“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

It is basically as meaningless in essence, to ask this kind of question as it would be to pause in the middle of a dream, and wonder when first the dream location was created: To stand facing a dream landscape and wonder at what point in time the rocks had their origin. For there is a great similarity between the so-called world of dreams and the so-called world of matter, as you should know.

The material of the physical universe is created spontaneously and constantly, even as the dream locations in the dream world are so created; and as it is impossible in terms of time as you know it to set a point of beginning in the dream world, so it is impossible to attempt to do the same as far as the physical universe is concerned.

The barrier, if it may be so called, is not so much in the nature of the two dimensions themselves, but in your own limitations, since presently you are focused mainly in one of these. Until a certain area of psychic development is attained, awareness, or rather direct awareness, is only possible in one dimension at a time, though experience in other dimensions in varying degrees may be received separately.

These projections, from this dimension into others in this manner, again, are not unusual. Projections in terms of reference points appear also in your dimension, and you have as little knowledge or understanding of their true nature, as inhabitants of other dimensions have of your own.

[...] And watch your progress this week, in the dream state. And remember to correlate your dream activities with your waking activities. [...] Your experience is your own, in whichever dimension you have it. [...]

Keep particular track of your dreams. You are working out reconciliations in the dream state involving your reincarnational episodes. Now your class reflects what you are doing, so always look beneath the surface, and examine your class reactions as you examine your dream reactions. All actions are valid—and I do not want to hurt anyone’s feelings—but some dream actions are far more intelligent than some waking ones; and I will close Ruburt’s eyes so that no one knows to whom I am speaking. [...]

(Very loud.) I want you to climb the vowels and syllables of this voice as if they were indeed a ladder, and let them carry you into dimensions that are native to you, dimensions that are yours by right, that are your heritage; (really booming) dimensions of awareness that you carry within you both day and night, beneath the level of your ordinary days. [...]

Now, our regular members will find themselves having more group class dreams, and when you do not have group class dreams, there is a reason for it. [...]

As you dream, and have a dream existence while still involved in the physical dimension, so is the physical dimension a dream within another dimension in which your consciousness is far more acute. And as in your dream you set up situations and work out problems, so you do the same in your physical existence.

[...] Physical reality itself is still a dream within a larger existence, so from that existence you seem to yourself to be dreaming while you are immersed in physical life. Often in physical life then, you are also working out solutions to problems that exist in a quite different manner, and in a completely different context in this other dimension.

Humanity dreams the same dream at once, and you have your mass world. [...] The dreamer dreams and the dreamer within the dream dreams, and sometimes the dreamers are aware of each other. But the dreams are not meaningless, and the actions within them are highly significant. [...]

You do not feel guilty for those you kill in your dreams. You do not feel that your dream existence is useless, hopeless or beyond redemption, and it seldom occurs to you to think of your dream existence in such a manner.

[...] Jane feels subjectively that this refers to the four specific dreams, furnished by four specific people, that she discusses in chapter five of her dream book. These are represented on the object itself by the chapter heading, “Recurring Dreams..?” among others. Movement is especially prominent in the dreams discussed, and in three out of the four can be violent or strong: Flying, swinging, running as fast as one can. The fourth dream concerns driving at an average rate of speed. [...]

(There follows from her dream notebook Jane’s account of one of the dreams she had on Tuesday, May 10,1966: “This whole dream was in images. [...] It was a revelation type dream, except that now I can’t remember anymore about it. [...]

What you call dimensions represent states in which reality is perceived. You perceive reality in three dimensions, and you have a glimpse of reality in a fourth dimension. There are many dimensions however in all directions. [...]

[...] Chapter five of the dream book contains suggested experiments for the reader to try, involving waking and dreaming states and their interchange, etc. On the object itself, the word try is used twice in Jane’s notes, having to do with the reader’s attempt to manipulate dreams. [...]

A portion of you, therefore, is aware of each and every dream encounter and experience. Dreams are no more hallucinatory than your physical life is. Your waking physical self is the dreamer, as far as your dreaming self is concerned: You are the dreamer it sends on its way. Your daily experiences are the dreams that it dreams, so when you look at your dreaming self or consider it, you do so with a highly prejudiced eye, taking it for granted that your “reality” is real, and its reality is illusion.

