“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

[...] Background: Last PM Seth gave a session for me and this dream seems to be in direct response to it. [...]

1. I don’t have to be embarrassed that Seth gives so many sessions for me; plenty of people go to doctors or therapists all their lives and this is at a much more complex level. [...]

2. To consider: my feelings that people come here to see Seth, rather than me. [...]

3. To consider: my worries when Seth was dictating Events about the effect of his ideas on medicine and impulses on others. [...]

(Reading the 3rd session, of December 6/63, John noticed that Frank Watts, Jane and I had all lived together in Mesopotamia in the 4th century B.C. In that life I was a woman, Frank Watts was my sister, and Jane was a brother to us, and named Seth. [...] Seth did not announce his presence until the 4th session. Now John wondered if the Seth mentioned in the 3rd session, page 18, was the same Seth who is now giving us the material.

(As soon as Seth began to talk about Miss Callahan, I felt a chill. Then I was swept from head to foot by my familiar thrilling sensation, which Seth has called the feeling of sound. [...]

Ruburt was myself, Seth, many centuries ago, but he grew, evolved and expanded in terms of a particular, personal set of value fulfillments. He is now an actual gestalt, a personality that was one of the probable personalities into which Seth could grow. [...]

[...] Ruburt is now the result of the Seth that I once was, for I have changed since then. Ruburt represents, and is, a personality formed by that Seth which was myself, by focusing upon and using a peculiar set of attributes and abilities. [...]

(Drawing in the air, Seth-Jane finished the list, then told me that I was to place a second one, with its own heading, opposite the first. [...]

[...] I felt oddly confused, since I wasn’t sure yet of what Seth was up to.)

[...] Note that Seth would give a complete list under one heading, then match its components item by item with their opposites — no small feat, I would say, considering the number of issues involved. [...]

(“Thank you, Seth. [...]

(Here in the last paragraph, then, is a pertinent clue, and one that Jane arrived at without asking Seth: She’s experienced such translation challenges often since beginning “Unknown” Reality — hence her talk before many of these sessions [from the 679th on] about attaining that “certain clear focus,” or “the one clearest place in consciousness,” before she began speaking for Seth.

“Toward the end of the material (in the second statement) I briefly thought the Seth level might be involved, but the wording didn’t come through as automatically and smoothly as it does with Seth, and I didn’t feel his … personality. [...]

(As she often has following recent sessions, after the 685th session Jane discovered herself delivering Seth material in the sleep state. [...]

[...] Since the first session on Seth’s book (the 679th) was held — and before we knew it was a book — I’ve been getting material on it in my sleep after each session. [...]

(That statement, in fact, plus her desire for material from Seth on a question of her own, made her wonder whether we’d even receive any book dictation tonight. Then, no sooner had we sat for the session than Jane asked me to write down what she was about to say, since she had the material available whether or not Seth got to it: “A new part, or chapter heading: ‘People Who Are Afraid of Themselves. Controlled Environments, and Positive and Negative Mass Behavior.’” I told her I thought Seth would not only have plenty of time to cover our respective questions, but would come through with some book work too, and this was the case.

[...] I remarked tonight that it would be nice if Seth would discuss the subject, and Jane replied that she thought he’d do so.

(We’re presenting his material for me because it has good general application: If Seth deals with my own painted images without even mentioning the words reincarnation or counterparts, still he does reveal how such “residents of the mind” make up part of each person’s innate knowledge of his or her own greater — or larger — self.

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

(Today Jane heard from Tam that Prentice-Hall had signed a contract with a Dutch publisher for a translation of Seth Speaks into that language. [...] Tam told Jane that at our request he’d checked with John Nelson, who in turn had checked the contract with the Swiss publisher, to the effect that the German-language translation of Seth Speaks is definitely not to be cut, as that particular publisher had wanted to do a couple of years ago. So the two foreign-language editions of that book are certainly good news —the kind that Seth wants Jane to list daily, as he suggested she do. [...]

[...] For my part, although I believe Seth’s contention that there are basically no accidents, I was still torn between understanding of that premise, and outrage that a young drunk could wreak such havoc on a seemingly innocent family of seven people. [...] I thought it a classic example that could be explained in Seth’s terms, though—the type of new information that at least could try to make sense out of such seemingly random happenings that we see as so tragic. In that way, then, my discussion of the event touched upon pretty basic premises of the Seth material.

(Today I mentioned to Jane that I’d like Seth to discuss any beliefs she might still have that might reinforce feelings that it still wasn’t safe to recover fully. [...] She felt better as the day passed, though, which seems to back up Seth’s contention that her periods of acute discomfort are a good deal shorter these days, and not as intense. [...]

[...] Another approach would be half and half: First the family story in usual terms; then that same family story studied with Seth’s ideas in mind. [...] I think that Seth’s insights into the accident discussed this evening are a good capsule case in point, and much more penetrating than could be arrived at in usual terms.

(It will be recalled also that in the 63rd session, Seth gave a date of Aug. [...] Seth did not specify the meaning of this latest date for her, and Jane and I saw Miss Callahan the day after our return from vacation, looking quite well. [...]

