“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

If this were the whole personality this would be no problem. He would avoid success like a plague. He would have been successful long before this. [...]

If the possibility of success had never emerged the problem would never have emerged. [...]

[...] The rich would never attain heaven. [...]

I was enough like his Father Traynor to be safe, and without me his psychic abilities would not have matured at all. [...]

[...] I would no more be a dull island of only sand and palms, or a neurotic landscape of burning lava, any more than I would be a snail. [...]

[...] You gambled above all that your instincts would lead you in the proper direction, and that you would “win out” despite the “odds” as you understood them.²

[...] I would like a still more spectacular display. [...]

[...] The spirit of Island One realizes that it would find the old conditions quite boring now, and the new alterations fill it with pleasing excitement and challenge. [...]

[...] You cannot say that nature is good, but spawned man, which is a cancer upon it, for nature would have better sense. You cannot say, either, that Nature — with a capital N — will destroy man if he offends her, or that Nature — with a capital N — has little use for its own species, but only wants to promote Life — with a capital L — for Nature is within each member of each species; and without each member of each species, Nature — with a capital or a small N — would be nonexistent.

This would be only too clear if you were physically experiencing the conditions about which you might be reading. If the world were falling down about your shoulders, you would only too clearly understand that “earlier” you were reacting to an imagined and not a real situation.

[...] If they could be tested mentally in your context, there would be no need for physical human existence.

If such issues could all be mentally worked out on some nonphysical drawing board, again, the great challenge of physical existence would be neither necessary nor meaningful. [...]

You could imagine it for example as having a shape, but the shape would not be formed by matter, but by pattern masses; and all the multitudinous portions of it, the shapes on it, would be composed in terms of mass intensity. [...]

[...] The rocket ship would be the inquiring inner self in motion. [...]

[...] The apparent shapes, if you could see them within the electrical system, would seem to appear and disappear as pulses became stronger or weaker. [...]

These personality intensities are themselves formed within ranges that would appear minute, but contain within them, truly, eons of experience. [...]

[...] I said, “If there’s anyone here, give us a sign,” etc.; mentioned my inexperience with physical phenomena and said that ectoplasm would be great if possible. [...] Would the smoke show up more in the dark? [...]

[...] I said I’d try something, without giving any indication of what I would try. [...]

[...] Whether this would have broken trance or not I don’t know, but as a result I saw nothing at this time; but did have the definite extension feeling on hand. [...]

[...] Yesterday told myself that all my energies physical, mental, spiritual and psychic would be released since I was doing what I was supposed to do. [...]

Now: Had Ruburt gone to a doctor or a faith healer when we began our last group of sessions, and then in a matter of a week or so found himself able again to walk with his [typing] table across the kitchen floor, some thirteen or fourteen steps perhaps, where before three were his uncomfortable limit, he might have attributed the improvement to a doctor’s treatment or to a faith healer’s ability — but he would have been impressed. He would have been impressed also with the greater obvious motion of his feet, the feelings of release in the legs now spreading to the back and shoulders.

(Her physical improvements continue in the overall way that Seth said they would. [...]

[...] Without those other species, man as you know him would not exist, not without the continuous cooperation of those species with each other, and their interrelationships with the environment.

When a government is paranoid, it even begins to cut down on the freedom of its own peoples, or to frown upon behavior that in freer times would be quite acceptable. [...]

(To Valerie and Vanessa.) Now, I give you two my greetings and I will toss out, as Ruburt would say, a small goody for you. [...] I would like to tell you that it was a grand life and that you were gladiators, but you were houseboys. [...]

You are all having your own experiences as I said that you would, and they are following the lines of your own development and abilities. [...]

There are also reincarnational relationships, not necessarily with those involved, that had to do with your acquaintanceship with them in this existence, and some- time I will tell you what they are if you do not find out for yourself and I would rather you found out for yourself. [...]

[...] (To Valerie.) And you, as Ruburt would say, were wild on the flute. [...]

This also serves to punish you for the resentment, since by not giving this more positive support, which incidentally is far more effective than you would imagine—you also to some degree help to hold back that which you both want so badly.

I thought I would unravel this little puzzle, though I see from what you say that you had already arrived at some of these conclusions.

[...] You would still like to believe in the importance of suggestion and telepathy, but only when it suits your purposes, and to minimize it in those areas that are somewhat touchy.

A small remark: The resentment of which I spoke earlier caused some overreaction on your part when you would have visited (underlined) your landlady over the dog episode—when a call was sufficient. [...]

[...] If this would be called hallucinatory by psychologists, then of course far more than vision was involved; the massive quality was definitely sensed directly and vividly. [...] Kinetic changes suggest altering of nervous connections, I would suppose. [...]

[...] The meaning of the experience is stated in the final part of the session, so there is no need to go into it here; suffice it to say that the experience had a meaning, was not random but highly selective, and would be listed in our classification as “experiencing a concept.” [...]

[...] If a psychologist wants to say simply: Hallucination, then he would have to admit it was hardly a random thing; but well directed, to a point and for a purpose. [...]

[...] Your own illness did literally terrify him, and he feared that if he faced his true doubts concerning my existence, that he would hurt you.

[...] Had there been a strong or powerful overall threat to Ruburt, I would have discontinued the sessions. [...]

Periods of belief would be followed by periods of skepticism, and the wavering nature makes it most difficult for me to give him the very assurance that he needs. [...]

[...] Though the decision is his, I have never come when I was not wanted, nor would I.