As your daily endeavors have meaning and purpose, so do your dream adventures, and in these also you attain various goals of your own. [...] The vitality, force, life, and creativity behind your physical existence is generated in this other dimension. In other words, you are in many ways a fleshy projection of your dreaming self.

In sleep and dream states you are involved in the same dimension of existence in which you will have your after-death experiences. [...]

[...] It is very difficult to admit that you are in many ways more effective and creative in the sleep state than the waking state, and somewhat shattering to admit that the dream body can indeed fly, defying both time and space. It is much easier to pretend that all such experiences are symbolic and not literal, to evolve complicated psychological theories, for example, to explain flying dreams.

When, in the dream state, you are focused in a different dimension, then you see you form from these same atoms and molecules the environment in which you will operate. Yet while you dream you cannot find the bed nor chest nor chair, and when you wake you cannot find the room or city or location which was there moments before.

He wants to know in what dimension dream locations have their reality, and indeed he has considered all of the possibilities save the correct one. [...]

The question however, in what dimensions do dream locations exist, was simply based. [...]

[...] He hit upon something, and if he had continued working, then he would not have needed to ask me in what dimension dream locations exist. [...]

[...] Much of your experience in the heroic dimensions occurs in the dream state, and is then somewhat distorted. [...]

You dwell partially in the heroic dimension therefore, to a considerable-enough degree so that you can glimpse its existence. [...] I will also enlarge the frontiers of your dreams. [...]

In one way or another, the more powerful truths or facts of this “higher” dimension were interpreted and set down. [...] (Long pause.) Michelangelo lived, literally again, in the heroic dimension. [...] You can therefore inhabit the heroic dimensions in the most vital of ways while you still live on one level your recognized existence. [...]

(See my probability dream, as I called it, involving Dick on the night of Sunday, October 26, 1975. In the dream I didn’t see Teresa, as I remember it. [...] Nor, in the dream, do I recall learning Teresa was going to give birth, even though I didn’t see her in it. [...]

You do exist therefore in both of these dimensions. [...] Dreams involve as you know several dimensions. The dream state itself is a very loose term, for there are several layers of consciousness within it, and there is no limit to the states of consciousness that can be achieved, ideally speaking.

Some dream locations will be of your own construction. [...] They will belong to other dimensions entirely, and you may blunder into them. You are in a basic manner, you see, outside of your own system when you attempt to bring your waking consciousness into the dream state.

Now I was not dreaming of him, and he was not dreaming of me. I was simply leading him rather gently into new dimensions. [...]

You begin to manipulate the dream state, or rather you begin to manipulate yourself within dream reality, which is something different. [...] In ordinary dreaming, without the awareness of usual waking consciousness, perception of dream reality is limited and instinctive. [...] When you learn to take waking awareness into the dream condition, you are reaching adolescence, so to speak.

I do not intend to number indefinitely, or list, an endless number of dimensions of actuality, though we will go into this later to some small degree. I am much more concerned for now that you understand the dimensions of action as they exist within the dream world, within psychological realities, and within other scopes with which you are yourselves somewhat familiar.

Our material on the fifth dimension seemed almost infinite to you at the time. That is, the fifth dimension appeared infinite in its complexity, but you see that it is but one dimension within an infinite number of dimensions. [...]

[...] Such an emotion may of course be given release through dreams, but this is of limited value to the ego involved, since the ego does not accept the reality of dream existence.

[...] As dreams allow the inner self great freedom, and as in dreams great perspectives of time are available, and great freedom in space, though no space as you know it is involved, so it is possible for the ego itself to achieve the experience of freedom from time and space, if it would only allow itself for a short while to relax the intensity of its objective focus.

We come here also to one of the other causes of the dreaming state, beside those of which we have spoken in the past. [...] Since action of any kind, being composed of inner vitality, must seek materialization, the dreams become the constructions of that dream universe of which, again, we have spoken. [...] The dream once begun continues, and the dream universe itself forms anew other constructions.

[...] Your idea of action as it occurs within dreams comes closer to the real nature of action than does your idea of muscular force. For in dreams the ego makes little attempt to impede action. Though in dreams you see or feel your arm move, your legs run, still the arm and the legs of the physical body may not move.

[...] Any one dimension must result in another dimension, for the action within any given dimension can never complete itself, but will continue.