[...] 18, while we were dancing at the Driftwood Lounge at York Beach, which is the hotel bar where we saw our projected fragments, described by Seth in the 9th session [in Volume 1], page 43.

(It will be recalled that in the 63rd session, June 17, 1964, page 159, Seth gave a date of today, Aug. [...]

[...] I did not base my decision concerning working hours on the Seth material, although the information Jane and I have received on expectations played a part; it has done much to increase our confidence in various fields of endeavor other than our arts.

(This afternoon Jane received a royalty check from Prentice-Hall for $819.00, covering sales to June 30 of The Seth Material, hard and soft cover, and the first copies of Seth Speaks. [...]

[...] As we sat talking in Jane’s studio she eventually said that Seth was around. The notebook was handy, so I told her to go ahead if she wanted to let Seth come through. [...]

(“Thank you Seth.”)

[...] Thank you, Seth.”)

[...] I call myself Seth. [...]

[...] After Jane and I had been discussing whether to ask Seth about people other than ourselves.)

(“Seth, why does such a thing happen to an entity?”)

(The following came after I had remarked half-jokingly that humility seemed to be Seth’s favorite word.)

[...] Thus the visual idea of a painting and a photo are closely related, to Seth. Some distinction is made, either by Seth or Jane, in that a photo is not definitely named as the object. [...]

[...] Seth’s answer, above, contributed to the confusion, and is in error. [...] It concerns a discussion by Seth of the envelope experiments. [...]

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

(Seth helps out with a few connections after break, but in the meantime Jane and I had made our own. [...]

[...] Sharon Poley walked in to take Jane’s temperature [98 degrees]; she came in without knocking while Jane was speaking for Seth in a voice deeper and stronger than her regular voice. Jane spoke Seth’s last few words while Sharon was at the foot of the bed, then broke off as soon as she saw Sharon. [...]

[...] I told the kids that they could lose their shirts in their proposed Seth Production Company, just so they would know various possibilities—and probabilities.)

[...] At 3:35 Jane told me to get my paper and pen ready in case Seth came through.)

[...] Seth.”)

[...] Yet I felt that I was on to something good, and asked Jane pretty definitely to see that Seth discussed the subject tonight. [...] Somehow we got totally off that subject when Seth went into the interesting topic of PKMB, or psychokinetic metal bending. [...]

[...] Although Jane enjoys the sessions, as Seth himself said in the session for February 1, 1981 She is still somewhat afraid of what he will produce in the future—new theories and ideas that either might or will place her in further confrontation with the major tenets of our ordinary world—meaning science, religion, medicine, history, whatever. She fears then, Seth going too far as an expression of her creative and spontaneous self. [...]

(I should add, too, that this latest insight ties in well with the paragraph of Seth’s that I’ve copied from the deleted session for January 28, 1981, to add to my list of quotations from these recent private sessions: Seth discussed Jane’s fear of letting go —not because she is afraid of relaxing per se, but because she fears she will go too far. [...]

[...] “I don’t feel Seth around and I don’t feel like a session,” she said, “but I guess I’d better....” [...] “What I think would happen if Seth were free to do anything he wanted to, would be great,” I said. [...]

(Before the session tonight I said I was curious about Seth’s interpretation of my dream of October 9. This will be given in the appropriate place in the text. Jane said that Seth was going to talk about the electromagnetic units discussed in the last session—she could “feel him buzzing around.”)

[...] See the 503rd session for September 24 for Seth’s comments re Jane’s relief at Prentice-Hall’s approval, through Tam Mossman, of Jane’s book on the Seth material. [...]

(Jane has been so busy finishing up the manuscript of her book on the Seth material, for Prentice-Hall, that we haven’t had a session since September 29.

(“Good evening, Seth”)

[...] In one session, Seth discusses Jung’s concept of the unconscious. [...] These discussions show the current direction the Seth Material is taking as it constantly unfolds.

(I made a quick mental count of the planets we now know to be in our solar system, for a total of nine, the same total given by Seth. Naturally, Seth’s data gave rise to many questions, but tonight wouldn’t see them answered.)

In the foregoing chapters, I have taken excerpts from many sessions in order to present Seth’s views on various topics. [...]

[...] This presentation shows Seth’s way of weaving one subject through another as he inserts new discussions and information while building on past sessions, and points up his method of using Rob’s and my own daily experiences as a launching pad for his own material.

(A note: I must write that not only was I surprised that Seth opened the session with an analysis of the dream, but that I was even more surprised with the generous connotations he ascribed to it: I may love my fellow man, but often times feel that that feeling is compromised by events in our world, even though I fully acknowledge my own part in helping create that world in the most intimate detail. Seth’s interpretation of my feelings may be too generous. [...]

(At 3:50 PM Jane told me that she’d just received from Seth a definition of cults. [...]

(In connection with that material, Jane wrote a paper on March 26, in which she briefly outlined the probable direction Seth would be taking in Mass Reality.

(While we waited for Seth to come through I read to Jane a couple of pages of rather disorganized material and notes I’d been working on this afternoon and evening. [...]