[...] She also was uneasy in that she felt Seth was too harsh at times; she worried about the reception Dr. Instream would give the tape, since Seth spoke in no uncertain terms. I thought that Dr. Instream’s reception would be perfectly fine, and that in this tape Seth, and Jane, had made their points just as they wanted to.

[...] Jane then decided to hold a session, and said she thought it would be brief.

Now I would be number six self, so to speak, according to Dunne. According to Priestley however, at this point in his theory, I would simply be that life force, or part of it, with no individuality. [...] Nevertheless I would be a number six self. [...]

[...] Peggy said a large part of the seminar was devoted to discussing methods by which it would be determined which individuals would be able to take part in various programs. Their capabilities, intellectual, financial, physical, etc., would have to be determined.)

Priestley’s theories, although he would not use them in this way, could be used to give some insight along these directions. But because Priestley stopped with time three, you would have to pick up Dunne’s, until Dunne himself finally goes wrong.

[...] He is quite sure he hasn’t had any other experience like it, and believes that if he hadn’t been somewhat familiar with these sessions that this one too would have escaped his notice; that is, he would not have followed it through.

[...] The playout wasn’t literal, Jane said, “So I don’t think most people would have made the connections. But I picked up that Seth would go into those dreams tonight, and I asked that he give the best information that he could.”

[...] [They amount to much less than I’d figured on, incidentally—including estimated payments for 1979 —so one would expect me to respond to that—but I haven’t yet.

[...] Pendulum tells me the side bothers because I’m not working on Mass Reality, which will get us money, whereas Through My Eyes is a less-certain project, would take longer, and the time I spend on it is time lost on Mass Reality. [...]

[...] We’d slept this afternoon from 2:30 until 6. I’d hoped I would feel better with the rest, which I seemed to crave, but it hadn’t helped. [...]

But though you met both the present Dick and Loren, neither of you knew what your relationship would be in this life. [...] That is, because you imagined that he would be a contemporary in age, you saw him on a bicycle, a child’s method of transportation, but because he was born earlier the vehicle carries him past.

[...] Before laying down she had instructed her subconscious to inform her as to whether we would have witnesses, but upon arising she still had no answer. [...]

I would like here to discuss a fact about which we have spoken briefly in the past; that is, that the inner world cannot be examined with the outer senses, that indeed the main purpose of the outer senses is the interpretation of the outer or camouflage existence.

[...] We discussed various alternatives, finally deciding that Jane would sleep for at least half an hour before a session whether witnesses were due or not, and whether they were present or not. [...]

[...] Use of this fifth sense would enable you to enter into your friend. [...]

[...] Without the use of this sense, however, no man would ever come close to understanding another.” [...]

[...] It would help if you simply remind him of this when such occasions arise... for this would be enough now to let him make a suitable adjustment at any given occasion. [...]

They exist in actuality, but not in a form with which ordinarily you would be familiar. [...]

The personality itself therefore, as a mental action, is responsible for the point or midplane, for without the personality or mental act, this particular reference point or midplane would have no meaning.

[...] If their reference points were the same, they would collide.

[...] Seth stated recently that the Seth material begins when he announced his presence to us by name, and this would be in the 4th session. [...]

(Following a discussion of last week’s session, Theodore M. stated he wasn’t sure he would acknowledge his inner secrets to himself, much less reveal them in class.)

([Theodore M:] “How far would the ego accept it and wouldn’t it be dangerous?”)

Now you may think that Joan Grant has formed a far more splendid reality than you have, and yet none of you would live in her shoes for an hour. [...]

[...] There are people that you would not share your living room with who do not consider themselves avant-garde or open-minded, who do not understand concepts and are not equipped to intellectualize, but people who feel their own feelings with exaltation and joy and recognize their own identities because of this, and who are, therefore, open to the feelings of others and able to relate to them. [...]

Now I would not force you into any state of awareness, far be it from me. [...] Now bear with me for a few moments, realizing as you do so that there is in reality no distinction between the atoms and molecules within your precious bodies and the atoms and molecules that fly about the room quite innocently and free; realizing also that there is great space between the atoms and molecules within your body, and that if some very small person were flying through they would find your bodies as large as a galaxy; realizing also that the skin that seems so solid to you is very open, indeed, and does not separate you so much from the universe, as it connects you with the universe; and that there is little division between the atoms and molecules in those knees and those legs and the atoms and molecules that form the floor upon which the legs and knees seem to rest. [...]

[...] It will help all of you if you imagine it as a platform and see yourselves throwing all your fears off one by one, and it would help if you do this before you begin working on anyone else. [...]

[...] Even in the body it seems to you that you need physical hands to manipulate reels, to change what you see when a thought would suffice. [...]

[...] You are doing well, in your terms, practically speaking, but I would like to see some more experience that is not so physically directed. [...]

(As we lay in bed after last Monday’s session, Jane told me: “I’ve got it — from Seth, I think: A really complete astrological chart would have to include not only the time of your birth, but that of your death.” Which would pose a few obstacles, I thought as I fell asleep. …

Of course, these ideas would apply to any form of life as we ordinarily think of that quality. They would be a commonplace in the animal world, for instance; witness the quick deaths of certain newborn kittens in a litter (as Jane and I have); or consider the puppy in an animal shelter, or pound, certain to be put to death in a few days if no one gives it a home. [...]

[...] Instead, the fetus experiences another level: physical life at a different scale, that in your terms would apply to the distant past.

In, I repeat, conventional ideas of evolution,¹ this would be a period in which your kind of consciousness experimented with a water environment, with fins instead of lungs. [...]