“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

The predicament will, indeed, involve the man with whom she is presently connected, and will have to do with a renewed dependence upon those drugs which he had been so dependent upon at one time. The local situation would have been disastrous, culminating in her suicide. This will not occur now.

The local situation would have involved five people, two of which are known to you. The public humiliation would have been too much for her. The man will still become involved, not in the location to which they will be presently situated, but in another within a period of a year. That is, he will be involved but not discovered. She will know, however, that he has been taking the drugs again but will not betray him.

A V comes to mind. Whether this is the person directly involved, or a person causing the difficulty I do not know. Ruburt is so preciously guarding me, and so afraid that what I say may not prove true at all, that he does a beautiful job of blocking me when he gets the chance.

A pun. It is as you know an extremely difficult topic because of the limits of your own conceptions. Philip may not be able to follow me too well, since he has not heard, nor read, any previous discussions on matter. But this again will not matter.

He will read it all in time. As I told you, matter is created constantly. No object is composed of the same matter from one day to the next. Matter is caused by pulsations of energy, taking a formal pattern that is already formed by means of the consciousness inherent in the energy itself.

(Break at 9:27. Jane was dissociated as usual. John Bradley set to work drawing a map of his neighborhood in Williamsport. On this map he indicated the location of each house, and it developed that there were two families with two children who lived three doors from him. Of these two families John said that the name of one of them, Snyder, immediately popped into his mind as Seth gave the pertinent material. A copy of John’s map will be found at the end of this session.

My connection with you is obvious from our previous discussions. Ruburt and I were once intimately connected, being offshoots so to speak of the same entity. We developed according to our own abilities. I am not his subconscious nor is he mine.

I find his subconscious an easy point for entry. He has always been independent, impatient and stubborn. If he were not, I could speak through him in a much clearer voice. Nevertheless I would not enjoy it as well.

Now, may I please return to our discussion of matter, since the matter matters so strongly. Almost every child suspects that at one time or another when his eyes are closed his immediate surroundings have disappeared. He supposes that when he does not see a chair the chair does not exist; and my dear friends, the boy in this case is smarter than the man.

When his senses, his outer senses, do not perceive a physical object in his self-perspective (and hyphenate that please), in his self-perspective, the object simply does not exist. If the object is touched and not seen or otherwise perceived, then in his self-perspective it exists only in the realm of his sensual perception of it. It does not exist to be seen if he does not see it. If his father, for example, sees the chair that the boy does not see, then the object exists as a thing to be seen in the father’s self-perspective. Each individual himself creates a portion or a whole physical object. Many people appear to see an object, but the object that they see is not the same object, but only approximates an object.

I am going to give you another short session. Incidentally Joseph, you were correct: I have been teaching Ruburt to feel concepts, rather than delivering them to him word by word, even though that is how he must deliver them to you.

I have been giving you the same sort of training. However this takes more out of Ruburt, since he must then, with my help, translate direct experience-concepts into a succession of meaningful words.

(John Bradley requested a copy of the material pertaining to him. He left for his motel, taking with him a carbon of Volume 2 of the Seth Material for copying. It seems possible that when John next attends a session he will be accompanied by his lawyer friend from Williamsport, PA.

(Then again, later yet, I heard myself asking: “What’s your name, little girl?” This time a voice, it could have been my own, answered from offstage to my right: “I’m Bonnie Lou Ryerson.” “How old are you?” I asked. The same voice answered: “I’m seven years old.” I did not see anything this time. There was more, but I believe that by this time I was coming out of the desired state and was consciously connecting the name Ryerson with a local teacher by that name whom Jane sees occasionally in connection with the art gallery where she works. I do not know him, or whether he has children.

(It might be added that the next day as Jane and I were leaving the house we met Leonard Yaudes, our neighbor across the hall. Leonard knows Mr. Ryerson, and said that he did have a daughter, who was he thought possibly about seventeen. Her name, Leonard speculated, not knowing Mr. Ryerson too well, was Julie or Kathy, or something like that. Jane and I have not checked further. I remember that upon obtaining the name while in the trance state, I became very anxious that I remember it to write down later. Ironically, upon awakening I discovered that at least momentarily I had forgotten it; but as soon as I began writing this account the name Bonnie Lou came to mind, and I feel that it is correct.