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ECS4 ESP Class Session, May 25, 1971 19/56 (34%) Ron Brady evil pope Theodore
– The Early Class Sessions: Book 4 Sessions 5/25/71 to 1/25/72
– © 2010 Laurel Davies-Butts
– ESP Class Session, May 25, 1971 Tuesday

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

([Ron L:] “Is it ever justified to do evil for the sake of good?”)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

([Ron:] “In other words, in this reality we are faced with decisions in this context, is it true that our decisions can be only constructive and good or destructive and evil?”)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

([Ron:] “Yes, but I don’t necessarily agree with the logic of your answers.”)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

([Ron. :] “Well, I have a question that I know I’m going to form after I read the script, and that is that your response was that my question was only meaningful in the terms that I use. So for you, how do you conceive of good and evil in your own reality?”)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

([Ron:] “Well, Hitler could have used that justification for wiping out 9 million Jews.”)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

([Ron:] “Well then I have to disagree with you. I think that even in the way we look at it now that there is destruction, which is evil...”)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

([Ron:] “Is there such a thing as a moral decision for someone who exists in the next plane of existence?”)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

([Ron:] “What system of values do you use to choose in your moral decisions?”)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(Ron:] “In your words, it would be whatever is the most creative in terms of what you want to do.”)

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

([Ron:] “I feel like I’ve made contact with you very well.”)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

([Ron:] “I don’t necessarily deal with physical entities the same way I’m dealing with you right now.”)

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

(To Ron) I egg—listen to me—I egg you on. It is good for you and good for the class and very good for this one over here (Florence), because you ask questions that she is already thinking of, and for some reason she has suddenly grown timid about her questions. Now, continue.

([Ron:] “I was just saying that no evil can be justified on the basis of the greater good.”

[... 1 paragraph ...]

([Ron:] “Are there instances in which a spirit from another reality would intervene in this reality, and we would call that a destructive act, but the spirit would say it was creative?”)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

([Ron:] “There are no entities intervening?”)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(Ron:] “But in the terms that we are all spirits acting out our own inner drama, the term spirit has some meaning?”)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(During break, Ron got into a discussion with Brady about good and evil and forces involved.)

[... 9 paragraphs ...]

(To Ron) Now, if you would pay attention, you could wake up in a dream and understand me more clearly.

(To group.) And all of you attend the classes of which you frequently remember your experiences, and I expect even more frequent memory on your part as time goes by. A particularly important class will be held later this evening. And I even expect you (Ron) to remember the dream.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

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