[...] He came across The Seth Material, saw similarities in Jane’s and his experiences, and came here to see if she or Seth could explain the phenomenon. There are points of correlation, of course, only Jane is presented not with just a voice but with an entire personality, Seth, who then writes books while she is in an altered state of consciousness. So she and Dick were highly interested in what Seth would say.

(Note that Seth endorsed Jane’s theory of Aspects. [...] In it she will explore — among other things — the nature, validity, and sources of such personalities as Seth, and the “intrusion” of intuitional or revelatory material. [...]

[...] Dick had also visited us in late August, when Seth had Chapter One of this book under way.

(Earlier this evening Jane had sung quite spontaneously in Sumari, but her manner became more deliberate now as she began speaking for Seth.)

(Just before tonight’s session I told Jane I hoped Seth would clear this matter up. [...] The 133rd session also contains a list of previous sessions in which Seth has dealt with Miss Callahan to varying degrees. [...] F. Watts has been dead perhaps twenty years, and is one of the personalities making up the Seth entity.

(Sonja bought a painting from me on November 18, 1964, and is mentioned by Seth in the 108th session of that date. Louis witnessed the 89th session, held in Rochester, NY, and was also discussed by Seth in the 90th session. [...] Thus Jim and Louis were the two neutral visitors referred to by Seth.

[...] While visiting us on the second day of my illness, John said that events transpiring within the drug firm he represents, Searle, appear to bear out predictions made by Seth some time ago. Seth had mentioned a time limit of several years for some of these predictions to work themselves out, and counseled patience on John’s part. [...]

(Jane has not been experimenting with psychological time since Seth suggested she stop at the time of her prolonged trance state of March 15.

(We haven’t talked a great deal about the probable ramifications inherent in the whole house episode — rather, we expected such concepts to operate if the Seth material has any validity. [...] Neither of us believes in chance or coincidence in usual terms, for instance — nor have we since Seth began discussing the elements behind such qualities some years ago. [...]

[...] We haven’t asked Seth what to do, and do not plan to. There are more “coincidences” involved than those Seth described tonight, none of them consciously known to Jane and me before the Sayre adventure: Mr. Markle is in a nursing home but a few miles from where we live in Elmira, and my mother spent her last days in a similar home less than 15 miles away; one of Mr. Markle’s children lives in Elmira, and is connected with a store Jane and I have visited; Mr. Johnson, of the real estate couple that conducted us about in Sayre, did sign painting and truck lettering as a younger man, as I did; he and I had several mutual acquaintances in Sayre, among them an older artist of some reputation — and now deceased — that we had known in our high school days; and so forth.

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

(I had to laugh a bit, for Seth’s description of my mother’s thinking processes was so very characteristic of her.)

Some of our readers, sending us recent books and copies of articles written by scientists working on these subjects, have noted that it must be nice for Jane and me to have concepts that Seth has been discussing for years “corroborated” by the establishment (often we already had the material on file, by the way). But once again irony enters in on my part, for I’m afraid our answer is that in general science isn’t even aware of the existence of the Seth material, notwithstanding the letters of approval and/or encouragement we receive from individual scientists, representing a variety of disciplines. [...] As I wrote to a fan just last week: “No matter what he or she may think of it personally, no reputable scientist is going to publicly espouse a belief in the Seth material. [...]

(I’ll add that both Seth and quantum theory predict the spontaneous creation of particles of matter out of or in “empty” space—events that, it seems to me, go against some of the laws of conservation. [...] Seth says this spontaneous creation happens all of the time through the actions of consciousness. [...]

Some day, for our own amusement—but hardly with the idea of convincing others, let alone influential scientists—I’ll ask Seth to comment upon whatever connections may exist between his ideas and those embedded in quantum mechanics. [...] I think that Jane has little (if any) interest in whether any connections might exist between the Seth material and the mathematical theory of quantum mechanics. [...]

I also think that if asked Seth would point out that since the concept of quantum mechanics is based upon the idea that everything we “know”—matter, energy, our sensual information—is made up of quanta, or the interactions of insubstantial fields that in turn, and quite paradoxically, produce very active subatomic packets or particles, then quantum mechanics is at least analogous with his statements that basically the universe is composed of consciousness itself. But I think that the continuum of consciousness, or All That Is, contains not only the phenomena of quantum mechanics, but also Seth’s nonphysical EE (electromagnetic energy) units, and his CU’s (or units of consciousness). [...]

[...] Seth’s humorous, emphatic ending referred to a passage I had come across in Blavatsky’s book The Secret Doctrine. The passage referred to a biblical Seth, and to a Seth who was an Egyptian god, who ended up as a daemon, etc.)

[...] During break I said I hoped Seth would discuss the episode Jane experienced during the 523rd session for last Monday, April 13, 1970. While speaking for Seth, Jane realized later, she evidently had a brief out-of-body, seeing herself from a position near the bookcase in our living room, as she sat in the rocker delivering session data.

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

(As Seth, Jane held out her arms with them bent at about right angles.)