way, being unable to determine at least yet when such feelings are legitimate. As it developed, we had no witnesses.

(Jane was not nervous before the session, and had no idea of the material to be dealt with. Once again she began without her glasses. Her eyes were dark, her voice normal, her pacing regular. Her rate of delivery was somewhat slow, with pauses.)

(In line with the above material, it might be noted that Seth had cautioned Jane to go easy with her “ecstasy” experiments in the 54th session, May 18, 1964. She had achieved this ecstatic state, as she described it, several times by that date. She had also been concerned as to how far to go along with this experience while she was alone in the house. Seth stated that he did not realize Jane would achieve this focusing of inner energy so early in her studies with psychological time, and furthermore said that it could have unpleasant effects if it was unwittingly directed toward someone else. Nor was this possibility “shades of witchcraft. Any energy can be used for almost any purpose.”

There are many specifics to be filled in on past material, simply because at the time you did not have the background for fullest comprehension. This is why, for example, I did not go into the molecular structure of the dream world. It differs from the material world with which you are familiar in many instances, and yet the material dealing with the nature of matter was a necessary prerequisite.

(Break at 9:28. Jane was dissociated as usual. After a slow beginning she delivered the bulk of the above material at a steady, comfortable rate. She resumed in the same manner at 9:33.)

(Jane now began to take some rather lengthy pauses as she delivered this more personal material. I did not feel that she was worrying about its accuracy particularly, merely that such information is evidently more carefully presented by Seth lest it arouse such outer ego fears; hence it “comes out” at a slower rate. See page 88 for information on the thermostat cover.)

It was dumped either someplace on his own property or in a public dumping area, whichever area is by a hill, and it is still there. Not destroyed, but partially damaged. I trust this will satisfy him.

There were two occasions. One when he took the thermostat, threw it by mistake into the Jeep, where it lay forgotten and hidden; and another occasion three weeks later when it was dumped. I believe both occasions last spring, early in spring.

(Jimmy is obviously proud of this similarity between J.J. and himself. This evening he showed Jane and I a family photograph taken when he was about J.J.’s age, and of course the physical similarity was even then unmistakable. This old family photograph, incidentally, included Jimmy’s father, whom Jane and I had not met, and who is referred to in the following session material.)

(I might also add here that in the short time since the bed was changed in position, so that its head points north, Jane has lost the persistent soreness of the ribs on her left side. See the note on page 87.)

(Break at 10:05. Jane was dissociated as usual. I did remember Seth’s previous answer concerning the top question above, and it was to the effect that his experience with Jane and I is his first, at least on this plane. I was hoping he would elaborate on the experience. I regret that I am unable to give the reader a page number for the previous answer. I am making my own version of an index for the material, and have not yet covered that particular session.

(His mother’s home was dark, of course, and not wanting to disturb her merely to leave the tomatoes, Jimmy left them on the back porch. His father had died a few months ago, and while he stood in the backyard, a place he knew and had loved since childhood, Jimmy thought to himself: “Now, if I could see my father’s apparition, then I could tell Ma, and she’d feel a lot better,” or words to that effect. Jimmy waited beside the dark and quiet house, staring out into the backyard, but he saw and heard nothing unusual. He is well acquainted with the literature on psychic phenomena.

(He estimates that this little episode took place at about 1:20 AM. Getting back into his Jeep, he drove back to the club, a few blocks away. He arrived there at about 1:30. Just as he entered the kitchen the telephone rang. It was his wife Marian, in a state of high agitation. Marian then described to Jimmy a most vivid and startling experience she had just undergone.

(Being tired, she had gone to bed a little after midnight, instead of waiting up for Jimmy as she usually did. She fell asleep immediately. Unaware of the passage of time, she then was awakened out of a sound sleep, not dreaming either, by a thunderously loud voice which shouted to her or at her: “Good night!” Marian told us this was so real to her, so loud and unmistakable, filling the entire room as with thunder, that she sat bolt upright in bed, fully awake and quite frightened. She had not been having a nightmare, or even dreaming. It so upset her that she immediately went to the telephone to call her husband. That is, she took a short while to collect herself, then put in the call. The voice was that of Jimmy’s dead father; Marian said she recognized it unmistakably.

Now. The experience involving your landlord, his wife and his deceased father, was a legitimate one; but one that I should like to use as an example for a rather long discussion of questions directly resulting from some recent sessions. That is, the question as to the survival of the physical image after the point of so-called death, and the lingering about the physical plane of portions of the personality.

(This reference to J.J., Jimmy’s youngest son, reminds Jane and me that Jimmy has often mentioned to us that as soon as he began to talk, J.J. started to tell his father about the “playmates” who kept him company through the day. At the time Jimmy was quite intrigued because the only playmates J.J. had were his older brothers and sisters, and these were not the people he was describing. Jimmy states that J.J. related such stories to him up until he was about four years old. J.J. is now six.)

(End at 10:42. Jane was dissociated as usual. She was now quite tired, as she had been at the end of the last session.

(I then saw something, an item that I now forget. I heard someone say, “That’s Lizzie’s. She was the one who used to buy them.” The voice was a mental one.

(Now, at 1:20 PM, Rob tells me: This morning a newly married couple visited him at the office. They were there from about 11:25 until noon. There was talk and kidding about marriage, etc. But he does not recall any specific mention of a marriage license as such.)

(October 27, Tuesday, 11:45: Upon retiring, I had a definite and durable feeling of stretching in my legs, as though a force was pulling at my feet, as though with hands. At the same time, my familiar old thrilling sensation flooded over me quite strongly.

(It may be coincidence, but upon checking my back records I find that the last psychological time experiment I had listed, for September 9, was identical to the one above. See my notes on this on page 1, the 86th session.

(In between these two sightings I saw a middle-aged man in rolled-up white shirt sleeves, sitting at a kitchen-type table and staring to my right. His profile was to me. He had a definite cauliflower ear. His complexion was ruddy, his hair had a reddish tinge. He did not move. He reminded me somewhat of Bill Macdonnel's father, but it was not him. I also recall a small pencil drawing Bill has done of his father in a similar position, but from a full-face angle.)