[...] Imagine then the inner vitality being some cosmic sphere, but a sphere of more dimensions than you can imagine. [...] And each inward action forms a new dimension that must, again, be thrust outward toward utilization.

But thoughts have shapes, as do dreams. I use the word shape for simplicity’s sake, but the electrical universe is composed of dimensions which are perceived by the inner self, for the inner self also has existence within the electrical universe. [...]

Its dimensions are in terms of values and value fulfillments. [...] Each and every thought and dream and experience that any human being has had exists as an individual, distinct electrical impulse of particular, unduplicated intensity. [...]

[...] You see within yourself the various shapes of dreams to a certain extent. You do not see the dream itself, for even here, after giving a dream reality, electrical existence, you must break it down into simpler terms so that you can perceive what you have indeed created.

[...] Change our knife image now into an imaginary rocket ship, so that our dissection involves many more dimensions. [...]

The dream experience is felt directly by the inner self. Dreams have an electric actuality, as I have told you. In this electrical actuality they then exist independently of the dreamer, although he still applies the dream to himself. [...] Therefore, within the electric system, dreams, thoughts and emotions exist as actualities, and in what you may call a tangible form, though not in the form of matter as you are familiar with it.

[...] They exist in more dimensions, they affect worlds of which he is unaware. [...] The same applies for dreams.

Tonight’s material, taken with our last few sessions, should add new dimensions to much of the knowledge that you had previously. I am very pleased that Ruburt is keeping his dream notebook. [...]

[...] Dreams have a definite effect within the physical system. [...] They are not directly experienced by the physical system, but only translations of the original dream experience is felt by the actual physical system.

[...] It cannot be perceived as any one thing, for it is a relationship and a dimension. It can be perceived most directly, and with less distortion, in the dream state. [...] In the dream state the tendency for this vitality to materialize meets with little resistance. [...]

[...] It is a portion of other dimensions. Here again consideration of dreams in terms of action should make this point fairly clear.

[...] A dream involves action. Not only the action within the dream, but the action of dreaming itself.

We shall have to consider, later, color as it appears in dreams, but this is not the time for such a discussion. Identities exist within dreams also, and here the same nature of identities applies, as those given earlier. The laws of action also apply here in the dream reality.

Outward from your skulls, therefore, into a dimension that has no space or time, in your terms. [...] Now you are seated physically in a particular room upon an autumn night and yet these pyramids extend where seasons are not known and where autumn nights are not known and you are traveling on paths between dimensions. [...] Learn to use the mobility of your own consciousness joyfully and follow even further into the pyramid and into, indeed, the light of consciousness and understanding, for it reaches as a pathway between those dimensions, and it is indeed a channel between those dimensions, and it is indeed a channel between your world and other worlds that also exist. [...]

And the others of you will find your dream nights stabilizing. Your dream classes, therefore, will become more clear. The experiment that began as I said is still continuing and some of this will also appear in your dream state. [...]

[...] And when the speakers speak to each of you in the dream state and in your private hours then they do not need words. [...]

[...] Send your consciousness then into those dimensions that are yours by right. [...]

(Seth has discussed dreams to some extent in many sessions; too many to list here. He was discussing nightmares as far back as the 15th session, dream locations in the 44th session among others, the layers of the subconscious and dreams in the 92nd session. For a few examples of the manner in which Seth interprets dreams, see the 85th, 93rd and 94th sessions. See the 151st session for material on dreams, moment points and time, the 162nd for dreams and the electrical field, the 164th for dreams and impeding actions.

Dream dramas are not nebulous theaterlike productions. Their own dimensions, in their way, are every bit as valid as those of waking life. [...] The dream personalities are indeed fragments, projections of the self, all working out various roles, seeking various experiences, searching for solutions and gratifications.

These dream personalities or fragments indeed have their own consciousness. [...] It must complete its nature according to the dimensions in which it exists, and so the dream personalities or fragments continue to exist whether or not you are aware of them.

In this particular context however the dream world will be considered in its relationship to the personality. In many ways the dream universe does operate within this context, and is part of the personality framework. As the personality is changed by any experience or any action, so it is changed by its own dreams. [...]

[...] In the dream state you are much more aware of them, although there is a final process of dreaming that often masks intense psychological and psychic experience, and unfortunately what you usually recall is this final dream version.

[...] All dreams are not of this nature. Some dreams themselves do take place in psychic or mental areas connected with your daily activities, in which case no dressing-up process is necessary. But in the very deep reaches of sleep experience — those, incidentally, not yet touched upon by scientists in so-called dream laboratories — you are in communication with other portions of your own identity, and with the other realities in which they exist.

Now I am obviously such a one in your terms, swimming up through other dimensions of reality and observing a dimension of existence that is yours rather than my own. There are, therefore, channels that exist between all these streams of consciousness, all these symbolic rivers of psychological and psychic experience, and there are journeys that can be made from my dimension as well as yours.

[...] If you do not want to remember a particular dream, you yourself censor the memory on levels quite close to consciousness. Often you can even catch yourself in the act of purposely dropping the memory of a dream. [...]

[...] On June 16 and June 23, Jane’s notebook shows that she had vague, encouraging dreams about writing and publishing and New York City. The dream book was not mentioned specifically in her notebook.

(On July 5, however, Jane had a very vivid dream in which she saw the dream book published in paperback format.

(Jane talked to Don Wollheim of Ace Publications on the phone today, and he requested that she send him her book on dreams. [...]

[...] In a like manner can personality structures be of assistance and be realities to you within your time, although they have long since entered other dimensions.

[...] Your beliefs, cultural background, and to some extent your languages, set up barriers so that this dream dimension seems unreal to you. Even when you catch yourselves in the most vivid of dream adventures, or find yourselves traveling outside of your bodies while dreaming, you still do not give such experiences equal validity with waking ones.

Biologically, you are quite capable of dealing with dreaming and waking reality both, and of forming a far more effective synthesis in that regard. All of your creative impulses arise from that hidden dimension — the very impulses that formed your greatest cities, your technology, and the physical cement that binds your culturally organized world.

It is cast for you so that it bridges the perception of the psyche and the perception of the dreaming self. Dreams serve as dramas, transferring experience from one level of the psyche to another. In certain portions of sleep, your experience reaches into areas of being so vast that the dream is used to translate it for you.

[...] At certain times some behavior has been primarily expressed in the waking state, and sometimes in the dream state. The emphasis is never static, but ever-changing In some periods, then, the normal behavior was “more dreamlike,” while more specific developments occurred in the dream state, which was then the more clear or specified of the two. Men went to sleep to do their work, in other words, and the realm of dreams was considered more real than waking reality. [...]

Dreams are not just psychological events. There is a dimension of reality (an “objective” dimension, if you prefer) in which all dream events happen. [...] We have to learn what root-assumptions govern dream reality. I know that we can on occasion manipulate dream events; my students and I do this frequently. If we follow certain “rules” given to us by Seth, we will get more or less predictable results in the dream state — an indication that an “objective” dream dimension exists quite independently of us or our dreams, a dream dimension in which my dreams and yours have their being.

Third, we were involved in vigorous subjective activity as we began to experiment with Seth’s psy-time regularly and to follow his suggestions concerning dream investigation, recall and utilization. When we began, neither Rob nor I really suspected that there was a separate dream dimension in which dreams happened. Though Seth told us that the experiments in dream recall would automatically make our consciousness more flexible, his real meaning didn’t come through to me until I found myself manipulating dreams and later having out-of-body experiences from the dream state.

Chapters Fourteen to Twenty will show you the value of dream recall and illustrate how dreams may be used to promote health, solve problems and strengthen identity. Besides exploring our own dreams and our dreaming selves, there is also the adventure of discovering the greater dimension in which all dreams take place.

This section of the book will include excerpts from Seth’s manuscripts on the general nature of dream reality, dream investigation and recall and will be followed by a series of chapters on various kinds of dreams captured by Rob, my students and me as we checked out Seth’s theories, as far as we were able. Later, we will journey further into the inner dimension in which dreams take place.

(Last night Jane had several revelatory dreams, but on awakening could remember no details. [...] She definitely wanted Seth to discuss these dreams tonight.)

One form may indeed serve, and then consciousness may project out of it into a new form that is familiar with other dimensions. [...] He was then led by me into a further dimension of reality in which his third form was used. [...]

Particularly when he is in the dream state, so-called. You have had a characteristic distrust of fantasy, you see, that even extended itself into your knowledge of your dreams; and a fear of flinging yourself off from the recognizable. [...]

[...] Ruburt was definitely given information in several projections from the dream state early this morning.